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Subject: Maw Slayer Tournament

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OK, guys time to start thinking about trying the slayer tournament again. What I'm gonna do is throw some ideas out here have you guys kick them around over the weekend while I'm away and then get busy setting it up next week. The last tournament failed because people did not show up for the matches. There were a couple problems in the setup that contributed to this. First I started sign-ups here and then tried to move to another site. This time sign-ups and everything will be on these forums here . Take a look at them if you have any ideas or suggestions post them. I would like to put some sort of a front page up for the forums that contains info and links to other pages. One page I would like is a bracket like they do for the NCAA Basketball tournament, so we can track the players progress thru the tournament.

Another thing was that I didn't get contact info for all the players. I think I'm going to require e-mail validation for registration so I know I can reach players to give them reminders. This will also make it easier for teammates to contact each other to practice. X-fire is not good enough because a lot of players have an account but never login.

I have had several suggestiions about the format the tournament should be done in and here are the possiblilities:

{A} Straight 1 vs. 1 single elimination. Two players have a match against each other. The victor advances the loser is eliminated.

{B} 1 v 1 Double elimination If you lose your match you play in a losing bracket. If you lose again your out. Gives players a second chance but a lot more matches will be played.

{C} Team 2v2 then 1v1 Your paired with another player for the first few rounds, teams that win will be split into individual 1v1 matches until one player is victor. This is how we tried to do the last one. Less matches means tourney goes quicker.

{D} World Cup style Players put into groups of four. You play a match against each player in your group(3 matches). The two players with the most wins/kills in each group advance to the elimination rounds.

{E} Free for All Play a series of 4 person FFA matches. The player who wins advances to the next FFA match.

{F} What ever else you guys can dream up.


Start kicking around ideas in this thread for how we are going to do this. I'm going to need people to help schedule and admin matches. I'm also looking for people who know how to film matches, I want to record the matches and maybe post links in here so we can see some of the action.

  • 01.27.2006 4:00 PM PDT
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I told another WRX buddy about this tourney, and we'd like to sign up as a team. He feels pretty strongly against playing FFA or playing against me. We're good buds, and we'd like to stay on the same team, if at all possible, throughout the tourney.

If I wasn't so busy working full time and taking 14 credits this semester, I'd like to help you out Igg. Oh well, my own stupid fault for wanting to further my education I guess. What was I thinking?!

  • 01.27.2006 5:31 PM PDT
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Alright, so I'm finishing up my first semester exams now. And I'll have even more time to contend with the making of a tournament. Again, if you need any assistance at all Iggwilv I'll be there to help out. Oh and yes, I still have a team sorting program I made and a cool Pong game called Gnop (which is a story for another time)

So I really think a FFA style tourney would work better this time. Perhaps, a 1v1 bracket where if you lose a game you go into the loser's bracket, and you have to beat a large amount of players to come back up. As well, we might be able to implement a "wild card" spot given the wonders of "7e|-| proGra/\/\./\/\me|^ 5ki1z""

Anyways...it might be a fun thing to do, you know the underdog who comes back up from the bottom to win the tourney and such. Hey just because there's a structure who says we can't mix it up a bit?

Alright, so if you need anything just send me an email. I might not be on X-fire for a while though, cause I still have 2 exams coming up on Tues. But after that I should be fine for quite some time.

  • 01.27.2006 6:25 PM PDT
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FFA matches should be played in my opinion.

  • 01.27.2006 8:32 PM PDT
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They should have more of these

  • 01.27.2006 8:42 PM PDT
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I would either do the 1v1 double elimination or the 2v2 but the final 4 players go 1v1 but don't make the ppl who where on teams face each other to get into the championship. And as far as needing help for this it depends on the time cause i work 2nd shift during the week but i have the weekends off...so anytime from around 8 am to 1:30pm EST during the week or any time after 11:30pm during the week also. Or if u want i can help pretty much any time during the weekend, that is if i ain't got anything planned, which im sure i can notify u if needed. I just really think its cool somone is trying to do something with the pc halo!!

  • 01.27.2006 9:07 PM PDT
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I personally like option C. That's definetly the best way I think.

  • 01.28.2006 1:01 PM PDT
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C mixed with B

its always nice to fairly choose a 2nd place. (if hes referring to what i think he is i was the one who came up with plan B ^_^)

if you need that ladder changed in any way i can fix it. if theres no third place it takes less than half the matches than if you did do a third place

  • 01.28.2006 10:58 PM PDT
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Are you guys going to be taking any precausitions to stop hacking?

There are a few options... you can download FRAPS or GAMECAM for free... which can record gameplay and prove you dont hack.

You can also download a user-made antihack at www.haloantihack.net

With the new aimbot out... and the prevalent use of wires and bluewalls I think something like this would be needed in any tourney.

~BeNjA

  • 01.29.2006 9:29 AM PDT
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We're thinking about using a devcam to watch the game happening from afar. Having each player record the game with a video recording program like Fraps is a good idea...but, getting each player a full version of the software is not only illegal, but the fact is, many people's computers are already stretched when it come sto playing the game. and for some people, having to record the game while playing will put too much strain on their comp. to play properly. I think by using one of bitterbanana's amazing mods such as the Halo flycam, or even using the standard Halo devcam that came with the game, we would be able to monitor the games without disrupting gameplay. It's a much simpler solution.

  • 01.29.2006 5:52 PM PDT
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I think in terms of online tournaments, you are almost forced to host FFA rounds due to dismal turnout rates. The fact is, people don't remember online tournaments like these, because there is no physical location you have to travel to, there's no signup fee, there's nothing to gain or loose... People just don't remember. The benefit of making the tourney FFA is that no-shows don't affect the tournament in anay way. You simply disqualify anybody who doesn't show up and move on. I ran a small (but successful) tournament over the weekend. You can read the rules I used here.

If you decide to go with teams, you should seriously consider allowing people to sign up AS teams. There are two reasons for this. First, consider what you are hosting. A tournament. This is a series of tests designed to see which team is the best. You can't very well accomplish this goal if you mix up the players randomly. Second, if people sign up as teams, it makes sense to me that they would be twice as likely to show up as a team, thus reducing your number of no-shows.

Talk to me on Xfire one of these days if you need to bounce ideas or want some help.

  • 01.29.2006 9:12 PM PDT

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OK it looks like were going to be doing FFA matches. Now how many players per match should we use 4, 6, 8... more? And how should we schedule the matches? I was thinking of setting a schedule of times during the week and having people signup for the one they can attend. Or just having scheduled matches during the week and who ever shows up plays.

On the issue of hacking. Fraps isn't a good solution because the free version only lets you do 30sec clips. I'm NOT handing out registered versions of the software, and it cut my FPS by two thirds when I used it.

Also the haloantihack.net site is DOWN. It has been down for two weeks. If anybody knows what happened to it I would love to know.

  • 01.30.2006 7:46 AM PDT
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I think you should schedule times and have poeple pick which ones they can attend.

  • 01.30.2006 9:36 AM PDT
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dang that means if my old teammate plays again ill have to face him in ffa >_< lol

  • 01.31.2006 12:00 AM PDT

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Unfortunately, my Dungeons & Dragons/ Role-playing addiction is back in full force. It demands to be fed and I am powerless against it. I will be taking a break from Halo to finish up some games I have wanted to finish. I will not have the time nor the desire to run a tournament. However, if someone else wants to take up this endeavor, I will make both the server and the forums available to them to help organize and run the tourney. Feel free to send me a PM or Xfire if you want to do that. For the next month I will be trudging thru the frozen wasteland of Icewind Dale or crawling through the depths of the Temple of Elemental Evil vanquishing evil whereever I see it.

  • 02.01.2006 7:51 PM PDT
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DOH! Not look, you've gone and screwed yourself forever Iggwilv

*waves goodbye to Iggwilv*

lol, j/k

Anyways, I would TRY and run it. I'll see by the beggining of next week. I'm a little too busy right this instant but by Next Friday I should have a fairly clear schedule for several months, so I could at least try and organise something together.

jman571: only time will tell...

  • 02.01.2006 8:49 PM PDT
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i can help if you want jman

  • 02.03.2006 12:59 PM PDT