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Subject: I need your help guys: Hostbanned for no reason (honestly)

- iFRaNcHisEd

Alright I'll try to make this quick for your sake. I noticed about a month ago I wasn't pulling host. So I was patient I waited 2 weeks; didn't pull host once, I checked theater to make sure. I read on these forums that Bungie doesn't send you a message informing you that you've been hostbanned, the only way to tell is to search Team Doubles with two of your own accounts and if your console has been hostbanned you will not be able to find a match. Sure enough after searching 30 minutes, no match. Let me first say I have been banned for no reason 2 other times but since those were temporary I didn't care. I play a lot of Team Snipers and when you're running 50 high you get a lot of gamers from Europe, Australia, Mexico, etc and it's annoying to constantly play on their yellow bar hosts. When I pulled host, it was always full green bar for everyone. I have never gotten a complaint about my host, not once. If anything I used to get a lot of people telling me how much they liked playing on my host. My ping on average is 14-15ms with non-existant jitter. You cannot get much better than that. I didn't pull host all the time either; maybe every 10-15 games or so. I have never cheated I despise cheaters. I have never hostbooted, bridged host, or played with anyone who manipulates the connection. I don't even have any cheaters on my list. My goal is to get an employee from Bungie to investigate my game history and tell me why this might have happened. But since that probably won't happen I am turning to the community for help.

  • 05.15.2011 1:12 AM PDT

Well you have probably done something wrong, you won't get banned for nothing...

  • 05.15.2011 1:31 AM PDT

- iFRaNcHisEd

about a year ago, like an idiot, I boosted in the rocket race playlist. And I paid for it; I was banned for 2 weeks. I have been banned a total of 3 times, not including this recent hostban. And that boosting ban was the only legitimate ban I have recieved. I have read the bungie.net/ban page twice I haven't done anything to merit a hostban. Of couse I have emailed Bungie numerous times asking for explanations but never a reply.

  • 05.15.2011 2:05 AM PDT

Halo 3 is such a good game. Digitalph33r, Lemur Kootra, Anoj... Make videos of Halo again... Halo made you guys.

Someone else could have freeked with the connection and they made a mistake of the source. Or something bad happend once and bungie are being harsh.

Also, the hostban might not be permenant.

Otherwise, make sure your emailing the correct bungie email adress

  • 05.15.2011 2:11 AM PDT

- iFRaNcHisEd

I emailed bnetbugs@bungie.com The autoresponse told me I had reached the correct address. Yeah I'm hoping it isn't permenant. And people hostboot and bridge host a lot in Team snipers but usually it's obvious who is doing it, so I'm thinking Bungie wouldn't make such a mistake. But who knows, you could be right. It's frustrating because I see the same cheaters on a weekly basis go unbanned. And to be innocent sucks that much more when I see all these kids cheating continuously.

  • 05.15.2011 2:21 AM PDT
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Posted by: Boss FRaNcHisEd
I emailed bnetbugs@bungie.com The autoresponse told me I had reached the correct address. Yeah I'm hoping it isn't permenant. And people hostboot and bridge host a lot in Team snipers but usually it's obvious who is doing it, so I'm thinking Bungie wouldn't make such a mistake. But who knows, you could be right. It's frustrating because I see the same cheaters on a weekly basis go unbanned. And to be innocent sucks that much more when I see all these kids cheating continuously.



I used to have a friend who bridged host and he said it is usually a year and a half - two years.


The reason you will have been host banned is because your host will not have been good enough to support the players in the game. Maybe you have played Australians as this will make them have a bad connection (due to being far away) and will count against you giving you a ban.

  • 05.15.2011 5:02 AM PDT

- iFRaNcHisEd

Anyone know a Bungie employee I might be able to recommend this thread to?

  • 05.15.2011 3:23 PM PDT
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This is my alt for when I know I'll get banned again :P

Youtube me

uHaZeD?

Not sure about this but if you play games where a lot of people are hit/held redbar, doesn't it ruin your hostrecord? And if your hostrecord is ruined that would explain why you don't pull host - maybe even a hostban.

Don't quote me on this, it's just a theory.

  • 05.15.2011 3:29 PM PDT

Maybe it's for quitting too many games when you were host?

  • 05.15.2011 6:19 PM PDT
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Quit whining about host. If you have to go back into theater to make sure you weren't host then your connection can't have been that bad.

  • 05.15.2011 9:17 PM PDT

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Host bans are permanent, and linked to the profile that received the ban, as well as the console.


You're SOL.

  • 05.15.2011 9:28 PM PDT

- iFRaNcHisEd

I was sure it wasn't my host when I was checking theater. I was checking anyway to be certain. Try running snipes 50 high and playing on foreign host all the time you forget what good connection feels like. If the ban hammer is so accurate I would challenge anyone reading this to search my game history and tell me what I did to deserve this. Because I'd put money on the odds against an employee at Bungie finding one.. And no my host was always clean for me I never quit out on it. If anyone decides to check my main GT is IFRANCHISED

[Edited on 05.16.2011 12:27 AM PDT]

  • 05.16.2011 12:16 AM PDT

- iFRaNcHisEd

@st3ven9640 That's the whole point. Something that is permanent should be determined with absolute certainty not carelessly misjudged. By saying that I'm sure poor judgment is not a normal or consistant trend for the people responsible for bans. Which is why I believe this case should be looked at. I know you will say, "too bad kid bungie doesn't care enough to appeal bans." As it clearly states on their ban page. But I do not want to be so quick to believe Bungie is just another soulless apathetic corporation. I've heard all they do when you're hostbanned is add you to an unreliable connection list. Seems pretty simple. Could I not just as easily be removed?

  • 05.16.2011 12:47 AM PDT

- iFRaNcHisEd

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1298037517.png

That was the speed test from 30 seconds ago

[Edited on 05.16.2011 1:04 AM PDT]

  • 05.16.2011 1:03 AM PDT

- iFRaNcHisEd

never.. had the same isp for the 10 years I've lived in this house. In fact they keep increasing the bandwidth. I should also say that they keep telling us they are increasing the bandwidth but it's been the same ul/dl for over a year

[Edited on 05.16.2011 1:07 AM PDT]

  • 05.16.2011 1:05 AM PDT

- iFRaNcHisEd

I used to be really good at telling when I pulled host, because I wouldn't get shot through walls and I didn't get bloodshots. That kind of connection is great to play on, there's no reason I'd quit out on it.

Edit: With 159 quits I'm sure I have quit out on my host before. Maybe even more than once. But excessive quits on my host would be highly unlikely. If you saw me play on my host you would probably rule that theory out immediately haha.

[Edited on 05.16.2011 1:20 AM PDT]

  • 05.16.2011 1:14 AM PDT
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If you were playing on a bad foreign host then you wouldn't even need to check in theater as it would be blatantly obvious you're not host after your first kill.

If you still needed to make sure then your connection must have been decent.

Anyway, why do you care about being hostbanned if you only get host every 10-15 games? That's 1 out of every 12 games or so that will possibly be on a bad host, but still not definite.

Get over it. Any connection in green is good enough.

  • 05.16.2011 1:25 AM PDT

Host ban... You've probably been bridging host. Either that or your host is terrible.

  • 05.16.2011 1:32 AM PDT

- iFRaNcHisEd

@Ubert Humperdink The only reason why you're insisting on questioning my case is because it's not relatable to you. If this happened to you, chances are you'd be on here doing the same thing. I didnt check theater after every single game when it was completely obvious it wasn't my host. Every once in a while I was connecting well to the host and it was mostly clear, I was thinking maybe my host isn't as good as it used to be. Since I used to connect directly to my modem and now I connect to my router. There's a slight difference in response times.

[Edited on 05.16.2011 1:39 AM PDT]

  • 05.16.2011 1:38 AM PDT

It would be a simple as searching a database, yes. It becomes complicated when they have numerous requests like this so they must allocate time to looking into each case.

Just trade Xbox' with a friend who doesn't play Halo if you care that much.

I wish you could appeal but if you could people would find some way to take advantage of *that* system and we'd have much worse network conditions than we already do.

I've been in the same situation so I understand what you're dealing with. It sucks. But it's makes any actual cheating I do in the future justified. :) I might as well do something to actually deserve the ban next time.

Same thing happened to xParanoiaa (or something like that, on these forums.) He didn't deserve it either.

[Edited on 05.16.2011 1:58 AM PDT]

  • 05.16.2011 1:40 AM PDT

- iFRaNcHisEd

@MLG Bea Arthur yeah I realize why the rule exists thanks for sticking with this thread, I appreciate the productive responses. It's a good idea with the xbox trade, but I have taken apart my xbox and replaced the disc drive voiding the warranty. My xbox is incredibly dated and the CD drive motor had stopped working. Other than that, I know it might sound nerdish, but I've worked too hard on accumulating 50s in all playlists and I have too much history with this GT to simply let it die and start over from scratch.

  • 05.16.2011 1:50 AM PDT

- iFRaNcHisEd

@Dailure: You know what rhymes with Dailure?...Failure. Which is how I would describe your comment; and probably what you received in elementary english.

  • 05.16.2011 1:56 AM PDT

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