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Subject: Who was the WORST Spartan?

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All characters who are not actually part of the story line, are garbage. Anyone who says otherwise has obviously not read the books. Anyone who says they have read the books, but still says the game canon overrides the story, is a liar. Obviously those people are easily manipulated. The moment someone says, "up is down", these people are like, "Oh, you must be right". Besides, if they're all wrong, why is the Bungie logo on the back of all the books? You guys are being spoon fed by the new owners of the Halo title.

  • 05.21.2011 8:43 PM PDT

Vengeance only leads to an ongoing cycle of hatred.

I don't really think there is a worst Spartan. The only Spartan that comes to mind is S-1337 in Odd One Out, but that wasn't even canon, so yeah...

  • 05.21.2011 8:50 PM PDT


Posted by: xecnalxes117
Posted by: OrderedComa

I'm a woman, and I don't find women attractive, I don't swing that way at all, bleck >_<
So no, I do not find Kat "hot" in the slightest, I just think accents are cool.

And no, Kat really does not look like a man, I think you need to get out more buddy if you can't tell the difference between a woman with short hair and a man.
You say that like I said straight up, "I can't tell the difference between a man & a woman". Trust me, my tan is darker than yours, unless you're black.


Well it sounded like you didn't know I was female, and I was clarifying that I was, in case you didn't know, and I was saying that I did not find Kat at all hot because I'm not gey.
I'll bet it is, I never really go outside, so I'm whiter than mayonaise :P

  • 05.21.2011 8:53 PM PDT


Posted by: xecnalxes117
All characters who are not actually part of the story line, are garbage. Anyone who says otherwise has obviously not read the books. Anyone who says they have read the books, but still says the game canon overrides the story, is a liar. Obviously those people are easily manipulated. The moment someone says, "up is down", these people are like, "Oh, you must be right". Besides, if they're all wrong, why is the Bungie logo on the back of all the books? You guys are being spoon fed by the new owners of the Halo title.


Um that canon ranking has been around for quite a while now bro and was instituted by Bungie themselves. They're the ones who said that the games are the highest source of canon in the Halo story, not Microsof, not 343i, but Bungie.

  • 05.21.2011 8:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: Twisted107
i think shane from ghosts of onyx.

who did you get shane. He was a boss. There were only three spartans left and they were completely surrounded and he got shot with a needle rifle and before he died he threw a grenade killing the elite

  • 05.21.2011 9:09 PM PDT
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I think that the worst Spartan has to be Daisy. Her shields were at full charge, then three needler projectiles pierced through her armor and eventually killed her. She sacrificed her life just so that one Marine could get off of the planet who eventually died in the end of the movie

  • 05.21.2011 9:12 PM PDT

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  • 05.21.2011 9:13 PM PDT

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  • 05.21.2011 9:14 PM PDT
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Posted by: Shade8893
Kurt: I know he wanted to be just like his S-III's, but come on... He should've put on his MJOLNIR armour instead of the crappy SPI.

it was more for moral than to look like his students

  • 05.21.2011 9:33 PM PDT

Posted by: Justice One Duo
Posted by: jack0fhearts

When he is piloting the Pelican, leaves the hatch open, they are easily attacked by Banshees when the hatch is open...

In my opinion, the events that led up to his death could have easily been prevented, had he closed the hatch.

Hence, "I Can't Close the Hatch."


Really, now that I think about it, the events after his death would've been a hell of alot different, had he closed that one hatch.

Damn you, Carter. Damn you to hell.

  • 05.21.2011 9:41 PM PDT


Posted by: Justice One Duo
Posted by: Justice One Duo
Posted by: jack0fhearts

When he is piloting the Pelican, leaves the hatch open, they are easily attacked by Banshees when the hatch is open...

In my opinion, the events that led up to his death could have easily been prevented, had he closed the hatch.

Hence, "I Can't Close the Hatch."


Really, now that I think about it, the events after his death would've been a hell of alot different, had he closed that one hatch.

Damn you, Carter. Damn you to hell.


Wouldn't have made much of a difference, if he left it up they'd have had no way to shoot back at the enemy pursuing them, Emile wouldn't have taken those two Banshees out.

  • 05.22.2011 9:53 AM PDT

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Kat definitely. Even the makers of the game hated her, she gets the lamest death out all the members of Noble Team. She also sucks in combat (but they all do except Jorge who makes a nice big meat shield) and has the dumbest specialty.

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  • 05.22.2011 12:18 PM PDT

Our big green style, cannot be defeated!
-Sgt. A.J. Johnson - Halo 2 - Metropolis

I already answered someone with this same theory. So play at the spire, take the falcon, & fly it through the barrier. Does it get knocked out? No. The clip where it gets knocked out in the campaign is a cut scene thing only. The same way in the cut scene with the rookie fighting (even on legendary) he gets shot who knows how many times, & survives, until the last part. Or how you can jump, but in a cut scene, you can do flips & crap.

  • 05.23.2011 3:40 AM PDT

Our big green style, cannot be defeated!
-Sgt. A.J. Johnson - Halo 2 - Metropolis

People talking about how Kat didn't have her helmet on properly, why is it that when she gets shot in the face & lifts up her neck, her helmet is on properly? Exactly, so stop making up some bull theories.

  • 05.23.2011 3:42 AM PDT

Our big green style, cannot be defeated!
-Sgt. A.J. Johnson - Halo 2 - Metropolis

The best Spartan by far,to me was Kurt. Besides Master Chief. That's why I have his service tag on my Reach & Halo 3 account. So everyone should put the tag of their actually favorite Spartan. If you haven't read the books, they you won't even know why you're putting that tag.

  • 05.23.2011 3:49 AM PDT

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Posted by: xecnalxes117
I already answered someone with this same theory. So play at the spire, take the falcon, & fly it through the barrier. Does it get knocked out? No. The clip where it gets knocked out in the campaign is a cut scene thing only. The same way in the cut scene with the rookie fighting (even on legendary) he gets shot who knows how many times, & survives, until the last part. Or how you can jump, but in a cut scene, you can do flips & crap.


You said it yourself, it's a cutscene. Cutscenes bear accuracy canon wise (aka The Brute Chieftain on ODST doing a number on the squad on his own or the Falcon getting EMP'd by the shield)

If this was all implemented on the games, it would make for an incredibly unbalanced gameplay.

  • 05.23.2011 3:55 AM PDT

Our big green style, cannot be defeated!
-Sgt. A.J. Johnson - Halo 2 - Metropolis

I meant Noble 6 not the rookie. Oops

  • 05.23.2011 4:43 AM PDT
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Posted by: krnlcheese
I think that the worst Spartan has to be Daisy. Her shields were at full charge, then three needler projectiles pierced through her armor and eventually killed her. She sacrificed her life just so that one Marine could get off of the planet who eventually died in the end of the movie


She had no energy shields

  • 05.23.2011 7:50 AM PDT

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Posted by: Omanisat
1337. But he did kill th big Brute-Kong thing.

  • 05.23.2011 2:26 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

1337 Didn't kill Pluton, Pluton was rocketed towards a Halo by Mama.

  • 05.23.2011 2:29 PM PDT

I would have to go with...

Master chief (Fan base wise.)

Kat (Skill wise.)

  • 05.23.2011 2:36 PM PDT

About me: I am a vicious wolf of a man.

But really am sweet at heart. =)

Kat, she is the reason why everyone died.

Her "rush in and attack everything strategy" Destroyed an entire Army Corps and her plan to attack the super carrier killed Jorge.


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  • 05.23.2011 2:54 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

Posted by: Gottalovec4
Kat, she is the reason why everyone died.

Her "rush in and attack everything strategy" Destroyed an entire Army Corps and her plan to attack the super carrier killed Jorge.


She didn't plan the attack on Tip Of The Spear, she was given command of the Recon operation in Nightfall, and once they found out the Covenant force, they engaged them as the Winter Contingency dictated.

It's also not her fault that the timer for the bomb got shot, leaving Jorge to stay behind on the Corvette.

  • 05.23.2011 4:30 PM PDT

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Posted by: Gottalovec4
Kat, she is the reason why everyone died.

Her "rush in and attack everything strategy" Destroyed an entire Army Corps and her plan to attack the super carrier killed Jorge.

She didn't plan that UNSC Zerg rush and Jorge was killed because he prematurely left the Sabre and didn't have a re-entry pack.

  • 05.23.2011 4:31 PM PDT


Posted by: Gottalovec4
Kat, she is the reason why everyone died.

Her "rush in and attack everything strategy" Destroyed an entire Army Corps and her plan to attack the super carrier killed Jorge.


Kat had no control, or anything similar, over the planning of Tip of Spear, a Spartan does not really have that kind of authority. And how do you know the entire division of Warthogs and accompanying forces were completely destroyed? We don't stick around there so we don't see what happens, how do you know they didn't win?

And as for the Supercarrier thing, how the hell is it Kat's fault Jorge died? It's not like she sabotaged the timer on the Slipspace drive or anything like that, nor did she take a weapon to it. Using your logic Fred must be equally as bad since his plan to throw a nuke up a Covenant ship's grav lift got Josh killed.

  • 05.23.2011 4:55 PM PDT