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Subject: Why didn't the UNSC use chemical weapons?

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Posted by: Omanisat
Unless the shield is going to come with it's own filter, all they are going to do is inhale a bubble of contaminated air. And a nerve agent will most certainly kill you if it gets in through your eyes.

And the Covenant don't learn anything. After all the times Cortana hacked their systems you'd think they would learn to protect their computers better, but the didn't. Their technology is based on the Forerunners and therefore is perfect. To suggest any changes or modification is blasphemy.

No... Not all of it is exactly based on the forerunners. And the things that are aren't as good as the forerunners...
It is blasphemy for them to have AIs we could say.

  • 05.17.2011 8:41 PM PDT

Yes it is. Covenant technology is a crude copy of Forerunner technology they reverse-engineered. The Prophets made them as well as they could, then told the Elites that they were gifts from the gods, and not to be questioned. In the Cole Protocol Truth shows Thel a plasma rifle that has been modified for humans and states that the modifications are blasphemy.

  • 05.17.2011 8:45 PM PDT
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Posted by: Omanisat
Unless the shield is going to come with it's own filter, all they are going to do is inhale a bubble of contaminated air. And a nerve agent will most certainly kill you if it gets in through your eyes.

And the Covenant don't learn anything. After all the times Cortana hacked their systems you'd think they would learn to protect their computers better, but the didn't. Their technology is based on the Forerunners and therefore is perfect. To suggest any changes or modification is blasphemy.

Giving every Elite a Ranger suit wouldn't be blasphemy. Same goes with giving every other species sealed suits. They didn't learn to protect their computers when Cortana attacked but how much time they actually had to do it. If I remember correctly, Cortana's first attack on a Covenant computer system was on the Truth an Reconciliation. It was pretty much by the end of the war.

Edit: It is true that modifications are blasphemy for them but there are no modifications needed here. As for proteceting computer systems. On the second thought I doupt Covenant can do that well enough.

[Edited on 05.17.2011 8:49 PM PDT]

  • 05.17.2011 8:46 PM PDT

You're going to give every Elite in the Covenant a Ranger rig just in case they humans use chemical weapons against them? So they could look forward to high-ranking Elites wearing inferior armour? The Elite's pride alone would prevent them form reacting to the threat, hell they don't like to use jackal shields, they only do so under orders.

How about when, a month after Cortana hijacked the Ascendant Justice and killed the crew by venting the atmosphere, Fred was able to do the exact same thing to take over Bloodied Spirit. It even states that had it happened to a human ship, they would have immediately changed their protocols to try to prevent it from happening again.

[Edited on 05.17.2011 8:52 PM PDT]

  • 05.17.2011 8:49 PM PDT

"Find where the liar hides, so that I may place my boot between his gums!" - Rtas 'Vadum

Covenant imitation runs deeper than religious reasoning I think. They seem largely incapable of thinking outside the box and innovating.

I mean, they did have ample opportunity to secure NAV data before the Cole Protocol came out. They never caught onto that for quite a while. It also never occurred to them to triangulate Earth's position by detecting ancient radio signals from our past. The list of Covenant incompetence goes on.

The point I am making is that it would not be surprising if they just pumped more soldiers into the frontlines to combat this new threat. That seems to be in line with their naval strategies most of the time.

[Edited on 05.17.2011 8:56 PM PDT]

  • 05.17.2011 8:54 PM PDT

While I agree that chemical weapons would be very effective in land battles, most decisive battles were fought in Space-where nukes are the most effective weapons. I think that chemical weapons were most likely used in many battles but their effects on the battle was nullified when the Covenant eventually came in and glassed the planet

[Edited on 05.18.2011 7:43 PM PDT]

  • 05.17.2011 9:00 PM PDT

I never imagined they would be game changers, but it seems to me that they could have given the UNSC a decisive advantage in ground engagements, especially since most of the time when the Covenant committed to a ground engagement they were looking for something. Spraying that something with a persistent nerve agent could really draw out that process.

  • 05.17.2011 9:03 PM PDT
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I admit. Chemical weapons would have been worth of trying but as bosox said they wouldn't have been a game changer. They could have made ground battles somewhat easier.

P.S. I know when I'm losing an argument. :)

  • 05.17.2011 9:26 PM PDT

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