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Subject: Halo 1 over Halo 2
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What does Halo 1 have over Halo 2. I have a list of things: Campaign overall, weapons are stronger and rocket is more balanced, first person view in passenger, inifinite grenades for multiplayer, throws grenades farther, passenger capabilities on scorpion. Can you think of any other ways?

  • 01.29.2006 6:57 PM PDT
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Actually First Person view in passenger seat was stupid. Too hard to aim. 3rd person was for the best.

  • 01.29.2006 7:27 PM PDT
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Halo 1 is much better than halo 2 for the following reasons (At least, in my oppinion):
-In the halo 1 campaign, I felt as though I was on a mission...The levels felt more "real" and it seemed everything had a purpose, however, with halo 2 I just felt that the storyline was more confusing...for lack of a better word. It just didn't feel the same, it felt unfinished, as did many aspects in halo 2. BTW...Did anyone notice there was no great battle for Earth that was expected of halo 2? It's because when M$ gained Bungie, they set a deadline and Bungie had to comply, so they were forced into rushing it (at least that's the best of my understanding, please correct me if I'm wrong, although I'm sure it didn't help that we were screaming for a release date either).
-The multiplayer of halo 1 I feel is many many times better than halo 2s. First of all, the physics of halo 1 just feel much smoother and seem easier to deal with than the jumpy almost glitchy physics of halo 2. Id rather have to lead the target a bit than to glitch through someone and have them melee me from behind after i get bluescreened. Also, The weapons had a set respawn in halo 1, and both teams had an equal chance of setting up for the next powerup/weapon respawn. However, in halo 2, you either have to wait untill someone drops the powerup/weapon or uses it up. It's much harder and much more random to set up for the next weapon and takes out an entire skill factor out of halo. The spawn points of halo 1 were much better, you could control where you could spawn or not spawn your teammate, and many times you could find where the enemy was going to spawn and set up accordingly. Again, much of that skill factor was taken out of halo 2.
-In halo 1, unless both boxes were modded and using the same mods (with the exception of modded box names and glass walls) there was no cheating with mods. However in halo 2, there is the massive cheating over XBL all the time. I know that there is something being done about it, and Bungie is trying their hardest and doint what they can do, but it's not enough, and unfortuneately probably never will be. Sure there were many glitches in halo 1, but they weren't as exploitable. Infact, many of the glitches such as backpack reloading and double meleeing are almost just as natural as if someone had put them in the game on purpose.

I'm not in any way saying that halo 2 is a bad game and everyone should stop playing it, infact I think that halo 2 is better than just about everygame with the exception of halo 1. It's just that I hope that Bungie takes more time with halo 3 (if it's going to be made, which I'm nearly positive it will be) and makes it into a game unlike halo 2 and more of a game that incorporates more of a feel like that of halo 1. Id rather have to wait a couple more months/years than to have a rushed game like halo 2 be made again.

  • 01.29.2006 7:42 PM PDT
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i totally agree... Halo 1 was so much better, especially in online gameplay...

1st... they took away the pistol... which in my opinion made Halo revolutionize online gameplay... now.. without the pistol... Halo 2 feels like a better Unreal, TimeSlitter, Doom.. or whatever.. and agreed Halo 2 is good and better than the games i just mentioned.. its just not the same as Halo 1.

2nd... what the hell is with the jumping down from mountains and buildings.. without any injury...

3rd... everyone regenerates to full shield (no health packs.. or less aggressive game play when injured)

4th... its a massacre... there is no sizing up your man as much, and out pistoling.. now its dual wield and hold the triggers.

5th... majority of Halo 2 maps are radared... cheezy

6th... maps aren't as good... they took a few Halo 1 maps and chopped it up.

7th... they should re-release Halo 1 for Xbox Live!!!!!!!!!!

  • 01.29.2006 9:15 PM PDT
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More balanced (including pistol), Halo 1 has less auto-aim/magnetism, ect... atmosphere is better, higher-resolution, therefor better graphics, great story, challenging (not unfair), great levels, grenades get thrown farther, no punch-lunge, punchind does damage, infinite grenades, better physics, more fun phisics, better warthog, better dialogue, better sound quality, health/fall damage...

[Edited on 1/31/2006]

  • 01.31.2006 8:12 AM PDT
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I thought Halo was wayy better than Halo 2. First off it's original. In the second one you just kinda do the same routine crap. Kill covenant. Kill flood. Stop Halo from firing. Although on Halo after you finish The Library the levels sorta go backwards which kinda makes it unoriginal. The weapons on Halo are way more powerful. Look at the shotgun (my favorite weapon next to the pistol) Way farther range, more powerful, reloads faster, more rounds. The only thing that Halo 2 beats Halo on in my opinion is the graphics are a little better but I love the way the flood look on Halo. They look scary on Halo and on Halo 2 they kinda look like walking feces. They definately should make Halo X-box live.

  • 01.31.2006 6:08 PM PDT
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you cannot see sence halo 2 is waaaaaaaay better!

  • 02.01.2006 6:57 AM PDT
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As I have previously said before a while ago......

This forum is for HALO 1 DISCUSSION ONLY, NOT Halo 2 bashing.

Go to halo2sucks.com and express your opinion there.

[Edited on 2/1/2006]

  • 02.01.2006 12:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: TheVoiceofReason
As I have previously said before a while ago......

This forum is for HALO 1 DISCUSSION ONLY, NOT Halo 2 bashing.

Go to halo2sucks.com and express your opinion there.


When was anyone halo 2 bashing? We were merely just stating our oppinions about what game we felt was better.

[Edited on 2/1/2006]

  • 02.01.2006 5:04 PM PDT

Posted by: teddius berrious
you cannot see sence halo 2 is waaaaaaaay better!


They can't see sense? You can't even spell it!

And halo2sucks.com is actually a good forum. You can get a much better quality of debate there than there is here sometimes. Sure, some of them are rabid drooling Halo 1 fanboys, but certainly no more proportionally than there rabid drooling Halo 2 fanboys than there are here.

  • 02.02.2006 3:25 AM PDT
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I have to admit I didn't read all the posts, but I have to get it out.
Things H1 has over H2:
-Physics
-Wider field of view
-weapon balance (overpowered pistol my ass, the rocket, sniper, and shotgun all kill in one hit, plus the plasma rifle rox my sox)
-sensible weapon/powerup respawn times
-more skillful aiming
-unbelievable grenade tricks that are actually useful
-FUN legendary campaign
-you get cool icons when you beat levels
-double melees and backpack reloads
-clearer graphics

  • 02.03.2006 11:50 AM PDT
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i agree halo 1 is much better than halo 2

  • 02.05.2006 6:03 PM PDT
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Posted by: snakeman32
i agree halo 1 is much better than halo 2


I struggle to imagine how you could not think H1 > H2.

  • 02.05.2006 7:37 PM PDT
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I agree with uber.

  • 02.07.2006 2:47 PM PDT
Subject: Has Bungie read these post?
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I agree with everything posted on this forum. Halo 1 is much better than Halo 2. My questions is this. Is Bungie going to listen and make Halo 3 just as good as Halo 1? Are they going take take these comments into consideration?

[Edited on 2/8/2006]

  • 02.08.2006 3:03 PM PDT
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I think Bungie does listen to their fans, with the 1.1 Halo 2 patch as proof. A relatively small portion of the community screamed at the top of their lungs about their greivances with Halo 2, and Bungie created a nice compromise with the patch that probably saved their most dedicated fanbase. That, along with the Team Hardcore playlist proves that Bungie listens. When Halo 3 is made I'm confident Bungie will take many points of the H1 and H2 debate into consideration.

[Edited on 2/10/2006]

  • 02.10.2006 10:40 AM PDT
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Posted by: eMCee
I think Bungie does listen to their fans, with the 1.1 Halo 2 patch as proof. A relatively small portion of the community screamed at the top of their lungs about their greivances with Halo 2, and Bungie created a nice compromise with the patch that probably saved their most dedicated fanbase. That, along with the Team Hardcore playlist proves that Bungie listens. When Halo 3 is made I'm confident Bungie will take many points of the H1 and H2 debate into consideration.

I'm actually surprised that someone can supply with a usefull point of view and with usefull arguments, good job! really. I totally agree with you, Bungie is a very fan related company, why do you think they have made this homepage?
A reason why Bungie messed the campaign up a bit, is because they messed a little up in the planning. They had a playable level at the E3 2003, and then they decided to do it over again wich messed their schedule up a bit. That caused a delay in the production and alot of unfinished things that the "evil" Bungie fans have claimed and punished them fore ever since. The multiplayer has though it's minor balance problems been very good from the beginning.
I really don't want to pick a side right now, I've done that many times before, but I think both games have their pros and cons anyway. I hope that Bungies next project and Halo2 pc will be good, like their former projects always have been.

[Edited on 2/10/2006]

  • 02.10.2006 3:04 PM PDT
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playing halo 1, it feels almost like yer there... playing halo 2, im almost as detached from the game as a person watching another person play a turn-based rpg.

  • 02.10.2006 4:41 PM PDT
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Halo 1 was the best by far, it was so ahead of its time when it came out. Everyone wanted to play it. the campaign is the best, muchy better than halo 2, by far. dont get me wrong, i love both games, i just prefer Halo 1.

  • 02.11.2006 8:18 AM PDT

Why do people in ship mutinies always ask for "better treatment"? I'd ask for a pinball machine, because with all that rocking back and forth, you'd get a lot of free games.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words - "mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.

It is hard to beat the first of anything...

  • 02.11.2006 10:06 AM PDT
Subject: Halo 1 over Halo 2
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List of things I miss (kind of)...

- marines that follow you instead of waypoints that end up getting them killed.
- levels that had objectives instead of just "getting to the end"
- some of that cheesy scripted stuff... like scenes on the poa.

Technically speaking halo2 rips the crap out of halo1, besides the fact that people have personal preferences in what they like in games. Halo1's multiplayer was a real revolution - you could customize everything, there were vehicles and 16 players. But now when I look back on it it seems like a failure to halo2's multiplayer (in my opinion) bungie did a lot more work on it and added in needed things like...

- more maps
- maps designed for certain gametypes
- xbl, oh and bungie also deliberately made modders (note the obvious sarcasm)
- appearance (ok thats not needed but it looks so cool!)

I think its great now that people can discuss this properly without making it a big deal to get themselves recognized, think they can do better than a game thats sold over 7million copies and without thinking that spamming is cool.

  • 02.11.2006 4:29 PM PDT
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Well, if you're the kind of person who thinks that new maps, vehicles, and weapons make a game better (and I honestly mean no offence by this), then halo 2 is the game for you. However, if you're a person who likes consistancy, perfecting, etc, then halo 1 is for you, IMHO.

  • 02.11.2006 9:27 PM PDT
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Two very important good things that shouldn't have been changed from Halo CE:

1.The shotgun
2.The Warthog

1.The shotgun in Halo2 is useless, completely useless. It's 100% unpredictable, and if you don't live in america you will always loose because of latency. But it doesn't work in System Link either so it doesn't make a difference. Peace of -blam!!!-!!
2.The Warthog is boring in Halo2, it doesn't have the unrealistic, but fun and challenging grip on the ground and it doesn't feel heavy and unstoppable, despite it's acceleration.

  • 02.12.2006 10:33 AM PDT

"I pledge to punch all switches, to never shoot where I could use grenades, to admit the existence of no level except Total Carnage, to never use caps lock as my "run" key, and to never, ever, leave a single BoB alive."

2B || !2B - Why don't you look Inside the Machine?

I believe in the fact that there are many things that are great about Halo 1 and Halo 2 that if combined would even boost the gaming experience 10 fold. If it is not boosted enough.

  • 02.12.2006 10:40 AM PDT
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Posted by: TheVoiceofReason
As I have previously said before a while ago......

This forum is for HALO 1 DISCUSSION ONLY, NOT Halo 2 bashing.

Go to halo2sucks.com and express your opinion there.

Yeah, we're discussing why we like Halo 1 better.
So it does belong here. You aren't the "Voice of Reason" you claim to be now, are you?

  • 02.12.2006 12:30 PM PDT

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