Posted by: anton1792
Posted by: ThePredkiller2
Posted by: anton1792
Posted by: ThePredkiller2
I agree with everything in this post except where you stated Skirmisher are stronger than Elites. Elites are 8'6 and weigh over 700 pounds of pure muscle which resembles steel because it is so dense. I highly doubt a Skirmisher could match an Elite. A SPARTAN MAYBE, but I highly doubt it with their shielding systems.
Can you prove anything you just said?
Its in the Beastiarium.
Nothing of what you said is in the Bestiarium.
In the Bestiarium, Elites are 7'2, 318lbs. The steel reference was describing the Brute's muscles when John fist fought them in First Strike.
^ Jackals were nothing serious for Johnson and Byrne, and the gravity of their homeworld is lower than Earth's which means their bodies will be evolved for a lower gravity environment. It does not definitely say anything but it is more evidence against what you are saying.
And this for skirmishers:
Posted by: Backfjre
Okay... everyone is talking about how strong skirmishers must be based on their jump height, but it's being related to human physiology.
Here's an analogy, cats can jump 5 or 6 feet straight up (trust me...I've seen it, it's awesome)
I would never argue that a cat is strong just based on the fact that they can jump high, so bring it up to a larger scale and it really comes down to muscle build and physiology, which is information we just don't have.
I'd say the jackals are perceived pretty well as 'weaker' than most covenant, much like how elites are perceived as far and away the strongest (with that stupid kick thing they do...)
Not to mention different characteristics of the species, they're taller and weigh more but for all we know they're bones are made of a denser material than bone marrow. We don't really have enough information.
Well this post supports my information, and is better thought out than yours, so.... NYYYAAAAAHHHH!!!!
Posted by: Makko Mace
Skirmishers being stronger than Elite's is stupid.
Being incredibly fast and agile would indicate that they are very light but also well muscled, I don't think they would do a lot of heavy lifting, but I have no doubts from the way they move that they are stronger than an person.
Who ever said that thing about cats makes a good point, here I'll relay what I found out about Cougars/Mountain Lions.
Source
Although cougars resemble the domestic cat, they are about the same size as an adult human
This is perfect for our comparison.
Males typically weigh 53 to 100 kilograms (115 to 220 pounds) Halo Wikia states that a Kig-yar wieghs 195 pounds with Skirmishers doubtless weighing slightly more
An exceptional vertical leap of 5.4 m (18 ft) is reported for the cougar.[32]
That seems like something a Skirmisher would be capable of.
Horizontal jumping capability from standing position is suggested anywhere from 6 to 12 m (20 to 40 ft). The cougar can run as fast as 55 to 72 km/h (35 to 45 mi/h),[33] but is best adapted for short, powerful sprints rather than long chases.
This actually sounds quite similar to what Skirmishers are seen doing in Halo Reach.
There is no contest that a Cougar is far stronger than a human being, not an entire league stronger like say a bear, but still no human is going to overpower a Mountain Lion with brute force.
While this comparison is by no means perfect, the physical capabilites of both creatures are pretty similar. While obviously the fact that one is a four legged mammal and the other is a bi pedal vaugley avian-saurian alien, they seem to be pretty comparable in physical feats and size.
Oh also according to the Halo Wikia and apparently Bungie, both Skirmishers and Jackals are of the Kig-yar species. Both originating on Evan with a gravity approx. 0.875(Earth's) G
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[Edited on 05.29.2011 8:09 PM PDT]