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Subject: What made the Halo: Combat Evolved pistol so legendary?

Stevedrich

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  • 05.23.2011 4:44 PM PDT

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halo 2 br with bxr and bxb, and double and quad shots is 10x more legendary.

after that the pistol but way below the halo 2 br for me.
Posted by: Stevedrich
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  • 05.23.2011 4:46 PM PDT

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No recoil, scope, large magazines, and awesomely enhanced bullets that tell your enemies that they are only moments away from death.

  • 05.23.2011 5:02 PM PDT

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@ massive - pretty sad that the BR is your favourite weapon because it was riddled with glitches rich for abuse.

  • 05.23.2011 5:31 PM PDT

Hmmmm, Oh, hello!

Well I think the fact that there was a glitch when you could kill a Hunter in one shot with it as I recall.

[Edited on 05.23.2011 5:48 PM PDT]

  • 05.23.2011 5:47 PM PDT

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Posted by: totallymassive
halo 2 br with bxr and bxb, and double and quad shots is 10x more legendary.

after that the pistol but way below the halo 2 br for me.


You prefer a weapon that ground the skill curve into dust? Not exactly my idea of a good weapon, all it really did was give birth to the spawn trap/fire lane camping that Halo has been known for for the last few titles.

I realize that quite a few people like the simplicity offered by "one weapon to rule them all", but I always found it extremely boring, and not all that challenging.

The CE pistol was laughably powerful for a pistol, but at least it was balanced with it's accompanying sandbox. Sure you could cross-map with it, but you needed to be a good shot to pull it off. It's slow ROF also limited it from being dominant at close ranges.

[Edited on 05.23.2011 6:35 PM PDT]

  • 05.23.2011 6:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: HarakiNinja
Well I think the fact that there was a glitch when you could kill a Hunter in one shot with it as I recall.


u could do that with any weapon

  • 05.23.2011 7:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: HarakiNinja
Well I think the fact that there was a glitch when you could kill a Hunter in one shot with it as I recall.

Not sure if that was a glitch.

  • 05.23.2011 7:49 PM PDT

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Posted by: HarakiNinja
Well I think the fact that there was a glitch when you could kill a Hunter in one shot with it as I recall.

Not sure if that was a glitch.
No one knows at this point, including Bungie. They talked about why the pistol was so powerful on a podcast a few years ago and they narrowed it down to either being a glitch, or doubling it's damage to make it more appealing to players.

  • 05.24.2011 10:14 AM PDT
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3 shot kill. Legendary.

  • 05.24.2011 3:33 PM PDT

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3 shot kill, decent magazine size, automatic, decently accurate, scoped.

All of this dressed up as a Pistol, I think, is what did most of it. In general, pistols in previous games had been delegated to last resort weapons or "use-it-until-you-find-something-good" weapons. Here, the pistol was what you looked for, instead of what you put up with. If it had been a rifle, we'd probably remember it less. Not much less, but some.

  • 05.24.2011 4:26 PM PDT

Posted by: carpet brain
No recoil, scope, large magazines, and awesomely enhanced bullets that tell your enemies that they are only moments away from death.


Nothing more needs to be said.

  • 05.24.2011 6:47 PM PDT

It had a scope but then in halo 2 and halo 3 it wasn't as powerful or scoped.

  • 05.24.2011 6:48 PM PDT
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Yea, that HCE pistol was crazy. Too bad its only got 8 shots and a crazy crossover in reach now, i think that was the closest remake ever, halo 2 pistol M6c had high ROF and low damage,but that was still good considering how fast you could fire it. Halo êpistol just sucked. Low ROF and low damage.. ai...

  • 05.25.2011 8:15 AM PDT

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The 3 shot kill.

  • 05.25.2011 2:48 PM PDT


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Posted by: totallymassive
halo 2 br with bxr and bxb, and double and quad shots is 10x more legendary.

after that the pistol but way below the halo 2 br for me.


You prefer a weapon that ground the skill curve into dust? Not exactly my idea of a good weapon, all it really did was give birth to the spawn trap/fire lane camping that Halo has been known for for the last few titles.

I realize that quite a few people like the simplicity offered by "one weapon to rule them all", but I always found it extremely boring, and not all that challenging.

The CE pistol was laughably powerful for a pistol, but at least it was balanced with it's accompanying sandbox. Sure you could cross-map with it, but you needed to be a good shot to pull it off. It's slow ROF also limited it from being dominant at close ranges.


How did the br lessen the skill gap in halo 2? The br and its button combinations are what made halo 2 the most competitive generation 6 and 7 console shooter. Anyone against bxr,doubleshotting,etc was just too bad to pull them off

  • 05.27.2011 5:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: SweetTRIX

Posted by: totallymassive
halo 2 br with bxr and bxb, and double and quad shots is 10x more legendary.

after that the pistol but way below the halo 2 br for me.


You prefer a weapon that ground the skill curve into dust? Not exactly my idea of a good weapon, all it really did was give birth to the spawn trap/fire lane camping that Halo has been known for for the last few titles.

I realize that quite a few people like the simplicity offered by "one weapon to rule them all", but I always found it extremely boring, and not all that challenging.

The CE pistol was laughably powerful for a pistol, but at least it was balanced with it's accompanying sandbox. Sure you could cross-map with it, but you needed to be a good shot to pull it off. It's slow ROF also limited it from being dominant at close ranges.


How did the br lessen the skill gap in halo 2? The br and its button combinations are what made halo 2 the most competitive generation 6 and 7 console shooter. Anyone against bxr,doubleshotting,etc was just too bad to pull them off


I didn't say it "lessens the skill gap", I said it flattened the skill curve, there is a difference. In CE you had to be a multifaceted player to dominate, that meant that the player with the best map knowledge, varied weapon use, movement ability, and reaction times were very dangerous. Halo 2 introduces the BR and the 98% of the game revolves around a single weapon, and associated tactics that rely on that weapon. That doesn't mean that there is no longer a gap in skill between players, but that gap is defined by a single skill set.

The BR didn't make Halo 2 any more competitive than CE was, all it did was make is so damn simple that it attracted more people to the game. That doesn't mean Halo 2 was terrible, but it was simpler.

[Edited on 05.27.2011 6:09 PM PDT]

  • 05.27.2011 6:00 PM PDT

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the pistol put every weapon in its place. It was a great all around weapon, but in certain situations every weapon could could have an advantage.
There were a couple guns that were pretty much pointless (needler), but for the most part every weapon had its place.

With the pistol you could shoot across the map, but you had to lead your shots on a moving target, but a sniper would still probably win at long range. You could at least hit the sniper to make him zoom out and buy enough time to get to safety. the plasma rifle and pistol were both good because they froze your enemy, so they moved and turned slow so if you came from the side and you could easily run up and melee them. the shotgun had much better range than it does now, so at close range it beat the pistol every time. Rockets... well they're rockets theyd rule anything at close/medium range.

  • 05.27.2011 8:52 PM PDT


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The 3 shot kill.

  • 05.27.2011 11:52 PM PDT
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i dont know any gliches for pistals. all i know is that four shots anyweer and they die, sooooo...yes, the pistal of combat evolved i slike the rocket launcher of reach. =D

  • 05.28.2011 7:10 AM PDT

This is for the CE PISTOL so stop talking about the BR or BxB or whatever it is

  • 05.28.2011 8:50 AM PDT
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Posted by: xXCodered707Xx

Posted by: SweetTRIX

Posted by: totallymassive
halo 2 br with bxr and bxb, and double and quad shots is 10x more legendary.

after that the pistol but way below the halo 2 br for me.


You prefer a weapon that ground the skill curve into dust? Not exactly my idea of a good weapon, all it really did was give birth to the spawn trap/fire lane camping that Halo has been known for for the last few titles.

I realize that quite a few people like the simplicity offered by "one weapon to rule them all", but I always found it extremely boring, and not all that challenging.

The CE pistol was laughably powerful for a pistol, but at least it was balanced with it's accompanying sandbox. Sure you could cross-map with it, but you needed to be a good shot to pull it off. It's slow ROF also limited it from being dominant at close ranges.


How did the br lessen the skill gap in halo 2? The br and its button combinations are what made halo 2 the most competitive generation 6 and 7 console shooter. Anyone against bxr,doubleshotting,etc was just too bad to pull them off


I didn't say it "lessens the skill gap", I said it flattened the skill curve, there is a difference. In CE you had to be a multifaceted player to dominate, that meant that the player with the best map knowledge, varied weapon use, movement ability, and reaction times were very dangerous. Halo 2 introduces the BR and the 98% of the game revolves around a single weapon, and associated tactics that rely on that weapon. That doesn't mean that there is no longer a gap in skill between players, but that gap is defined by a single skill set.

The BR didn't make Halo 2 any more competitive than CE was, all it did was make is so damn simple that it attracted more people to the game. That doesn't mean Halo 2 was terrible, but it was simpler.


lololol, you are so wrong. I'll make it simple for you. In Halo 2 the guns were very easy to use (auto aim bullet magnetism, etc...) THUS you had to rely on other factors to win games (map control, team shooting, weapon control, etc...).

Your skill with 1 weapon could carry you much much further in CE.

  • 05.28.2011 9:56 AM PDT
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Posted by: recon pro 117
i dont know any gliches for pistals. all i know is that four shots anyweer and they die, sooooo...yes, the pistal of combat evolved i slike the rocket launcher of reach. =D


I don't think that is correct.

  • 05.28.2011 9:58 AM PDT

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Posted by: HarakiNinja
Well I think the fact that there was a glitch when you could kill a Hunter in one shot with it as I recall.

  • 05.28.2011 10:14 AM PDT


Posted by: SweetTRIX

Posted by: xXCodered707Xx

Posted by: SweetTRIX

Posted by: totallymassive
halo 2 br with bxr and bxb, and double and quad shots is 10x more legendary.

after that the pistol but way below the halo 2 br for me.


You prefer a weapon that ground the skill curve into dust? Not exactly my idea of a good weapon, all it really did was give birth to the spawn trap/fire lane camping that Halo has been known for for the last few titles.

I realize that quite a few people like the simplicity offered by "one weapon to rule them all", but I always found it extremely boring, and not all that challenging.

The CE pistol was laughably powerful for a pistol, but at least it was balanced with it's accompanying sandbox. Sure you could cross-map with it, but you needed to be a good shot to pull it off. It's slow ROF also limited it from being dominant at close ranges.


How did the br lessen the skill gap in halo 2? The br and its button combinations are what made halo 2 the most competitive generation 6 and 7 console shooter. Anyone against bxr,doubleshotting,etc was just too bad to pull them off


I didn't say it "lessens the skill gap", I said it flattened the skill curve, there is a difference. In CE you had to be a multifaceted player to dominate, that meant that the player with the best map knowledge, varied weapon use, movement ability, and reaction times were very dangerous. Halo 2 introduces the BR and the 98% of the game revolves around a single weapon, and associated tactics that rely on that weapon. That doesn't mean that there is no longer a gap in skill between players, but that gap is defined by a single skill set.

The BR didn't make Halo 2 any more competitive than CE was, all it did was make is so damn simple that it attracted more people to the game. That doesn't mean Halo 2 was terrible, but it was simpler.


So you're trying to tell me that everyone using one weapon in halo 1 is somehow different than everyone using one weapon in halo 2?

  • 05.28.2011 7:38 PM PDT

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