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Subject: Bungie.net Feedback

Hi. My name is Sean. I've been a Bungie fan since Halo launched. Some of my interests include games, exercising, laser tag, martial arts, movies, music, sports, and technology. Feel free to contact me at any time.

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Below are some ideas I'd like to discuss with the community. What do you like? What don't you like? Please share your input to help improve Bungie.net. Thanks.

BUNGIE.NET SEARCH 2.0 :Would you like to search for content in private group forums? Would you like to find the content you're looking for with a more advanced search feature? The Bungie.net/Search page is great for finding the most recent posts made by a user (Forums - Author). The other fields (News, Games, Support, Forums - All) don't always give you the results that you are looking for. Updating this would be beneficial for Bungie.net members and this is how I would do it.

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=56330523

MESSAGE CENTER :Would you like to view your sent messages? Would you like to view a conversation between you and another user on one page as a private thread? Would you like to message multiple users?

Let's remove the subject column (on the left side) and allow you to sort private threads by Username or Last Reply. The right side would display the messages between you and the user(s), which would look exactly like posts in a thread. You could delete any of the sent or received messages, but it would only affect your conversation thread, not theirs.

Instead of having buttons after each message, there would be just one area above to submit a message (similar to the comments of file share items). The order of messages could be changed in the profile settings (oldest first, newest first).

PROFILE :Under the About Me section, there should be a comments section (just like there are for file share items). The user could delete comments or simply disable the option for others to leave comments on their profile page.

Your gamertag next to your username should be replaced with your Xbox LIVE gamercard (displayed on the right side below your Bungie Pro information). Displaying Twitter updates and other widgets below the gamercard could also be implemented.

Lastly, I think adding a blog page (in addition to Overview and Groups) would be cool. There would be a tags and history on one side and news stories on the other. Each news story would have a comments section.

EDIT DISPLAY NAME :Allow one name change (every X number of months) for users who have not been warned or suspended for one year. A small icon would be displayed on their profile page indicating that the user changed their name.

FORUM TITLE BAR COLORS & TITLES :Title bar colors would be determined by join date only, excluding moderators and employees.

< 1 Year Or Blacklisted: Black
1-3 Years: Dark Gray
3-5 Years: Gray
5-7 Years: Light Gray
> 7 Years: Blue

Moderator: Orange
Employee: Yellow

The forum titles would be like a reward system. Let's say you are actively posting for X number of days, you can pick a specific title that describes you as a contributor. If you don't get banned for X number of years, you can pick a title that describes you as a trustworthy person. Maybe, you unlock achievements in a Bungie game, you get to pick a title that describes how awesome you are as a sniper or assisting your team. These are a few examples, but with Bungie's creativity, I'm sure they could have hundreds of cool titles to choose from.

The elitism that some members whine about wouldn't be there because nobody could tell if you just like a different title or if you don't have a title because you can't unlock it (haven't met the requirements or currently/recently blacklisted). With a hierarchy, it becomes a popularity issue. The system would still promote good behavior because getting banned would have the same consequence as it does now; you'd lose your title.

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=31750847

BUNGIE POINTS :How can you make Bungie.net more fun? The titles have served as a rewards system. You play nice, you earn a better title. What if you could earn Bungie Points and use those points as render minutes or as credit to buy something in the Bungie Store? Let's say 1 Render Minute equals 1 Bungie Point.

50 Render Minutes = $5.00
1 Render Minute = $0.10
1 Bungie Point = $0.10

Be A Hero Shirt = $20.00
Be A Hero Shirt = 200 Bungie Points

How can you get Bungie Points?
1. Buy Bungie Points
2. Win A Contest Hosted By Bungie
3. Sign Into Bungie.net For X Number Of Days In A Row
4. Get An Achievement In A Bungie Game
5. Buy Something At The Bungie Store

What can you use your Bungie Points for?
1. Buying Items In The Bungie Store
2. Render Minutes
3. Using Them To Buy A Forum Title You're Eligible For
4. ?
5. Profit

FORUMS & POST FORMAT :Combine Bungie forums to make the Bungie.net Community forum more community-oriented.

Combine the Halo: Combat Evolved forum with the Halo 2 forum. Rename it Halo 1 & 2 for Xbox.

When viewing the forum index, the "Forum Topics" button should be replaced with a "Back to Community Home" button.

When viewing a thread, there should be a "Back to top" at the bottom of the page. The forum index looks good, but I'd rather have the top forum topics and action buttons on the left side. The pinned stickies and topics should be displayed on the right.

The title bar should say the date and time (as a hyperlink of the post) on the right side replacing the "more" text.

When you click the arrow button, you would see "Groups" and "Homepage" on the left. You would see "Last Active" and "Last Post" on the right. Last post would link to more posts.

At the bottom of the post (below content), you would see the date and time the post was edited on the left. Message, Edit, and Reply would be the three buttons on the right. Unleash Ninjas would be displayed as a link under the avatar.

GROUPS :Allow a user to remove their request to join a group with restricted membership. Allow group names to start with a number. Allow groups to be accessed at bungie.net/group/[quick linkname]. Add a "Closed" group membership option that prevents users from joining.

Allow Founder to be linked to an account. If founder account is deleted, make current owner the founder. Display current administrators on the group homepage. Let groups have an owner. The owner would be a super administrator and therefore, could not be removed by other administrators. Ownership could be transferred.

Fix the Edit Security permission so you cannot promote a user to a role that has permissions you do not have. Fix the Kick Members permission so you cannot remove a user who has permissions you do not have or a user who has the kick members permission.

Split the Edit News permission into Edit My News, Edit Other's News, Delete My News, and Delete Other's News. Split Edit Other's Posts into Edit My Posts and Edit Other's Posts. Split Delete Posts into Delete My Posts and Delete Other's Posts. Split Moderate Forum into Reveal Banned Posts, Pin/Unpin Threads, and Lock/Unlock Threads. Split Post to Forums into View Forum, Create New Topic, Post In Unlocked Threads, and Post In Locked Threads. Split Create Resource Entry into Create Resource Entry and Submit Contact Information. Split Edit Any Resource Entry into Edit My Resource Entries, Delete My Resource Entries, Edit Other's Resource Entries, and Delete Other's Resource Entries.

Add unlimited custom titles for group members, which would be different than their security role. Add a system for automatic promoting/demoting (changing security roles and/or custom titles) determined by rules set by group owner.

When a NonMember, blacklisted from a group, joins that particular group, he or she should be put into the member queue, even if the group membership is open.

Group notifications/bulletins, different forum layout, different page layouts, polls, additional forums, filtering, searching group news/posts, and more customization would be a plus.

MORE FOOD FOR THOUGHT :Bungie is most likely going to change their login system (maybe add their own) in the future because they are going multi-platform. I would like to be able to change the Windows Live ID associated to my Bungie.net profile. Having linked accounts (Windows Live ID, Open ID, ect) that you could add/remove would make that possible.

An option to browse Bungie.net on a secure connection (https) whenever possible would be great.

Listing the users currently viewing a forum at the bottom of the page could be interesting to some people. Being able to IM chat with them on that same page would be interesting as well.

Implementing a friends system and online status may not be keeping it simple or part of the Bungie way, but I'll go ahead and throw it out there for discussion.

A community page similar to the old Seventh Column page or Tru7h and Reconciliation page would be cool. This page could display statistics as well as the most recent Classifieds, a group spotlight, a member spotlight, upcoming events that Bungie will be at (Comic-Con, PAX, ect), online get togethers (community carnage, tournaments, ect), and more.

[Edited on 06.07.2011 1:33 AM PDT]

  • 05.25.2011 3:27 AM PDT
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I agree with most of it, saved.

  • 05.25.2011 3:44 AM PDT

Would one be able to change their display name as many times as they want? As long as they don't get banned or warned for a year?
I'm not really for the title system/Bungie point system you suggested. Apart from that I love the other ideas. Nice work and great thrad, Cryptic.

  • 05.25.2011 4:04 AM PDT

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Posted by: BurntSystem
I agree with most of it, saved.

  • 05.25.2011 4:15 AM PDT

Hi. My name is Sean. I've been a Bungie fan since Halo launched. Some of my interests include games, exercising, laser tag, martial arts, movies, music, sports, and technology. Feel free to contact me at any time.

cryptic@me.com | Facebook | Twitter | Xbox LIVE

Posted by: talon2000
Would one be able to change their display name as many times as they want? As long as they don't get banned or warned for a year?
I'm not really for the title system/Bungie point system you suggested. Apart from that I love the other ideas. Nice work and great thrad, Cryptic.
Should users be limited to one name change?

  • 05.25.2011 4:18 AM PDT

Posted by: Cryptic
Posted by: talon2000
Would one be able to change their display name as many times as they want? As long as they don't get banned or warned for a year?
I'm not really for the title system/Bungie point system you suggested. Apart from that I love the other ideas. Nice work and great thrad, Cryptic.
Should users be limited to one name change?
I think one is reasonable. Just because it'll get confusing having people change there names and it'll lead to more problems.

  • 05.25.2011 4:43 AM PDT
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I like most of those ideas but I am bit sceptic about the title system suggestion. I don't fancy the idea of having unlockable titles. It kind of takes away from their original purpose of seeing what kind of member you are. I also don't think we need new title bar colors. Only new thing added to the title system should be new prefixes for people who have been members for over six years or have been without bans or warnings over three years.

As for future sign in system, I believe signing in is going to be integrated to Bungie.net as it can already use HTTPS protocol (you can test it yourself if you want, it really works), which is pretty much a must if they are going to have their own sign in system and not use WLIDs.

P.S. The HTTPS has been around at least since the beta test survey came. At least that's when I first noticed it.

  • 05.25.2011 4:59 AM PDT

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I like the idea of name changes, though if it happened, I think you should have to wait a year - possibly even two - between name changes. Users should be discouraged from changing their names often, and forced to think about their choice before dedicating themselves to it. The user's previous username should also be visible somewhere, perhaps in the drop-down signature box and on their profile.

Posted by: tsassi2
I like most of those ideas but I am bit sceptic about the title system suggestion. I don't fancy the idea of having unlockable titles. It kind of takes away from their original purpose of seeing what kind of member you are. I also don't think we need new title bar colors. Only new thing added to the title system should be new prefixes for people who have been members for over six years or have been without bans or warnings over three years.

I agree with this, especially the last part.

  • 05.25.2011 5:11 AM PDT

Hi. My name is Sean. I've been a Bungie fan since Halo launched. Some of my interests include games, exercising, laser tag, martial arts, movies, music, sports, and technology. Feel free to contact me at any time.

cryptic@me.com | Facebook | Twitter | Xbox LIVE

Posted by: tsassi2
As for future sign in system, I believe signing in is going to be integrated to Bungie.net as it can already use HTTPS protocol (you can test it yourself if you want, it really works), which is pretty much a must if they are going to have their own sign in system and not use WLIDs.

P.S. The HTTPS has been around at least since the beta test survey came. At least that's when I first noticed it.
I was saying there should be a setting that would keep you on https://www.bungie.net all of the time, even if you clicked a http://www.bungie.net link.

  • 05.25.2011 9:41 AM PDT

BLAM is my Gamer-tag.... and also a censor...and a Nickname... and a codename; for Halo CE.

Long live(ed) Ling-Ling.

All your base are belong to us.


Posted by: talon2000
Posted by: Cryptic
Posted by: talon2000
Would one be able to change their display name as many times as they want? As long as they don't get banned or warned for a year?
I'm not really for the title system/Bungie point system you suggested. Apart from that I love the other ideas. Nice work and great thrad, Cryptic.
Should users be limited to one name change?
I think one is reasonable. Just because it'll get confusing having people change there names and it'll lead to more problems.


Yeah, OG or bust. Well.... Maybe. On a forum just like on x-box people can grow to hate you for no reason... I think it depends... Name changes are sometimes valid.

  • 05.25.2011 10:21 AM PDT

I want to see a purple title bar...

  • 05.25.2011 10:24 AM PDT

Posted by: Darth1Snyder
Everytime someone sacks my groceries, I think of Loaf.

I like this a lot.

*saves thread*

  • 05.25.2011 10:54 AM PDT

Do you know what kind of hat I'm wearing?

A party hat; you don't get one. An honor will this party be, a party in your honor, for your honor. Some of Tfear's personal guards are going to be there. You'll be introduced shortly.

Prepare to die.

Those suggestions are all good, but I think it would be better if you can only change your name after a few years to avoid confusion.
Posted by: Cryptic
EDIT DISPLAY NAME :Allow one name change (every X number of years) for users who have not been warned or suspended for one year. A small icon would be displayed on their profile page indicating that the user changed their name.

And how long would that icon be there?

  • 05.25.2011 10:55 AM PDT

Almost a ghost.

Well thought out post, man.
I agree with the majority of your post, especially editing your display name. (I made a stupid mistake long ago which prevented me from using 'Skeltoro' as my primary, which is now possible if any of the web team have the power to change it. ;D)

The only point I disagree with is user titles, probably for the wrong reasons. But the way they operate just now, it's nice to come online and realise "Hey, I'm Heroic now!" or if it happens to disappear it motivates me to try and recover it. Like I said though, it's probably a flaw that I'm appreciating.

  • 05.25.2011 11:10 AM PDT
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BUNGIE.NET SEARCH 2.0 :
Absolutely.
MESSAGE CENTER :
I'd love to see the message center expanded into something like this. It make conversations a breeze.
PROFILE :
I'm neither here nor there.
EDIT DISPLAY NAME :
This would definitely encourage good behavior, so I'm all for it. Even if I'll never use it, it's a great incentive for users.
FORUM TITLE BAR COLORS & TITLES :
I really don't mind the system as it is now. But having that little bit more of variety as far as titles go would be awesome. And I do like the idea of a join date based color bar.
BUNGIE POINTS :
I have always loved this idea.
FORUMS & POST FORMAT :
Would definitely clean up the forums, so I wouldn't mind.
GROUPS :
Overall, I like it.
MORE FOOD FOR THOUGHT :
Aside from a friends list, I like it. In my honest opinion, it would be a waste of space, but that's probably just me.

  • 05.25.2011 11:17 AM PDT

Didact's Reprisal -
Now is the time of our unworlding
One final effort is all that remains
And I am not afraid
We shall fulfill our promise
We fight for the grace of the Mantle
And this time none of you will be left behind

I don't like the concept of Bungie points. Makes the whole website seem cheaper.

  • 05.25.2011 11:29 AM PDT

Major props to my hommie Sheeef. He made Recon possible for me. Long time recovering emails and passwords. And it was his. lol.

thread saved fo'sho!

  • 05.25.2011 11:32 AM PDT

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Nice job Cryptic.

  • 05.25.2011 11:35 AM PDT
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Posted by: Cryptic
Posted by: tsassi2
As for future sign in system, I believe signing in is going to be integrated to Bungie.net as it can already use HTTPS protocol (you can test it yourself if you want, it really works), which is pretty much a must if they are going to have their own sign in system and not use WLIDs.

P.S. The HTTPS has been around at least since the beta test survey came. At least that's when I first noticed it.
I was saying there should be a setting that would keep you on https://www.bungie.net all of the time, even if you clicked a http://www.bungie.net link.

Of course that would be alot useful but for now I am okay with just quickly adding the s. It doesn't take much time. Though I admit it would be a good addition.

  • 05.25.2011 11:47 AM PDT

A 'saved threads' section that isn't just a lolhuge list of threads listed by order of forums.
Some subcategorys to make browsing it easier, please jesus. Folders too.

[Edited on 05.25.2011 11:50 AM PDT]

  • 05.25.2011 11:50 AM PDT

Remember,
It is easy to be male
it is another thing to be a man.

I do like the idea of an improved message centre. At the moment it is rather tedious to use especially as once you've sent a message you have no way to 're-look' at what you've sent.
The rest of the ideas are good, but i don't like the idea of changing the title system, the current system seems to me, to be working very well.

  • 05.27.2011 1:11 AM PDT

i c u thar c' ing my signiture

Yours in _Kai_

Very, very good thread. I like most of the things in your thread Cryptic, good luck with the requests; I sent you a PM back btw.

  • 05.27.2011 1:13 AM PDT

Hi. My name is Sean. I've been a Bungie fan since Halo launched. Some of my interests include games, exercising, laser tag, martial arts, movies, music, sports, and technology. Feel free to contact me at any time.

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Posted by: arch4ng13
Very, very good thread. I like most of the things in your thread Cryptic, good luck with the requests; I sent you a PM back btw.
I added a link to your thread in the groups section and replied to your private message.

:-)

[Edited on 05.27.2011 1:26 AM PDT]

  • 05.27.2011 1:23 AM PDT

Left here a long time ago.

Posted by: Cryptic
MESSAGE CENTER :I would like the message center to look like a thread. The subject column would be removed and there would only be one message per user. You would be able to search for the username. On the left side, you could sort by Username or Last Reply. On the right side, you would see the messages between you and the user, which would look exactly like posts in a thread.
Bad idea. Displays several conversations as a single one. Current display system is fine, if a little lackluster.

Posted by: Cryptic
PROFILE :Under the About Me section, there should be a comments section (just like there are for file share items). The user could delete comments or simply disable the option for others to leave comments on their profile page.
And this would be useful because...?

Posted by: Cryptic
Your gamertag next to your username should be replaced with your Xbox LIVE gamercard (displayed on the right side below your Bungie Pro information). Displaying Twitter updates and other widgets below the gamercard could also be implemented.
If you want people to see your tweets, link to your damn Twitter profile in the "About Me" field. :-|

"Other widgets" could be nice, if those widgets are actually useful.

Posted by: Cryptic
Lastly, I think adding a blog page (in addition to Overview and Groups) would be cool. There would be a tags and history on one side and news stories on the other. Each news story would have a comments section.
No.

Posted by: Cryptic
EDIT DISPLAY NAME :Allow one name change (every X number of months) for users who have not been warned or suspended for one year. A small icon would be displayed on their profile page indicating that the user changed their name.
I see no issue with this... though a lot of userscript authors, myself included, will have to make some changes. :P

Posted by: Cryptic
FORUM TITLE BAR COLORS & TITLES :
Coup.

Posted by: Cryptic
BUNGIE POINTS :
No.

Posted by: Cryptic
FORUMS & POST FORMAT :When viewing a thread, there should be a "Back to top" at the bottom of the page.
Hit "Home" on your keyboard.

Posted by: Cryptic
At the bottom of the post (below content), you would see the date and time the post was edited on the left. Message, Edit, and Reply would be the three buttons on the right. Unleash Ninjas would be displayed as a link under the avatar.
It's fine the way it is.

Posted by: Cryptic
GROUPS :
You left one important thing out: show stickied threads at the top of the main thread list, as is done on the main forums. Too easy to miss the stickies because they're so inconsistent from the much-more-often-used main forums.

Posted by: Cryptic
MORE FOOD FOR THOUGHT :Listing the users currently viewing a forum at the bottom of the page could be interesting to some people. Being able to IM chat with them on that same page would be interesting as well.
I'd rather not be forced to waste large amounts of RAM loading (and then keeping in memory) a list of several thousand users every single time I open the Reach, Optimatch, or Flood forums. IMing would be a waste of bandwidth.

Posted by: Cryptic
Implementing a friends system and online status may not be keeping it simple or part of the Bungie way, but I'll go ahead and throw it out there for discussion.
Friends system? It's called "remember someone's username because you like them". If you can't even remember someone, they're not your friend.

As for online status? It'd be nice to have, but I imagine it'd also be a pain in the neck to manage, in terms of setting it up on the server.

  • 05.27.2011 1:26 AM PDT

Remember,
It is easy to be male
it is another thing to be a man.

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Posted by: Cryptic
MESSAGE CENTER :I would like the message center to look like a thread. The subject column would be removed and there would only be one message per user. You would be able to search for the username. On the left side, you could sort by Username or Last Reply. On the right side, you would see the messages between you and the user, which would look exactly like posts in a thread.
Bad idea. Displays several conversations as a single one. Current display system is fine, if a little lackluster.

How so? It would be a simple thing to just add a break mark in between messages that have a certain time lapse between them, say a month. That way it would be very easy to distinguish between the varying conversations.

Posted by:DavidJCobb
Posted by: Cryptic
BUNGIE POINTS :
No.

Again would you care to expand? I think the basic idea of bungie points is a valid one, but what the points are gained for and what they can be used to 'purchase' should be looked at very closely.

  • 05.27.2011 1:44 AM PDT

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