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Subject: Do you think 343i will ruin Halo?

No, 'cause they still have the good old Bungie touch.

  • 05.26.2011 5:28 AM PDT

Exact science, is not an exact science.


Posted by: RotaryCookie

Posted by: SHOMENUCHI
Not hating just pointing out that appointing yourself the judge of good taste based on a line from a crappy R&B song, is not the way to go!!

As for the idiot who cant see past his brainwashing, he should definately be set alight!! Lol

Just play the game.


What crappy R&B song are we on about now?

Brainwashed? Me? Nah. I do however appriceate that the Haloverse is so great because of all the accompanying material, not just the games which actually add very little substance.

Offical merchendise are perfect for getting the "young'ens" involved and books make for an intelligent, and more mature version of events for those capable of stringing a sentance together.

You seem to be forgetting that Halo is aimed at all age groups and has to cater for them all in order to be sucsessful. Bungie, and now 343i are not making Halo soley for you but for everybody.


This isn't a hard concept to grasp which makes me wonder why you are having so much difficulty understanding it.


Subverting children into corporate jellys? this is your idea of intelligence, it's a video game not a religion, you sir are sadly uninformed on any serious subject let alone a fictional universe!! dear god man pull yourself together.

If you want to discuss Halo and its artistry and philosophy then fine, Waypoint is nothing but a hideous attempt at marketing what is "for sale" the articles are poor and in the background, it serves only to promote poorly written books and tatty packaged plastic.

If you think that is what Halo is then go ahead and defend it, but my stance is that it is a game first.



  • 05.26.2011 5:38 AM PDT
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Deva Path


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We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: SHOMENUCHI

Posted by: RotaryCookie

Posted by: SHOMENUCHI
Not hating just pointing out that appointing yourself the judge of good taste based on a line from a crappy R&B song, is not the way to go!!

As for the idiot who cant see past his brainwashing, he should definately be set alight!! Lol

Just play the game.


What crappy R&B song are we on about now?

Brainwashed? Me? Nah. I do however appriceate that the Haloverse is so great because of all the accompanying material, not just the games which actually add very little substance.

Offical merchendise are perfect for getting the "young'ens" involved and books make for an intelligent, and more mature version of events for those capable of stringing a sentance together.

You seem to be forgetting that Halo is aimed at all age groups and has to cater for them all in order to be sucsessful. Bungie, and now 343i are not making Halo soley for you but for everybody.


This isn't a hard concept to grasp which makes me wonder why you are having so much difficulty understanding it.


Subverting children into corporate jellys? this is your idea of intelligence, it's a video game not a religion, you sir are sadly uninformed on any serious subject let alone a fictional universe!! dear god man pull yourself together.

If you want to discuss Halo and its artistry and philosophy then fine, Waypoint is nothing but a hideous attempt at marketing what is "for sale" the articles are poor and in the background, it serves only to promote poorly written books and tatty packaged plastic.

If you think that is what Halo is then go ahead and defend it, but my stance is that it is a game first.





If you would stop raging and think before just blindly speaking.

Getting children to read anything is good. seeing how halo has books with a few hundred pages and usage of words and other literary means is good for people in general to improve reading skills. not to mention the abstract thinking needed to try to piece the puzzle together, all of which do indeed build intelligence.

Waypoint is marketing since it is a better way for a large fanbase to see the franchise, but it also adds to the story. such has the motion comics and such.

  • 05.26.2011 5:50 AM PDT


Posted by: SHOMENUCHI

Posted by: RotaryCookie

Posted by: SHOMENUCHI
Not hating just pointing out that appointing yourself the judge of good taste based on a line from a crappy R&B song, is not the way to go!!

As for the idiot who cant see past his brainwashing, he should definately be set alight!! Lol

Just play the game.


What crappy R&B song are we on about now?

Brainwashed? Me? Nah. I do however appriceate that the Haloverse is so great because of all the accompanying material, not just the games which actually add very little substance.

Offical merchendise are perfect for getting the "young'ens" involved and books make for an intelligent, and more mature version of events for those capable of stringing a sentance together.

You seem to be forgetting that Halo is aimed at all age groups and has to cater for them all in order to be sucsessful. Bungie, and now 343i are not making Halo soley for you but for everybody.


This isn't a hard concept to grasp which makes me wonder why you are having so much difficulty understanding it.


Subverting children into corporate jellys? this is your idea of intelligence, it's a video game not a religion, you sir are sadly uninformed on any serious subject let alone a fictional universe!! dear god man pull yourself together.

If you want to discuss Halo and its artistry and philosophy then fine, Waypoint is nothing but a hideous attempt at marketing what is "for sale" the articles are poor and in the background, it serves only to promote poorly written books and tatty packaged plastic.

If you think that is what Halo is then go ahead and defend it, but my stance is that it is a game first.





And you are sadly narrow minded.

I am no fool as to believe 343i does this soley for the story; money is a big part of it, hence the merchandise. But to also say they do it only for money is also very short-sighted.

I have yet to find a story with as much depth and intrigue as Halo's. It is morally deep, intellectually stimulating, and asks the biggest questions, such as what is humanity's role in the Universe?

You'd need to be invested into Halo as much as the others here to understand that though. You can't expect to look on the surface and expect to find gold; you need to dig deeper into the dirt to see the tressure.

Which begs the question: if you so loathe the expanded universe as much as you seem too, why are you here on the Universe forums?

  • 05.26.2011 5:50 AM PDT

Exact science, is not an exact science.

This is a proper debate, ok my tactics may seem harsh but the ethos is slowly being eroded by the advertisers, Bungie kept an air of mystery and encouraged thought this is true.

The direction 343 is going in is wrong Cryptum was awful "half" written by an old fashioned out of touch author who is taking the money (it adds nothing to Halo).

Mcfarlane is as inept as he is crooked, expoiting chinese workers to produce god awful toys that again add nothing to a childs development.

Bungie always produced unique marketing strategies there promos for games are fantastic and only ever gave you a keyhole look into there universe.

Waypoint just wants your money, and you fools are jumping over each other to defend it, thoughtless idiots, give the man your money and ask no questions about what is really going on!

Show some integrity you spineless jerks!!

  • 05.26.2011 6:02 AM PDT

Bungie Pentathlon - who actually cares ?


Posted by: SHOMENUCHI
Mcfarlane is as inept as he is crooked, expoiting chinese workers to produce god awful toys that again add nothing to a childs development.

Waypoint just wants your money, and you fools are jumping over each other to defend it, thoughtless idiots, give the man your money and ask no questions about what is really going on!

Show some integrity you spineless jerks!!


I take it you never bought Transformers / Action Force (GI Joe) M.A.S.K / Thundercats merchandise or watched any of the videos / betamax (oh yes) episodes ?

If you have you really have invalidated your argument...if you haven't then your childhood must be lacking and explains your inability to actually debate properly.

Posted by: SHOMENUCHI
This is a proper debate,

Show some integrity you spineless jerks!!


Need I say more. Shut the door on your way out and let the adults discuss things.

[Edited on 05.26.2011 6:10 AM PDT]

  • 05.26.2011 6:08 AM PDT


Posted by: SHOMENUCHI
The direction 343 is going in is wrong Cryptum was awful "half" written by an old fashioned out of touch author who is taking the money (it adds nothing to Halo).


You lost all credibility with that last line. Cryptum is by far one of the better Halo books, and adds more to the galaxy than any other book after FoR did.


Waypoint just wants your money, and you fools are jumping over each other to defend it, thoughtless idiots, give the man your money and ask no questions about what is really going on!


1: Waypoint never asked me, or anybody else to buy anything. If you have Waypoint, chances are mighty big you already are that much into Halo that you already bought all the games and possibly the books.

2: Being against capitalism and big companies and thinking the big bad world wants to control your mind and to buy everything blindly is getting old and simply isn't true.

If you don't like anything Halo, except for the games...then what the hell are you even doing on the forums? After all: these too must be devilish attempts to force us into buying anything that has Halo written on it, without a second thought...

  • 05.26.2011 6:16 AM PDT

Exact science, is not an exact science.

So let me get this right, my intelligence is being measured by you chaps on here Lol, I have stated only that 343 need to get on with the business of making a game.

For me the games are the only real source of information so that might make me a purist.

ODST and Reach are ok but sloppy.

It would seem that the way 343 is going is to only promote the game after they have lined up the outsourcing of trademarks to procurers of plastic parts (Halo Wars - Mega Bloks) crap.

Bungies short films were genius, and once watched you cannot deny they had emotional impact (and no other reason than to promote the game).

You can decompose me all you like, you are only really insulting your own intelligence by not allowing other peoples opinions to be heard.



  • 05.26.2011 6:24 AM PDT


Posted by: SHOMENUCHI
This is a proper debate, ok my tactics may seem harsh but the ethos is slowly being eroded by the advertisers, Bungie kept an air of mystery and encouraged thought this is true.

The direction 343 is going in is wrong Cryptum was awful "half" written by an old fashioned out of touch author who is taking the money (it adds nothing to Halo).


Actually the Forerunner's story is one that the fans have been nagging for since... well, since Halo began.

Posted by: SHOMENUCHI
Mcfarlane is as inept as he is crooked, expoiting chinese workers to produce god awful toys that again add nothing to a childs development.


Simple "playtime" is one of the most crucial parts of a child's development. One that is being overlooked more and more.
When this "playtime" is linked to a parents interest, in this case Halo, it becomes even more beneficial.
I'm not saying anyone is making toys/collectibles for this reason but it is a bloody good side effect.

Neither you or I can help -blam!- working conditions. Go lobby to the U.N. to do something about it. :/

Posted by: SHOMENUCHI
Bungie always produced unique marketing strategies there promos for games are fantastic and only ever gave you a keyhole look into there universe.


And at some point they need to expand and explain. This is done through books, waypoint and other media. No fan will be content with just "peeks" and the fan-base would disappear over night if we were told there would be only games from now on.

Posted by: SHOMENUCHI
Waypoint just wants your money, and you fools are jumping over each other to defend it, thoughtless idiots, give the man your money and ask no questions about what is really going on!

Show some integrity you spineless jerks!!


With more than a fleeting interest in game design myself I can say with absolute certainty that it is incredibly difficult to produce top-notch media if you don't have an active interest in what you are doing.
Of course money is on the list, but pleasing the fans and satisfying your own curiosity and creative needs is always priority.


Anyhow, your logic is flawed. By buying the games you're giving away your money without thinking in the same way anyone else is by buying a book.

  • 05.26.2011 6:25 AM PDT

Exact science, is not an exact science.

Need I say more. Shut the door on your way out and let the adults discuss things. Lol

Look out plato we have a real philosopher here!!

Transformers and G.I. Joe, serious subject matter indeed, what a ludite it would be cruel for me to enter into any meaningful prose with you, as it is obvious you are of the X-Files variety of education.

So oil companies cause us no problems? is that what you are telling me, and you must be aware that plastic comes from oil? this is no conspiracy friend just facts.

Foolish boy!! pointing your little plastic gun at the world!! Lol

  • 05.26.2011 6:36 AM PDT

Bungie Pentathlon - who actually cares ?

Posted by: SHOMENUCHI
**censored for extreme buffoonery**



Ok, that will be last reply to you as you clearly have the personality of a dish cloth.

Back on topic - game designers are usually only as good as their last game, for me Bungie left the game and Universe in a bit of a mess / sour note - so its an extra burden on 343 to untangle the mess (opinion) and set it straight

I would imagine a bevvy of related media long before any release of a pure 343 game, which in my eyes isn't a bad thing.

[Edited on 05.26.2011 6:41 AM PDT]

  • 05.26.2011 6:40 AM PDT

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Posted by: ParagonRenegade
You were totally and absolutely correct in every way, I don't know why we were arguing, you're so amazing I should never have doubted you.

With Frankie at the helm and Sage off ruining Bungie's new IP, they can't be at too much of a disadvantage.

  • 05.26.2011 6:41 AM PDT

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343 is made up of a lot of bungie members who were true to halo from the start, not the new guys from h3 to reach, they should do fine

  • 05.26.2011 7:01 AM PDT

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Posted by: SHOMENUCHI
*snip*


I just... wow.

Somebody's beeen drinnnnnking.

  • 05.26.2011 8:30 AM PDT

Have you seen my mind anywhere? I seem to have lost it...

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After Evolutions and Cryptum I would say that 343i looks like they are going to do great things to the Halo universe. Of course we won't know for sure until they release a game, but their stuff has been outstanding lately.

  • 05.26.2011 9:34 AM PDT
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I dont think 343 could screw up halo, bungie already did that for them with Halo 2, then shat on halo with Reach.

  • 05.26.2011 11:14 AM PDT

no

  • 05.26.2011 11:45 AM PDT
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they seem to be doing a good job at reach right now, i'm sure they can handle it!

  • 05.26.2011 7:11 PM PDT

I laugh at your pitifall attempts to defeat me!

I'm pretty confident Halo's in safe hands. I think it's the best time, too, as Bungie seemed to be losing their way.

  • 05.26.2011 8:31 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Where is everyone getting the whole "343 is made up of ex-Bungie employees" statistic? I know only two by name, Frank O'Conner and Nathan Walpole. Everyone else comes from various other developers and background. I think Shishka is there, but I'm not sure.

I'm willing to give them a chance, but so far my opinion of them is mixed. I loved Halo: Legends, the Defiant Map pack, Evolutions, Cryptum, and Waypoint. However, some of the things they want to make canon, such as ilovebess and Nicole-458, worries me. And I pray to God Frankie doesn't have anything to do with the story, because Midnight on the Heart of the Midlothian was terrible.

And everyone going "They can't do worse than Reach", that's Sonic the Hedgehog logic right there and we know how well that fanbase is known for handling new Sonic games. I pray we don't get that way. That and that places pressure on 343 as new developers that they don't need.

[Edited on 05.26.2011 8:47 PM PDT]

  • 05.26.2011 8:46 PM PDT


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Being on fire is the best thing for you and all the extra crappy mercahndise that you freaks consume, just gimme a video game please!! Loser


GTFO

  • 05.26.2011 8:50 PM PDT

Highlands.

Nuff said.

  • 05.26.2011 11:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: mojeda101
No.

With Frankie leading the way? Not a chance.

  • 05.26.2011 11:53 PM PDT
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Give Us Forge City!

  • 05.27.2011 12:04 AM PDT

Bungie Pentathlon - who actually cares ?


Posted by: Holoe4
Give Us Forge City!


Nah, I hope the developers spend more time on the campaign / story

  • 05.27.2011 12:30 AM PDT

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