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Alright you bunch of Godless fan boys I need some input. I'm writing a piece of fan fiction and I lack sufficient nerd status to know certain details. Master---Chief among them (see what I did there?) are the names and situations of all surviving Spartans besides John-117.

Feel free to post a link, write a short explanation, call me a jerk, or insult my mother. Just give me the info I need.

Thanks in advance.

  • 05.25.2011 10:25 PM PDT

Spartan II's

John
Linda
Kelly
Fred
Jai
Adriana
Mike
Jerome
Douglas
Alice

Spartan III's

Team Katana[5 Spartan III's]
Tom
Lucy
Gamma Company[330 Spartans]
Jun


[Edited on 05.26.2011 12:07 AM PDT]

  • 05.25.2011 11:15 PM PDT

I just refuse to believe that jun is still alive. But it is commonly agreed that he is.

  • 05.25.2011 11:17 PM PDT

Posted by: boogerman77
I just refuse to believe that jun is still alive. But it is commonly agreed that he is.


Think of it this way. How could he he have died?

Pelican shot down? Impossible, Halsey would have died as well, I fail to see how Jun would have died on a Pelican fight to CASTLE base without Halsey dying as well. Fist Full of Arrows will answer it.

  • 05.25.2011 11:20 PM PDT


Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: boogerman77
I just refuse to believe that jun is still alive. But it is commonly agreed that he is.


Think of it this way. How could he he have died?

Pelican shot down? Impossible, Halsey would have died as well, I fail to see how Jun would have died on a Pelican fight to CASTLE base without Halsey dying as well. Fist Full of Arrows will answer it.


Yeah im awear that he is probably alive but castle is metioned in one of the books and he isnt and im just still sorta mad that i didnt get the campagin i wanted in reach but yeah. listen to that guy not me.

  • 05.25.2011 11:26 PM PDT

Posted by: boogerman77

Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: boogerman77
I just refuse to believe that jun is still alive. But it is commonly agreed that he is.


Think of it this way. How could he he have died?

Pelican shot down? Impossible, Halsey would have died as well, I fail to see how Jun would have died on a Pelican fight to CASTLE base without Halsey dying as well. Fist Full of Arrows will answer it.


Yeah im awear that he is probably alive but castle is metioned in one of the books and he isnt and im just still sorta mad that i didnt get the campagin i wanted in reach but yeah. listen to that guy not me.


Campaign you wanted? You wanted something that had lasted barely a day?

  • 05.25.2011 11:29 PM PDT


Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: boogerman77

Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: boogerman77
I just refuse to believe that jun is still alive. But it is commonly agreed that he is.


Think of it this way. How could he he have died?

Pelican shot down? Impossible, Halsey would have died as well, I fail to see how Jun would have died on a Pelican fight to CASTLE base without Halsey dying as well. Fist Full of Arrows will answer it.


Yeah im awear that he is probably alive but castle is metioned in one of the books and he isnt and im just still sorta mad that i didnt get the campagin i wanted in reach but yeah. listen to that guy not me.


Campaign you wanted? You wanted something that had lasted barely a day?


yes. did you not? i wouldve loved to watch reach fall in a day the way it was supposed to. they couldve easily made a 10-15 hour mabye even into 20 hour campaign. you just have to think real time. in my opinion reach didnt do a very good job of showcaseing how truly strong the covenent is.

  • 05.25.2011 11:33 PM PDT
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Isnt Grey team still alive? As well as SoF spartans

  • 05.25.2011 11:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: spartinll5
Isnt Grey team still alive? As well as SoF spartans


Yup yup.

  • 05.25.2011 11:53 PM PDT

Posted by: spartinll5
Isnt Grey team still alive? As well as SoF spartans


Added.

  • 05.26.2011 12:00 AM PDT
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Member of Bungie.net for nearly three years, still continuing!

Enjoy what you have and live on.

My gamertag is Elder Bias

In case, Grey Team consists of three SPARTAN-IIs.

Their names:

Jai-006
Adriana-111
Mike

  • 05.26.2011 12:05 AM PDT

What about Team Black?

  • 05.26.2011 12:09 AM PDT

Damnit, just wrote a huge @$$ post and it didn't register....lame.

Anyways: recap.

List of living S2's:
- John 117
- Blue Team
- Black Team
- Grey Team
- Red Team (SoF: assuming they are still in cryo)

List of living S3's:
- Team Katana
- The team in cryo, forgot their names.

Debatable:
- Jun (assume he is dead. First Strike never mentions him being alive, but does mention Halsey's Spartan protector to have died.)
- Jorge (almost certainly dead. He just got the litteral "Spartans don't die, they're just MIA" "dead" by Bungie...still: a very tiny little chance he might have survived. But thats almost nihil, so consider him dead)
- Headhunters (privatized Spartans, possible there are still a few around)
- Privatized Spartans (much like how Kurt and Noble 6 were privatized by ONI and other high ranking generals. Possible there are more listed as MIA, but still active Spartans around as privatized Spartans.
- Wash outs. (not active soldiers, but still Spartans, and have important roles behind the scenes in the ONI offices etc)


EDIT:
Also, for Jun's fate:
Fist full of arrows isn't canon. Its an incredible piece of fanon (fan fiction), but its not official. Whatever is being said in that comic is not regarded as officially Juns fate. Enjoy the comic. I do too. But don't hold that as the answer to what happened to Jun, it will never be official.

[Edited on 05.26.2011 2:01 AM PDT]

  • 05.26.2011 1:59 AM PDT

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Posted by: DonVinzone1
Jun (assume he is dead. First Strike never mentions him being alive, but does mention Halsey's Spartan protector to have died.)


I thought it was another Spartan that died, sure Privet Caboose (or was it chickenlittle) suggested it was another Spartan that was killed and Halsey, post capture, was depicted in "The Package"

  • 05.26.2011 3:30 AM PDT

Even if he isn't the dead Spartan protector, the chances of him surviving are minimal.

Reach was almost abandoned at the time, except for small groups of remaining UNSC. Covies dominated the skies and space. So there really isn't a valid chance of Jun making it on a transport ship off the planet for instance.
First Strik offers the last trip off of Reach and Jun isn't mentioned there.

That means he didn't make it off the planet....mind you: a planet being destroyed by Covies, making it not capable of supporting live for many years. Jun will have died there anyways.

  • 05.26.2011 3:45 AM PDT

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Posted by: DonVinzone1
Even if he isn't the dead Spartan protector, the chances of him surviving are minimal.

Reach was almost abandoned at the time, except for small groups of remaining UNSC. Covies dominated the skies and space. So there really isn't a valid chance of Jun making it on a transport ship off the planet for instance.
First Strik offers the last trip off of Reach and Jun isn't mentioned there.

That means he didn't make it off the planet....mind you: a planet being destroyed by Covies, making it not capable of supporting live for many years. Jun will have died there anyways.


I'm glad, he was a terrible character - The Simpsons had Poochy, Reach had Jun

  • 05.26.2011 4:32 AM PDT

There really wasn't that much room for any real character development in Reach to be honest.
First of all because its a shooter, second of all because of the lenght of the game, third of all because of the ingame period that is takes place in: far too short for Spartans to really show some character development. Remember: they're used so seeing f-ed up stuff all the time. Even planets being invaded.

I do feel there is an opportunity for 343i to give Noble Team some of the shine it could have. Simply by making an ODST-type "expansion" for Reach. Focus it on Jun and Halsey. Make it more stealth like. Bring back the silenced SMG and Magnum.
Take some elements from Fist full of Arrows. Even if its fanon, it still got some interesting ideas.
Let it all take place during the escape to CASTLE Base, while Reach is being glassed and bombed all over the place.
Have maybe 2 flashback levels that show entire Noble Team and add more character depth to that.
Also: Halsey would want to know everything about S3's and Jun's backstory = more character details.

Make it dark and depressing. With the final level linking us up with the last big group of UNSC soldiers, including most of the S2's from Blue Team that survived (which are more than 10 if I'm not mistaken!), and handing over Halsey to them. Have one big last fight to hold off the Covies -> Jun dies -> Halsey and the rest retreat to CASTLE Base which is still somewhat secret to the Covies at that point.

I would very much like such a game. Second chance to give Noble some character

  • 05.26.2011 5:12 AM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Halsey's "Protector" that was killed is confirmed to be Sheila.

  • 05.26.2011 5:21 AM PDT

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Posted by: DonVinzone1
There really wasn't that much room for any real character development in Reach to be honest.


Indeed, thats why I am puzzled as to why they were shoe horned into the game, perhaps if there had been a motion comic or some sort of material (other than the live action mini trailer) that showed the formation of Noble Team, their pasts etc (not a few lines written about playing cards with Jorge is bad)

If 343 were to construct a prequal to Halo: Reach, perhaps even as a mini campaign I am sure their characters would feel more accepted

Privet Caboose - thats the name I was thinking of ! Kudos

[Edited on 05.26.2011 6:02 AM PDT]

  • 05.26.2011 6:02 AM PDT

We'll bury our burdens in blood...

Posted by: mojeda101
Spartan II's

John
Linda
Kelly
Fred
Jai
Adriana
Mike
Jerome
Douglas
Alice

Spartan III's

Team Katana[5 Spartan III's]
Tom
Lucy
Gamma Company[330 Spartans]
Jun


This is good, can I get the numbers that go with them (i.e John 117, Carter 259). Also I need to know why they survived.

  • 05.26.2011 7:08 AM PDT
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Imagine a triangle. It's perfect, but a little plain. You take a chisel, and carve a small decorative symbol into it to make it a little more interesting. People like it, but it could use a little more.

So you then take a sledgehammer..


Posted by: mojeda101
Spartan II's

John
Linda
Kelly
Fred
Jai
Adriana
Mike
Jerome
Douglas
Alice

Spartan III's

Team Katana[5 Spartan III's]
Tom
Lucy
Gamma Company[330 Spartans]
Jun

Isn't Black Team still alive?

  • 05.26.2011 7:37 AM PDT

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Who the hell is Shiela?

  • 05.26.2011 8:24 AM PDT
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Imagine a triangle. It's perfect, but a little plain. You take a chisel, and carve a small decorative symbol into it to make it a little more interesting. People like it, but it could use a little more.

So you then take a sledgehammer..


Posted by: DeathBySniper
Who the hell is Shiela?

The Spartan II that died protecting Dr Halsey during the battle of Miridem in 2544.

  • 05.26.2011 10:52 AM PDT

We'll bury our burdens in blood...

Is that all you got nerds? I want to know how these Spartans survived!

  • 05.27.2011 11:02 AM PDT
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Imagine a triangle. It's perfect, but a little plain. You take a chisel, and carve a small decorative symbol into it to make it a little more interesting. People like it, but it could use a little more.

So you then take a sledgehammer..


Posted by: dalcaeus
Is that all you got nerds? I want to know how these Spartans survived!

Then read the books.

  • 05.27.2011 11:20 AM PDT

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