- RKOSNAKE
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Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Posted by: xecnalxes117
You're basing this off game play which is inaccurate. Remember when Halo 3 ODST came out & people said, "ODSTs are better because they can kill covenant without augmentations & they can see in the dark & hold more grenades"? That's because you control the "Rookie". In any game, the character you control is supposed to be good. If you read Ghosts of Onyx, the rest of the Spartan III's had SPI armor (no shields, just active camo)& Kelly (a Spartan II on Chiefs unit) pinned down 2 Spartan III's. Besides, Spartan III's were trained by a Spartan II.They weren't as fit or as strong as any Spartan II. Linda (known for best marksmanship) could Snipe Jun, Samuel (known for being the tallest & strongest Spartan) could crush Jorge (Yeah Jorge is a Spartan 2, but he along with Noble team was made up), Chief (Known for luck) can save humanity & himself (Carter can't even dream of doing that), Kelly would choke slam Kat & Emile at the same time (She was known for speed). Noble 6, since he's controlled by the player, is unknown.
All Spartan II's were trained to be able to use most forms of technology. So Kats "skill" at hacking is useless. Spartan II's can see in the dark, so no need for ODSTs. All in all, besides the other Spartan programs (including the secret ones), Spartan II's were the most successful. The only thing able to kill any Spartan, is Iron Man.
Blue Team > Noble Team
or
John > Carter
This has to be one of the most biased and uninformative posts I have ever seen. I shall effectively to any of the points addressed once I get on my computer though.
(Edit, alright now I'm back on my computer so I shall adress them)
True, ODST was a game where you pretty much played a shieldless Spartan, but there was no other way to do it, considering how difficult Halo is *specially in the harder difficulties, where three or less plasma shots can take down your shield* Resistance and strength had to be implemented into the game in order to make it fun.
Second, it is true that the Spartan III's had just SPI Armor *Which I may say, didn't boosted any sort of physical attribute, unlike it's MJOLNIR counterpart did.* And she fought Holly for some moments before overpowering her for the same reason that I've just mentioned, I even have a quote.
There was motion in Kelly's peripheral vision, a blur.
She spun and saw a ghostly figure, moving toward her, faster than any human could move. Kelly sidestepped, grabbed the arm, twisted. Her opponent reverse-twisted and countered the lock.
Whatever it was, it wasn't human; otherwise Kelly would have ripped its human arm from the socket. Her opponent twisted her wrist and escaped from Kelly's grip. Kelly was still faster her other hand lashed out, palm flat, and impacted the solar
plexus. The other figure flew back two meters, hit a tree, and slumped.
Kelly ducked and placed herself between the blast and Dr. Halsey. Splinters and stones pelted the energy shield of her MJOLNIR armor. When the dust cleared, the other person, the one that had sounded impossibly like Kurt had vanished. So was the soldier she had knocked out.
So, not only was Holly able to withstand a punch from a fully armored Spartan II, which are so called better and yet, we see that she wasn't even knocked out, due to her activating the reflective plates from her SPI armor, the fact that she could match Kelly's movements tells you that they were more than capable at holding their own against Spartan II's.
You say that Spartan III's were trained by a Spartan II. Very true, but that raises the issue, Spartan II's were trained by Mendez, a normal man, so I do not see where would you get with this point other than give me more ground to further express my belief in Spartan III's. By training them, Kurt would pretty much put everything he was taught and as it was said in the book "Improve" the training regiment to make it even more effective.
I know Linda was unmatched by any other Sniper in the UNSC, but there are tons of possibilities when considering a battle, if Jun was already waiting, a kilometer away, with bushes all over his body, of course he is going to win, same could be said about Linda, you gotta specify more.
Regardless of Sam and Jorge, both were Spartan II's and both were made up, so I do not see where you're going to with this. It's like saying that Darth Vader is stronger than Starkiller, just because Starkiller is newer making him a "made up" character although Vader would be too.
John *I refuse to call him Chief, it gives the character more praise than it deserves* has always been an overrated character, specially in the games where we see him mowing down anything from infection forms to Scarabs, even though if the games followed real life mechanics, any fight with several Brutes/Elites would have ended up on his demise, just like any other Spartan's. Besides, comparing members of Blue team *which still have a history to finish* to members or Noble Team *Whom were meant to die from the moment they were announced* has to be one of the weakest reasons to compare Spartan II's against Spartan III's.
Again with Kelly? We've already seen that Holly *again, with no MJOLNIR armor boosting her abilities* was able to fight Kelly for some moments with ease, you're expecting us people to believe that she would stand a chance in hand to hand with two MJOLNIR clad Spartan III's, and chokeslam them? what is this, wrestling?
About technology, I don't remember reading about any Spartan hacking into anything during the books, so it is not a skill that many share. Speaking of Spartan abilities, Spartan III's can also see in the dark and pretty much do anything the Spartan II's do, even better I may say.
Only Ironman can kill a Spartan II now? Hmmmm, how curious, I remember reading about several Spartans getting killed by other people, like this:
-Sam: you could say that he was killed by a Jackal, because he couldn't leave the ship after being shot by one.
-Grace: got pretty much destroyed by Brutes.
-Solomon & Arthur: Real soldiers we've got eh chaps?
-Red Team Beta: MAC'd to hell by their own allies.
-Daisy: Needlers by Grunts and Elites.
-Linda: Killed by Grunts and Jackals, later revived.
-an unidentified Spartan killed by an Elite with a needler.
The list goes on and on, so I suggest you consider this post the next time you are going to say that Spartan II's are better than Spartan III's. Remember that they were fighting the Covenant when they were just kids and doing a great job about it.
In case nobody saw it.