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Subject: MM quitters are ruinng my game not afk'ers

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Posted by: ShadowDusk
how do ff afk'ers ruin it?

more kills for you.


Can people please actually read the topic.
Afk's are not my problem quitters are.

  • 07.04.2011 9:26 AM PDT

i dont think there is anything bungie can do about it. people have a right to stop playing if they want to.

  • 07.04.2011 9:26 AM PDT

who's idea is it to imply quit ban's?? FIRST: Solve the matchmaking problem --> lag and lagging out of games.

SECOND: now fix the matchmaking itself. a party of 8 players should not be matched to players playing alone, i mean, WTF, even if all 8 play the whole game, they will loose due to no communication. SO: make matchmaking in a way that when a party of 8 plays, the get matchmade against at least 2 teams of 4 players, or one team of 6.!

And then what: Spawn trapping is just boring, doing it right, you cant break it, cuz you'll be dead before you got to shoot m

  • 07.04.2011 9:27 AM PDT

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Posted by: KING ANUBIS 13
who's idea is it to imply quit ban's?? FIRST: Solve the matchmaking problem --> lag and lagging out of games.

SECOND: now fix the matchmaking itself. a party of 8 players should not be matched to players playing alone, i mean, WTF, even if all 8 play the whole game, they will loose due to no communication. SO: make matchmaking in a way that when a party of 8 plays, the get matchmade against at least 2 teams of 4 players, or one team of 6.!

And then what: Spawn trapping is just boring, doing it right, you cant break it, cuz you'll be dead before you got to shoot m


I agree with your main point: Bungie should never matchup randoms against full or 3/4 teams.

  • 07.04.2011 9:47 AM PDT
Subject: MM quitters are ruinng my game not FF afk'ers
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Look on the brightside, if people on your team quit, you get more credits than usually. Also if people quit on the other team than it sucks but you still get a little bit more credits than usual. I definitely agree that quitters suck but they do score you some more cR. Unlike quitters, AFKers are still in the game therefore they will not get you more points. Also the other team just kills the AFKer(s) and rack up points. Then you lose.

  • 07.04.2011 10:06 AM PDT
Subject: MM quitters are ruinng my game not afk'ers

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Posted by: KING ANUBIS 13
who's idea is it to imply quit ban's?? FIRST: Solve the matchmaking problem --> lag and lagging out of games.

SECOND: now fix the matchmaking itself. a party of 8 players should not be matched to players playing alone, i mean, WTF, even if all 8 play the whole game, they will loose due to no communication. SO: make matchmaking in a way that when a party of 8 plays, the get matchmade against at least 2 teams of 4 players, or one team of 6.!

And then what: Spawn trapping is just boring, doing it right, you cant break it, cuz you'll be dead before you got to shoot m


I agree with your main point: Bungie should never matchup randoms against full or 3/4 teams.


While losing randoms are the main quitters, full paties and clans quit against us too so that wouldnt really help.
Harssher penalties is the only way.

  • 07.04.2011 10:21 PM PDT

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Posted by: captain snoopy
i dont think there is anything bungie can do about it. people have a right to stop playing if they want to.


yes there is (although its 343's problem now)
No they dont. If your not going to finish a game dont start one.

  • 07.04.2011 11:05 PM PDT

i hate when i get banned for lagging out not quiting.

  • 07.04.2011 11:08 PM PDT
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i rarely quit, but if im in a gametype that i absolutely hate, why should i have to stay. if i get a map i hate in cod i find a new lobby.

  • 07.04.2011 11:11 PM PDT

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Lagg ruin game -> makes it boring and frustrating -> me quitting -> 500 rage quits and counting... I only quit every 5th laggy game though...

  • 07.04.2011 11:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: xMCxVSxARBITERx
Lagg ruin game -> makes it boring and frustrating -> me quitting -> 500 rage quits and counting... I only quit every 5th laggy game though...

Search good connection or get better Internet. I have good internet and mainly search good connection, rarely get lag and when i do I just put up with it and wait for a host change rather than quitting.

  • 07.04.2011 11:32 PM PDT

The best protection against bad hosts is to play with a full party from the same country who all have open NATs, that way you have a good chance of one of your team getting host and giving the rest of your party a playable connection.

Taking people's credits wouldn't reduce quitting, the jackpots are a good idea to encourage people to stay in the game. Positive re-enforcement works better than penalising players.

If someone is spending most of their time looking at the respawn screen there's a good chance they'll quit out regardless of the systems the developer puts in place.

Quitting wasn't as much of a problem in Halo 3 because there weren't as many cheap tactics to spawn kill, in Reach every a mediocre team can run riot once they've got all the power weapons and vehicles with little chance the other team can come back.

  • 07.05.2011 4:08 AM PDT

Posted by: Jamage007
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How original ... another rage post about quitters by someone who QUITS themselves.

"We destroy and they always quit" - LOL, except sometimes its the other way around :)

And how come YOU can get "lagged out" but when it happens to others YOU KNOWN that they quit?

Learn to cope like the rest of us.
Not like you loose out, there are as many games you benefit from as those you loose out from (in fact you seem to benefit more than loose) ... so yeah, annoying but so are you :)


If your so smart then you would have understood the part where it was once in 6 weeks. An occasional lag out is fine as everyone gets it.
2 of the people in that game on the other team are habitual quitters whenever they see us so they probly caused the game to lag out before it even started or host booted our whole team either way it doesnt happen often.

You seem to fail at reading or understanding as the whole point is once people start quitting everyone loses out on both teams.

So the 'occasional lag out is fine' and you know of '2 of the people' who (you claim) are habitual quitters. So that is 2, out of how many other people YOU want banned and punished. As long as its not YOU.

Ok, look at it a different way. Lets say we all quit one game per day - well below bungies current limit (and yes, you have DNFs recorded == quits, be honest and deal with it). Looking at bungies stats we have 100,000+ unique players per day ... so 100,000 is fine with you .. cause thats an 'occasional lag out' ... honestly - lol.

You cant fix the problem by banning people. Doesnt work ... isnt working. No matter if it is a 'lag out' or or something else came up/dont like that map ... people are going to leave the game without thought.

No other xbl game needs this level of protection, other studios deal with it through in-game design. To think increasing the penalty will solve anything is just stupid.

  • 07.05.2011 4:24 AM PDT

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You answered your own question why people quit when playing against full teams like yours.

You show no sportsmanship to your opponents, yet you come here and cry when they show none towards you.
It's the way you behave in game that causes people to quit on you, you bring it on yourselves and then you have the nerve to come on here and cry that the randoms quit on you, pathetic.

Maybe if you and other teams had conducted themselves in a more adult, mature manner people wouldnt quit the moment they see a full party.

  • 07.05.2011 4:36 AM PDT

If you introduce a credit penalty for quitting, guess what you'll get? More AFK'ers.

I'll quit when I like, and that's not very often. Generally the only reason is because i'm in BTB and they've selected BTB Snipers.

I refuse to play Snipers because it's -blam!-.

  • 07.05.2011 4:54 AM PDT

OP gets what he deserves for spawn trapping! tired of seeing people leave, don't spawn trap them! play with randoms, problem solved, sure ur KD will drop but then it will probably be more representative!

  • 07.05.2011 5:30 AM PDT
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To be fair I've quiet out of a number of games and if I was up against the line up in your examples and was just constantly dying then I defiantly would. And I'll tell you why, IT'S NOT FUN!

Yes it is possible to break spwan traps, but almost always impossible for lower true skills and you get dominated. The real problem is groups like yours getting matched against non-grouped lower ranks. People with lower true skills just get shut down and don't enjoy it and then higher ranks get annoyed because everyone quits. What we need is adjustment to the matchmaking alogrithums.

  • 07.05.2011 5:34 AM PDT

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Posted by: Oh GodLike One
Posted by: Jamage007
Posted by: Oh GodLike One
How original ... another rage post about quitters by someone who QUITS themselves.

"We destroy and they always quit" - LOL, except sometimes its the other way around :)

And how come YOU can get "lagged out" but when it happens to others YOU KNOWN that they quit?

Learn to cope like the rest of us.
Not like you loose out, there are as many games you benefit from as those you loose out from (in fact you seem to benefit more than loose) ... so yeah, annoying but so are you :)


If your so smart then you would have understood the part where it was once in 6 weeks. An occasional lag out is fine as everyone gets it.
2 of the people in that game on the other team are habitual quitters whenever they see us so they probly caused the game to lag out before it even started or host booted our whole team either way it doesnt happen often.

You seem to fail at reading or understanding as the whole point is once people start quitting everyone loses out on both teams.

So the 'occasional lag out is fine' and you know of '2 of the people' who (you claim) are habitual quitters. So that is 2, out of how many other people YOU want banned and punished. As long as its not YOU.

Ok, look at it a different way. Lets say we all quit one game per day - well below bungies current limit (and yes, you have DNFs recorded == quits, be honest and deal with it). Looking at bungies stats we have 100,000+ unique players per day ... so 100,000 is fine with you .. cause thats an 'occasional lag out' ... honestly - lol.

You cant fix the problem by banning people. Doesnt work ... isnt working. No matter if it is a 'lag out' or or something else came up/dont like that map ... people are going to leave the game without thought.

No other xbl game needs this level of protection, other studios deal with it through in-game design. To think increasing the penalty will solve anything is just stupid.


Do you just not get the part where I have lagged out once as in 1 time in the last 6 weeks, thats less than occasional thats rare.
I dont quit so I dont deserve to be punished, the people quitting all the time do.

  • 07.05.2011 5:42 AM PDT


Posted by: Jamage007

Posted by: Oh GodLike One
Posted by: Jamage007
Posted by: Oh GodLike One
How original ... another rage post about quitters by someone who QUITS themselves.

"We destroy and they always quit" - LOL, except sometimes its the other way around :)

And how come YOU can get "lagged out" but when it happens to others YOU KNOWN that they quit?

Learn to cope like the rest of us.
Not like you loose out, there are as many games you benefit from as those you loose out from (in fact you seem to benefit more than loose) ... so yeah, annoying but so are you :)


If your so smart then you would have understood the part where it was once in 6 weeks. An occasional lag out is fine as everyone gets it.
2 of the people in that game on the other team are habitual quitters whenever they see us so they probly caused the game to lag out before it even started or host booted our whole team either way it doesnt happen often.

You seem to fail at reading or understanding as the whole point is once people start quitting everyone loses out on both teams.

So the 'occasional lag out is fine' and you know of '2 of the people' who (you claim) are habitual quitters. So that is 2, out of how many other people YOU want banned and punished. As long as its not YOU.

Ok, look at it a different way. Lets say we all quit one game per day - well below bungies current limit (and yes, you have DNFs recorded == quits, be honest and deal with it). Looking at bungies stats we have 100,000+ unique players per day ... so 100,000 is fine with you .. cause thats an 'occasional lag out' ... honestly - lol.

You cant fix the problem by banning people. Doesnt work ... isnt working. No matter if it is a 'lag out' or or something else came up/dont like that map ... people are going to leave the game without thought.

No other xbl game needs this level of protection, other studios deal with it through in-game design. To think increasing the penalty will solve anything is just stupid.


Do you just not get the part where I have lagged out once as in 1 time in the last 6 weeks, thats less than occasional thats rare.
I dont quit so I dont deserve to be punished, the people quitting all the time do.



Don't u get it that u ruin the game by exploiting the spawning system? u want to play full games stop doing that!!!! want to play full games with a party, what about playing arena? ALL u want is to spawn trap! People should be allowed to quit, if the game cannot replace the missing players then its the games fault not the quitters!

  • 07.05.2011 5:49 AM PDT

Posted by:IT'S NOT FUN!This brings up an interesting point about the change in player's psyche I have noticed in the transition from Halo 3 to Reach.

In halo 3 players tended to do what they wanted, freely moving around the maps whereas in Reach due to the power of the power weapons and vehicles player movement is almost pre-determined.

I think that is what makes Reach less fun than the other Halos.

  • 07.05.2011 5:55 AM PDT
Subject: MM quitters are ruinng my game not afk'ers

Ferrex: "[...] perhaps to your astonishment, we do have more significant bans prepared for habitual AFK'ers and betrayal inciting. We've thought about this harder than you have."

LOLOLOLOL clearly you are wrong.

Pointless thread is pointless.

If someone quitting is actually "effecting your game" that much you have to -blam!- and moan about it, maybe it's time to pick up a new hobby?!

  • 07.05.2011 5:56 AM PDT
Subject: MM quitters are ruinng my game not FF afk'ers

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If you play firefight more than matchmaking, then AFKers are a problem for you. If not, then they aren't. I play both evenly.. (Mostly Score Attack now, Firefight Arcade is full of AFKers, 90% of 'em are host/downloading -blam!-/are there, but don't leave the spawn area.. It slows down gameplay. I'd rather have the whole team playing. More AFKers = Longer games. Longer games = Less credits for me in the long run)

Matchmaking.. I agree. Quitters need to have harsher punishments. However, Bungie isn't in charge anymore. Hopefully 343 will do a better job at "Policing" the community.

  • 07.05.2011 6:10 AM PDT

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Posted by: ajincamelot
If you play firefight more than matchmaking, then AFKers are a problem for you. If not, then they aren't. I play both evenly.. (Mostly Score Attack now, Firefight Arcade is full of AFKers, 90% of 'em are host/downloading -blam!-/are there, but don't leave the spawn area.. It slows down gameplay. I'd rather have the whole team playing. More AFKers = Longer games. Longer games = Less credits for me in the long run)

Matchmaking.. I agree. Quitters need to have harsher punishments. However, Bungie isn't in charge anymore. Hopefully 343 will do a better job at "Policing" the community.


I do play firefight and afk'rs are not much of a problem, more kills fore me really and someone to draw fire away from me.
Quitters ARE whats ruinging my game.
It happens in every team gam not just btb and not just when I have a full party.

  • 07.05.2011 6:32 AM PDT

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Posted by: Jamage007

Posted by: ajincamelot
If you play firefight more than matchmaking, then AFKers are a problem for you. If not, then they aren't. I play both evenly.. (Mostly Score Attack now, Firefight Arcade is full of AFKers, 90% of 'em are host/downloading -blam!-/are there, but don't leave the spawn area.. It slows down gameplay. I'd rather have the whole team playing. More AFKers = Longer games. Longer games = Less credits for me in the long run)

Matchmaking.. I agree. Quitters need to have harsher punishments. However, Bungie isn't in charge anymore. Hopefully 343 will do a better job at "Policing" the community.


I do play firefight and afk'rs are not much of a problem, more kills fore me really and someone to draw fire away from me.
Quitters ARE whats ruinging my game.
It happens in every team gam not just btb and not just when I have a full party.


"More kills for me" At the cost of longer games.

  • 07.05.2011 6:36 AM PDT
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Posted by: captain snoopy
i dont think there is anything bungie can do about it. people have a right to stop playing if they want to.


this.

  • 07.05.2011 6:40 AM PDT