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Subject: Do You Accept Cryptum as Canon?

To me sounds rather derpy.

  • 05.28.2011 7:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: ParagonRenegade
You were totally and absolutely correct in every way, I don't know why we were arguing, you're so amazing I should never have doubted you.

Yes. Cryptum is more worthy of being canon than Halo: Reach or Halo Legends by far. It's easily the best Halo novel written to date.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

I am seriously about to enter rage mode.


cryptum is probably the best source of canon to date with no flaws whatsoever.

  • 05.28.2011 7:39 PM PDT

http://www.halo-forum.com

Of course Cryptum is canon.

  • 05.28.2011 7:41 PM PDT

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Hear the word of Pharaoh. Build unto me a statue of ridiculous proportion. One billion cubits in height......that I might be remembered for all eternity!

And be quick about it!

It's cannon but the stuff about the number of rings confused me, and why didn't the Ark rebuild the destroyed ones like it did with Installation 04? Why does the Citidel only have 7 holograms? I hope the next 2 books answer these questions and perhaps explore the origins of the Flood.

  • 05.28.2011 7:41 PM PDT

Yes, of course, duh :P

Anything the holder (or holders in Bungie's case) has put out under their watch or declared canon is completely and one hundred percent canon unless otherwise stated by them...whether we like what they've done or not.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: Madmaxepic
It's cannon but the stuff about the number of rings confused me, and why didn't the Ark rebuild the destroyed ones like it did with Installation 04? Why does the Citidel only have 7 holograms? I hope the next 2 books answer these questions and perhaps explore the origins of the Flood.


I think people qestion its canonical value because they don't understand it.


The rings in cryptum were the original 12 that took about 10,000 years to build. the 12 were suppose to be use to fight the flood in systems (think halo but on a solar scale).

After they were destroyed the ark was already making another batch of 7 rings which are the rings we know of. The Ark only has 7 rings becuase the idea to wipe out the galaxy has came up yet in cryptum.

  • 05.28.2011 7:47 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Cryptum is my favorite piece of canon.

Amazing story. Amazing Characters. Amazing everything.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: privet caboose
Cryptum is my favorite piece of canon.

Amazing story. Amazing Characters. Amazing everything.


Same here.

  • 05.28.2011 7:52 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101
I am seriously about to enter rage mode.


cryptum is probably the best source of canon to date with no flaws whatsoever.


Agreed. Greg Bear is an amazing writer. Besides, it's such an unexplored part of the universe, it doesn't step on the toes of anything. Canon = Yes... very yes.

  • 05.28.2011 7:52 PM PDT

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Posted by: grey101
I am seriously about to enter rage mode.


cryptum is probably the best source of canon to date with no flaws whatsoever.

In complete agreement. It was a fantastic book.

  • 05.28.2011 7:53 PM PDT
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I am...whimsical today.

It has the benefit of having almost nothing else to undermine it, other than perhaps the Terminal texts from H3.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: Guscon
It has the benefit of having almost nothing else to undermine it, other than perhaps the Terminal texts from H3.



which we haven't gotten to yet in the story, or had to be pushed around slightly for the story.

  • 05.28.2011 7:57 PM PDT

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The story is amazing, I've read it two times and I'm re-reading it for a third time. I devoured the book!

  • 05.28.2011 8:15 PM PDT

Citizens of Me! The cruelty of the old Pharaoh is a thing of the past. Let a whole new wave of cruelty wash over this lazy land.

Hear the word of Pharaoh. Build unto me a statue of ridiculous proportion. One billion cubits in height......that I might be remembered for all eternity!

And be quick about it!


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Posted by: Madmaxepic
It's cannon but the stuff about the number of rings confused me, and why didn't the Ark rebuild the destroyed ones like it did with Installation 04? Why does the Citidel only have 7 holograms? I hope the next 2 books answer these questions and perhaps explore the origins of the Flood.


I think people qestion its canonical value because they don't understand it.


The rings in cryptum were the original 12 that took about 10,000 years to build. the 12 were suppose to be use to fight the flood in systems (think halo but on a solar scale).

After they were destroyed the ark was already making another batch of 7 rings which are the rings we know of. The Ark only has 7 rings becuase the idea to wipe out the galaxy has came up yet in cryptum.


The book seemed to state there were already 6 rings there and the 7th arrived through the portal, one of the 12 original rings. It would seem that the 12 original rings were actually of a different size then the rings in the series, since they were described as 30,000 km across (unless this was a mistake or typo) whereas the series rings were only 10,000 km across.

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Yes, Cryptum is 110% canon.

Currently rereading it right now..... AND ABSOLUTELY LOVING IT.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: Madmaxepic

Posted by: grey101

Posted by: Madmaxepic
It's cannon but the stuff about the number of rings confused me, and why didn't the Ark rebuild the destroyed ones like it did with Installation 04? Why does the Citidel only have 7 holograms? I hope the next 2 books answer these questions and perhaps explore the origins of the Flood.


I think people qestion its canonical value because they don't understand it.


The rings in cryptum were the original 12 that took about 10,000 years to build. the 12 were suppose to be use to fight the flood in systems (think halo but on a solar scale).

After they were destroyed the ark was already making another batch of 7 rings which are the rings we know of. The Ark only has 7 rings becuase the idea to wipe out the galaxy has came up yet in cryptum.


The book seemed to state there were already 6 rings there and the 7th arrived through the portal, one of the 12 original rings. It would seem that the 12 original rings were actually of a different size then the rings in the series, since they were described as 30,000 km across (unless this was a mistake or typo) whereas the series rings were only 10,000 km across.


whoops i posted wrong.

8 rings were being made at the Ark then the one ring arrived via portal with MB still in control of his ring.

thats why i said they are different rings.

  • 05.28.2011 8:22 PM PDT

Citizens of Me! The cruelty of the old Pharaoh is a thing of the past. Let a whole new wave of cruelty wash over this lazy land.

Hear the word of Pharaoh. Build unto me a statue of ridiculous proportion. One billion cubits in height......that I might be remembered for all eternity!

And be quick about it!


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: Madmaxepic

Posted by: grey101

Posted by: Madmaxepic
It's cannon but the stuff about the number of rings confused me, and why didn't the Ark rebuild the destroyed ones like it did with Installation 04? Why does the Citidel only have 7 holograms? I hope the next 2 books answer these questions and perhaps explore the origins of the Flood.


I think people qestion its canonical value because they don't understand it.


The rings in cryptum were the original 12 that took about 10,000 years to build. the 12 were suppose to be use to fight the flood in systems (think halo but on a solar scale).

After they were destroyed the ark was already making another batch of 7 rings which are the rings we know of. The Ark only has 7 rings becuase the idea to wipe out the galaxy has came up yet in cryptum.


The book seemed to state there were already 6 rings there and the 7th arrived through the portal, one of the 12 original rings. It would seem that the 12 original rings were actually of a different size then the rings in the series, since they were described as 30,000 km across (unless this was a mistake or typo) whereas the series rings were only 10,000 km across.


whoops i posted wrong.

8 rings were being made at the Ark then the one ring arrived via portal with MB still in control of his ring.

thats why i said they are different rings.


Did you mean 6 rings were being made? If there were 8 that would make 9.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: Madmaxepic

Posted by: grey101

Posted by: Madmaxepic

Posted by: grey101

Posted by: Madmaxepic
It's cannon but the stuff about the number of rings confused me, and why didn't the Ark rebuild the destroyed ones like it did with Installation 04? Why does the Citidel only have 7 holograms? I hope the next 2 books answer these questions and perhaps explore the origins of the Flood.


I think people qestion its canonical value because they don't understand it.


The rings in cryptum were the original 12 that took about 10,000 years to build. the 12 were suppose to be use to fight the flood in systems (think halo but on a solar scale).

After they were destroyed the ark was already making another batch of 7 rings which are the rings we know of. The Ark only has 7 rings becuase the idea to wipe out the galaxy has came up yet in cryptum.


The book seemed to state there were already 6 rings there and the 7th arrived through the portal, one of the 12 original rings. It would seem that the 12 original rings were actually of a different size then the rings in the series, since they were described as 30,000 km across (unless this was a mistake or typo) whereas the series rings were only 10,000 km across.


whoops i posted wrong.

8 rings were being made at the Ark then the one ring arrived via portal with MB still in control of his ring.

thats why i said they are different rings.


Did you mean 6 rings were being made? If there were 8 that would make 9.


8 rings were finishing production at the ark becuase the DIdact said there was one ring on each end of the Ark and there are 8 ends.

  • 05.28.2011 8:50 PM PDT

Citizens of Me! The cruelty of the old Pharaoh is a thing of the past. Let a whole new wave of cruelty wash over this lazy land.

Hear the word of Pharaoh. Build unto me a statue of ridiculous proportion. One billion cubits in height......that I might be remembered for all eternity!

And be quick about it!


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: Madmaxepic

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Posted by: Madmaxepic
It's cannon but the stuff about the number of rings confused me, and why didn't the Ark rebuild the destroyed ones like it did with Installation 04? Why does the Citidel only have 7 holograms? I hope the next 2 books answer these questions and perhaps explore the origins of the Flood.[/quote]

I think people qestion its canonical value because they don't understand it.


The rings in cryptum were the original 12 that took about 10,000 years to build. the 12 were suppose to be use to fight the flood in systems (think halo but on a solar scale).

After they were destroyed the ark was already making another batch of 7 rings which are the rings we know of. The Ark only has 7 rings becuase the idea to wipe out the galaxy has came up yet in cryptum. [/quote]

The book seemed to state there were already 6 rings there and the 7th arrived through the portal, one of the 12 original rings. It would seem that the 12 original rings were actually of a different size then the rings in the series, since they were described as 30,000 km across (unless this was a mistake or typo) whereas the series rings were only 10,000 km across.


whoops i posted wrong.

8 rings were being made at the Ark then the one ring arrived via portal with MB still in control of his ring.

thats why i said they are different rings.


Did you mean 6 rings were being made? If there were 8 that would make 9.


8 rings were finishing production at the ark becuase the DIdact said there was one ring on each end of the Ark and there are 8 ends.


I think you may be mistaken for I just read the end of the book an hour or 2 ago and I recall it saying there were 6 there plus the 7th one which arrived through the portal. But I could be mistaken.


Edit: The following is from Halopedia:
"Twelve Halos were commissioned by the Master Builder, Faber, but only one of them survived to be used in the Forerunners' final plan. Another array of six installations remained under the Librarian's control at Installation 00."

[Edited on 05.28.2011 9:19 PM PDT]

  • 05.28.2011 9:10 PM PDT

Ah, someone leaked. Now to find the leak and.... plug it.
With justice.

I use coup 5
Never Played halo 1 = Invalid opinion
Bloom isn't whats broken, its your idea of what good is and your opinion
Thats like saying uber nerf armor lock because like 20 percent of the community hates it. Oh wait..................

Yeah i think its cannon, unless it gets trumped by a game.

  • 05.28.2011 9:10 PM PDT

Of course we do. Cryptum is awesome.

  • 05.28.2011 9:12 PM PDT

Duh

  • 05.28.2011 9:13 PM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Well yeah because, well, it is canon. I don't like it, but I accept that that's what has become of the Haloverse now.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: Madmaxepic

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Posted by: Madmaxepic
It's cannon but the stuff about the number of rings confused me, and why didn't the Ark rebuild the destroyed ones like it did with Installation 04? Why does the Citidel only have 7 holograms? I hope the next 2 books answer these questions and perhaps explore the origins of the Flood.[/quote]

I think people qestion its canonical value because they don't understand it.


The rings in cryptum were the original 12 that took about 10,000 years to build. the 12 were suppose to be use to fight the flood in systems (think halo but on a solar scale).

After they were destroyed the ark was already making another batch of 7 rings which are the rings we know of. The Ark only has 7 rings becuase the idea to wipe out the galaxy has came up yet in cryptum. [/quote]

The book seemed to state there were already 6 rings there and the 7th arrived through the portal, one of the 12 original rings. It would seem that the 12 original rings were actually of a different size then the rings in the series, since they were described as 30,000 km across (unless this was a mistake or typo) whereas the series rings were only 10,000 km across.


whoops i posted wrong.

8 rings were being made at the Ark then the one ring arrived via portal with MB still in control of his ring.

thats why i said they are different rings.


Did you mean 6 rings were being made? If there were 8 that would make 9.


8 rings were finishing production at the ark becuase the DIdact said there was one ring on each end of the Ark and there are 8 ends.


I think you may be mistaken for I just read the end of the book an hour or 2 ago and I recall it saying there were 6 there plus the 7th one which arrived through the portal. But I could be mistaken.


Edit: The following is from Halopedia:
"Twelve Halos were commissioned by the Master Builder, Faber, but only one of them survived to be used in the Forerunners' final plan. Another array of six installations remained under the Librarian's control at Installation 00."


page 333 states that each petal had a ring and unless i am not clear on what he means by "petal" i count each of the branches as one thus 8 rings.

I've read the book 3 times now so don't feed me halopedia not to mention it isn't a prime source especially for cryptum knowledge.

  • 05.28.2011 10:00 PM PDT