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Posted by: Wazooty
Posted by: Techno Greek
Posted by: Wazooty
Posted by: Techno Greek
Here's something interesting: Cryptum is convoluted, stupid drivel that has no place in the Halo canon and irreversibly damaged the awesome story that was in place before it came along, even if it had errors before.
I don't care if it doesn't rewrite or contradict anything. I don't care if the dialog in the games can be warped to fit the new story. I care that everyone seems to think that sticking new, stupid backstory into every place it can fit isn't as bad as completely rewriting it. It is.
The Forerunners didn't engineer the Flood as pets. Humanity weren't servants to the Forerunners, and didn't get "devolved" by them for whatever goddammed reason. The Prophets, Elites, and every other species in the Covenant were pre-industrial at the time of the Halo's firing, and never had any knowing contact with the Forerunners. You know how I know this? Because I've been a fan for ten years and have a brain in my head.
If something sucks, don't include it. It's as simple as that. The Forerunner's conflict with The Flood never should have had an in-depth novel to begin with. You know why? Because they were mysterious.
It's clear that nobody in the Universe forum seems to take continuity seriously. Or writing seriously, for that matter. Stealing a story's grace to fill in a few gaps makes for a dead, bloated work. Greg Bear killed it, guys.
If you played the games and made inferences as to what the Forerunners were, why the Covenant attacked humanity, ect, maybe read The Fall of Reach and Nylund's other two, non-intrusive novels (his novels never destroyed anything, only built the characters and made the universe tick a little better so don't even start with the "you can't say it about Nylund without saying it about Bear" crap), then you know the story.
I don't think anyone had a problem figuring out 1. Humanity are Forerunner (only we can activate their tech), 2. The Covenant went to war because the Prophets realized this and were trying hard to cover their asses (why else? They just force all other species to join), and 3., once again, the Species of the Covenant were all pre-industrial at the time of the Halos firing and had no part in wars, servitude, or trade (that's -blam!- retarded) with Forerunners pre-activation.
I don't know who's idea it was to let someone as pretentious as Bear write a Halo novel, but they need to be shot.
Lol. You deny everything for no actual reason other than just to deny it.
No, you never knew any of that, sorry. Keep lying to yourself since it makes you feel better, I guess.
Sorry if things are more complex than you anticipated, I know it's tough to comprehend something such as humanity not being forerunner, etc. Not every story is blatantly straightforward and predictable. That's boring.
Also, you're judging a book based of paragraph summaries you've read.
Read the actual flipping book before you comment on it. Things make a lot more sense when actually read in the context they were made. And much of the stuff still has to be explained. You just seem to like filling in wrong answers though...Making something more "complicated" doesn't make it any less retarded. Which Cryputm did. Playing through the games, while acknowledging Cryptum as the backstory to what I'm doing...ugh. It's impossible to take seriously.
You mean the summaries you've read online of Crytum? It's much easier to take seriously if you actually read the book.I tried to read the book. Couldn't get into Bear's descriptive style; he seems to be very, very pretentious, and I couldn't take his descriptions seriously. I'll have to try it again sometime. And then come back here, armed with better ways to say that Cryptum ruined the series.
Edit: Okay, maybe I've been harsh and nonsensical in my arguments. I've been awake for a long time, and I know I'm not typing as well as I should, or explaining things in ways that actually communicate what I'm saying.
If I can pick it up cheap, I'll read Cryptum and come back. So far, though, I don't like any of Greg Bear's ideas, plot-points, or even names concerning the Forerunner. Maybe I'll change my mind, maybe not.
[Edited on 06.03.2011 11:03 PM PDT]