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Subject: Forget the CE Remake, I Want Halo 2 HD
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  • 05.29.2011 8:38 AM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Our faces when "Halo: HD" turns out to be a Halo CE and Halo 2 combined game. Dual HD Campaign with Halo 2 multiplayer and all Halo CE maps included.

  • 05.29.2011 8:50 AM PDT
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It's a matter of opinion. I prefer Halo CE campagn over Halo 2.

Comparing the first missions. Both were pretty similar. From gameplay perspective I prefer Pillar of Autumn but Cairo Stations end cutscene was just badass.

New Mombasa was nice but I like much more the guerilla combat on CE. Blasting everything away with a tank is always cool but blasting everything away with a pistol is always hundred times cooler.

Delta Halo doesn't sum up Halo. Halo is too versatile to be summed up by any mission.

The Library of Halo CE is the most successful Flood mission across every game. It isn't annoying, it's challenging. Surviving against Flood while Guilty Spark is away is where you get to feel the real horror of the Flood.

About High Charity I must agree on everything except the end. Breaking Benjamin is okay but I like kicking some Covenant ass in the freezing canyons on Assault on the Control Room while listening some of the best and most iconic songs in Halo.

The final mission. Racing against time with a Warthog inside a ship that is about to blow up is just so much cooler than fighting against an ape that can take impossible amounts of shots. I won't lie, fighting against Tartarus was the most frustrating thing in history of Halo.

Halo 2 had it's moments and incredibly kick ass cutscenes but Halo CE just had the perfect atmosphere and gameplay. I would go as far as say that Halo CE sums up what Halo is the best, guerilla combat against the Covenant against giant ring. That's what Halo is and will always be to me.

P.S. I assume you haven't played Halo CE a lot as you don't seem to remember the names of the missions.

  • 05.29.2011 9:13 AM PDT
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Posted by: Shadow 13th
I really shouldn't forget to mention CE's final mission, POA. It was really, really awesome and memorable. That mission and the second mission were the best for me.

I've played CE from start to finish about 6 or 7 times.

How come you don't remember names of the missions then? The last mission was named The Maw.

  • 05.29.2011 9:19 AM PDT
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Imagine a triangle. It's perfect, but a little plain. You take a chisel, and carve a small decorative symbol into it to make it a little more interesting. People like it, but it could use a little more.

So you then take a sledgehammer..


Posted by: Shadow 13th
The idea of a Combat Evolved remake is kinda cool. But Halo 2 excites me more. Think about all of the awesome things you could revisit in Halo 2 like:

1. The first mission is actually really good. CE started with a spaceship interior being boarded sequence that had you going through tunnels with your torch on. Halo 2 had you fighting in a much more interesting environment. You fought inside the MAC cannon and even outside as it's defending Earth.

2. Giving the Covenant back their bomb.

3. New Mombassa. From the moment SGT Johnson says "Dear humanity, we regret being alien bastards" to the point where you're fighting along side him on the rooftops you know this mission is great. Going through the long tunnels in a hog, the city streets, big open skirmishes with Elite drop pods landing, hotel interiors, jackal snipers. New Mombassa is freakin epic.

4. Rolling across that bridge and blowing up any inhuman son of a -blam!- stupid enough to get between the Chief and the Prophet of regret. The Bridge scene! Decimating an entire Covenant vehicle swarm then taking on the scarab in the city streets.

5. Delta Halo. This mission alone sums up Halo. Strapping into an ODST drop pod and hitting the ground on a Halo ring surrounded by ODSTs, cruising around on the hog, more bridge crossing. Indoor, outdoor vehicle combat. The massive ocean crossing Forerunner gondolas. Getting to beat a prohpet to death with your bare hands. Delta Halo, nuff said.

6. The Library. I mean, the enjoyable Library. Retrieving the index in amidst a 3 way war between the Covenant, Flood and humanity while the scenery BURNS is better than CE which has you following Guilty Spark through the most annoying mission in Halo history. Crossing that massive devide on the floating control panel. The scale of this battle, indoor and out is epic and satisfying and full of unforgettable moments.

7. High Charity, the Master Chief just walks in to the Covenant capital, alone ... and starts kicking ass! While the civil war between Elites and Brutes breaks out you trudge through the whole war to the sounds of Breaking Benjamin. Truly Halo at it's best.

8. The final mission. You, as the Arbiter invading Halo's control room. Teaming up with Hunters, teaming up with Hunters ... and SGT Johnson ... SGT Johnson who's driving a Scarab!!! It's truly magic, massive vehicular engagements, stealth, CQC.

Sure, CE had it's moments. Mission 2 was good, exploring Halo in a hog and the snow mission was good. But there's a lot of backtracking, repetitive copy and paste level design and annoying, ANNOYING flood.

Halo 2 had a campaign to remember, a truly epic conflict spanning earth, Halo and the Covenant capital city. There's no place in which you don't kick ass.

I'd buy a Halo 2 remake over a CE remake ANY day of the week.


Agreed, or at least for the campaign.

  • 05.29.2011 9:38 AM PDT


Posted by: privet caboose
Our faces when "Halo: HD" turns out to be a Halo CE and Halo 2 combined game. Dual HD Campaign with Halo 2 multiplayer and all Halo CE maps included.



Like I've been asking for, for quite a while now:
Halo CE's campaign remade in HD (and updated controls, physics, etc, just to bring it up to date again without adding new stuff)
But with H2's multiplayer.

H2 is my favorite Halo, but I don't care for a remake of its campaign. Only thing they can really improve on there, is the graphics...whereas CE really hasn't aged that well unfortunatly.

  • 05.29.2011 9:48 AM PDT
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Posted by: Shadow 13th
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Posted by: Shadow 13th
I really shouldn't forget to mention CE's final mission, POA. It was really, really awesome and memorable. That mission and the second mission were the best for me.

I've played CE from start to finish about 6 or 7 times.

How come you don't remember names of the missions then? The last mission was named The Maw.


I don't even remember the names of the missions for Halo 2, just the places they took place. I don't even remember the names of the Halo 3 missions to be honest. I know all the Reach ones since they are used a lot in the challenges.

Ah, I thought you knew Halo 2 missions as you named them in the OP but that's probably because most of them were named by the place they took place. I don't mean to brag but personally I remember name of every campaign mission and almost every multiplayer map. That's the side effect of playing too much Halo. :)

  • 05.29.2011 9:51 AM PDT

I laugh at your pitifall attempts to defeat me!

If they remade the Halo 2 campaign they should add the missions and features they had no time to include; such as the actual boarding of the Covenant carrier to plant the bomb. Also, that mission with the Forerunner tank.

  • 05.29.2011 9:56 AM PDT

Head Down/ Chin Up!

Halo 2 was actually my favourite storyline of the lot (despite the ending)

I always thought it would have been a great idea to incorporate the "give the covenant back their bomb" scene into gameplay! You would be guiding the bomb on a sort of freefall through space, avoiding debris and ship battles as you head to the covenant cruiser.

And the whole Forerunner Tank level at the end would have improved the ending of the game at least! So if they WERE to remake it i wouldnt mind seeing these additions, but cant see 343 listening to little ol me!

  • 05.29.2011 10:25 AM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Better idea, 343 Industries should skip the remakes and wow us with Halo 4.

  • 05.29.2011 10:27 AM PDT

Silence fills the empty grave, now that I have gone
But my mind is not at rest, for questions linger on


Posted by: privet caboose
Our faces when "Halo: HD" turns out to be a Halo CE and Halo 2 combined game. Dual HD Campaign with Halo 2 multiplayer and all Halo CE maps included.



ALL OF MY MONEY!

  • 05.29.2011 10:43 AM PDT

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This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

I´d be happy as long as we get the Halo 2 Multiplayer experience in HD.

  • 05.29.2011 11:01 AM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Better idea, 343 Industries should skip the remakes and wow us with Halo 4.


It was my impression this was there standpoint anyway :D.

  • 05.29.2011 11:04 AM PDT

HD means the game is all about the graphics. And Halo 2 has far more use for current-gen environments. Metropolis, Delta Halo and Quarantine Zone would all look gorgeous with H3/R-level graphics. Halo 1's scenery is far more minimalistic, and there really isn't much to improve on.

  • 05.29.2011 12:10 PM PDT

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"Do not mistake your rank and number for superiority. The oldest child may learn from the youngest."

Halo: The only franchise that re-releases the same thing every two to five years.

If you want to play Halo 2, go buy a copy and play it. You can even play online with other people through XBConnect. So why do you want a remake exactly?

And no, saying you want "HD graphics" is not a good reason. If anything, it's entirely lazy on the parts of both the developer and the consumer to justify remaking a game based on that single criteria.

[Edited on 05.29.2011 12:39 PM PDT]

  • 05.29.2011 12:26 PM PDT

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It would probably be a Halo CE and Halo 2 remake anyways. And I have to agree with the OP, although it's my opinion, I think Delta Halo is the best mission in Halo. Ever.

The music, design, and just the atmosphere in general was just amazing.

  • 05.29.2011 12:39 PM PDT

I am the Sharpshooter

Same. Personally I would prefer a Halo 2 Remake. In my opinion, Halo 2's campaign is the best. I just love storming through High Charity, and then the Breaking Benjamin music at the end. The fight for New mombassa at the start of the game is also great.

  • 05.29.2011 12:49 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Posted by: Placid Platypus
Halo: The only franchise that re-releases the same thing every two to five years.

If you want to play Halo 2, go buy a copy and play it. You can even play online with other people through XBConnect. So why do you want a remake exactly?

And no, saying you want "HD graphics" is not a good reason. If anything, it's entirely lazy on the parts of both the developer and the consumer to justify remaking a game based on that single criteria.


If the consumers want remakes, and are willing to pay for them, what's the problem?

It's a win-win situation.

Also, we want are regular online play back, not xbox connect. Sorry.

  • 05.29.2011 1:03 PM PDT

Citizens of Me! The cruelty of the old Pharaoh is a thing of the past. Let a whole new wave of cruelty wash over this lazy land.

Hear the word of Pharaoh. Build unto me a statue of ridiculous proportion. One billion cubits in height......that I might be remembered for all eternity!

And be quick about it!


Posted by: privet caboose
Our faces when "Halo: HD" turns out to be a Halo CE and Halo 2 combined game. Dual HD Campaign with Halo 2 multiplayer and all Halo CE maps included.



*nerdgasm*

*sips bacon*

  • 05.29.2011 1:14 PM PDT
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Posted by: privet caboose
Our faces when "Halo: HD" turns out to be a Halo CE and Halo 2 combined game. Dual HD Campaign with Halo 2 multiplayer and all Halo CE maps included.

You just blew my mind.

  • 05.29.2011 1:34 PM PDT

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Posted by: privet caboose
Our faces when "Halo: HD" turns out to be a Halo CE and Halo 2 combined game. Dual HD Campaign with Halo 2 multiplayer and all Halo CE maps included.

You just blew my mind.


Halo CE maps suck compared the quality we expect now.

They are blocky and empty. Halo 2 had superb maps.

  • 05.29.2011 2:30 PM PDT
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WTF

HEll NO!

Halo 2 multiplayer is a fecking monstrosity.

Maybe not soo bad when ur system linking and playing against GOOD players who camp more and play strategically, like MLG =)

but the Match Making is absolutely HORRID.

A) they Took away the lead time bullet pistol of CE, and replaced it with hitScan battle rifle so 3 year olds can aim.
Dont know what hit scan is? DMR is Hit scan as well. Google it.
Halo 3 PWNS Halo 2 multi. The BR was lead time =)

B) The sniper was WAY over assisted. They even had to launch an update downing the sniper assist LOL no one remembers?

C) They introduced multiple power weapons making it EASIER to kill. Swords? Dual wielding? Brute shots? Duel needler lolol (like fighting slightly harder grunts)
Wheres the Freaking true skill? hit scan battle rifle that hits every time?

D) Lunge whack? WTF is that? Remember DOUBLE whack when you actually had to try hard to get the whack? now we can lunge 50 feet!

E) "Cancel" as in bXr or sword canceling lol.... actually, that was kinda skilled. i liked that =)

F) bunny hopping. People running around in swat who seem like their "A" button is glued down. And they loved jumping rly high cuz it makes it challenging for opponents to aim higher than a human can literally jump =P

G) SMG + Plasma rifle Duel wield.

OK

One of my friends was the worst freaking Player ever. Couldn't kill in CE if his pubic hair depended on it.
When H2 came out and my group of friends went online, this particular friend discovered Duel wield... and not only duel wield, he discovered SMG + Plasma rifle.
in a 4v4 total kill count 50, he would make up 30+ kills (and deaths LOL) but he was actually able to kill now and was happy.
It was worse when he would find the swords and start Braging

"HOLY SHAT I JUST GOT A DOUBLE KILL YOU ALL F**ING SUCK IM THE BEST PLAYER EVER CUZ I GET DOUBLE KILLS ALL THE TIME"

We would all make fun of him cuz he would have alot of deaths. Point being, HIS name was on top of the score bored.

And thats Just it.
Halo 2 MATCH MAKING was made for those who couldn't play CE. For those who dont know what physics is and just wanna run around whacking people throwing grenades at their allies who are fighting, killing allies and the enemy and taking the kill point.
hmm.. sounds like im describing Reach here...

But on Xbox Live matchmaking, doesn't matter how good you are. Newbs can kill you with Ease with the millions of options in the game.
For Halo CE online, I would Join peoples host on Xbox Connect and get THEM to quit for the ass whooping they'd receive.


"tsassi2" I totally agree with you on everything about CE campaign. It was more memorable.



But in all honestly, They MAPS made it easier to run from weapons fire, and the New play style, Just made it easier for people to get kills.
Halo 2 introduced the whole new idea "So new players and Elite players can kill each other alike, No one stands out" Sorta thing.

My thoughts anyways

[Edited on 05.29.2011 2:54 PM PDT]

  • 05.29.2011 2:34 PM PDT

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