Posted by: S_034
Posted by: ThePredkiller2
Okay, but that doesn't necessarily mean he liked Ackerson. It doesn't necessarily mean that he liked Ackerson, but we've got nothing to indicate that he disliked Ackerson, either. Think about this. For who knows how long, Ackerson has been 312's only real symbol of authority. Spartan-312 has been getting anything and everything he has in life from and through Ackerson, and Ackerson knows it. Ackerson may be an evil d-bag, but he's not an idiot. If you've got a personal assassin, possibly the most effective personal assassin the galaxy has ever seen, are you gonna piss him off? Ackerson has every reason to keep S-312 happy with him. It's good for Ackerson, and therefore it's safe to assume that Ackerson did everything in his power to make sure that was the case.
People in his position of power, and with his personality, really don't care about pissing anyone off as long as they get what they want. If what you are saying is even remotely close to the truth, then why would Ackerson care about pissing off Six if he is getting what he wants? The SPARTANS were his brainchild, and he would get the credit.
He was most likely just following orders. And? Personal feelings are pretty much irrelevant as long as he's still willing to follow orders.
Yep, and SPARTANS are conditioned from birth to follow orders. Its not his fault. He's conditioned to do it, even if he doesn't want to.
Maybe the reason he stayed behind to die is because he felt regret, For? He's a soldier. He follows orders. Ackerson's been giving those orders, presumably with good justifications to back them up. He follows those orders, everything stays copacetic. He's got nothing to burden his conscience. Never mind the fact that from most of the descriptions we've gotten, 312 is a borderline psychopath with a penchant for murder-face. The idea that he sacrificed himself out of guilt doesn't fly, because there's no guilt there.
Well, "your" Noble Six, maybe, but "my" Noble Six has a degree of Humanity. If "my" Noble Six was aware of Ackerson's scheming, and he would, he is a bright fella, even after he followed Ackerson's orders as he was conditioned to do, he would still have felt a sting of guilt and self-loathing on a level he'd never felt before for killing a squad of his SPARTAN brothers. "My" Noble Six would make it a personal mission to make sure Ackerson's evil never left Reach.
and he didn't want Ackerson to receive fame for his accomplishments, so he died. Seems believable to me? What are your thoughts on this? Why would he care? It's not like Ackerson's somehow getting fame for S-312's accomplishments prior to Reach. Ackerson isn't taking Noble Six's accomplishments, like singlehandedly demolishing Innie militias, and saying "I did that." Nobody would buy that, because Ackerson's a desk jockey. Never mind the fact that even if it was about credit or accomplishments, Ackerson's got a better chance of taking credit now that 312's dead than when he was alive, because when he was alive they could have just given him the credit.
See above posts.
Never mind the fact that what you say doesn't explain the scenario presented to us by the last level.
By the way, I think you're taking what I'm saying in the complete opposite direction I was pushing it. I actually liked your theory, there were some parts I disagreed with, but for the most part I agree. I just don't think Noble Six is a heartless killing machine, even if he is working with Ackerson. My Noble Six was just stuck under his leadership against his own will, and is a good, kind-hearted soul. Other than that, none of what I have said has contradicted your idea...
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[Edited on 06.07.2011 2:59 PM PDT]