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Same for the "Jetpack" whining.
ITS NOT A JETPACK....its a Thruster Pack, which is standard issue for every MJOLNIR MK. 5 (and up) suits. Chief had it on him ALL THE TIME. Its even being used in many of the books.
Wrong. We need to squash this now, because it is not so. If the Spartans had thruster packs built into their suits, they would not need to don external t-packs for EVA missions, which they do every time.
Not wrong actually. Have you read the books? The thruster packs on the armor were so the Spartans could move around in Low/Zero Gravity situations, and not just drift into space. Either way it's in there, so let's squash any pointless debate about that. Instead we should try to think of awesome ways they could have Low/Zero Gravity combat in game.
I would suggest rereading the fall of reach, if their suits had thrusters, then why couldn't James use them to get back to the station and wipe the Circumference?
It's because of James' external thruster pack that he could not get to the station. His pack was shot by a needler. The tank for the thruster was punctured and the exhaust from that was what sent James spiraling out of control and into the darkness of space.
The standard Mk IV and Mk V had no internal thrusters period. They used external packs. There is zero proof to say otherwise while on the other hand there is concrete evidence to show that the Spartans did rely on external packs. To repost what I've said before....
The Fall of Reach page 144:
"Spartans," John said, "grab thruster packs and make ready to go EVA. Everyone else-" He motioned to the three technicians.
"-get into the forward cabin. If we fail, they'll be coming after the Pelican. Protect Dr. Halsey."
He moved Aft. Kelly handed him a thruster pack and he slipped it on.
That was for Mark IV armor. No integrated thruster pack.
Page 348:
James almost had the explosives rigged to the nose free. A shower of needles hit him. One stuck the tank of his thruster harness-penetrated.
Obviously if it was integrated there wouldn't be a harness for the thing since it's built right into the armor. Further down the same page:
Linda shrugged out of her thruster harness.
No need to delve into how that shows it's a separate piece. That's for Mk V.
As for the Mk VI I do not have the Halo Encyclopedia on me currently so I cannot directly quote it, but I know that of all the features listed of the Mk VI, there is no mention of an integrated thruster pack included in the standard issue Mk VI that the Chief possessed. By all means though, if you have it on you and you know it says otherwise provide quotes and page numbers.
Mark VI isn't V
Halsey journal says it has EVA capabilities,so it's probably those thrusters.
First off I'm aware that Mark VI isn't V, however the first two chunk of quotes is directed primarily for the people that go off saying that Mark IV and V had built in thrusters as standard equipment. Simple canon cleaning up.
Second off, the debate for whether or not standard Mark VI has it is still wide open as there is no definitive proof for either side in this regard with the only visual sight of it being a teaser trailer. Now, being a teaser trailer everything is subjected to change so that cannot be counted as anything until the visuals develop more until the final version.
Until then, I seek the truth when it comes to all the text based descriptions of the Mk VI armor, and to get that clarified not for just myself but for everyone as well. This is first and foremost the Universe forum after all where canon discussion is front and center, and not the "let's speculate how awesome or stupid Halo 4 is going to be based on visuals" forum.
Now in regards to Mk VI I'm aware of Halsey's entry. Listed as "Next-gen EVA technology". However it is not a list of what the Mk VI has, but a plan for what it should have. Among the list of items is also an "Active stealth package" and Covenant based gravity tech. Even the extent of what those next-gen EVA tech could be is never delved into. The only visual EVA tech we've seen are the armor permutations as well as the physical descriptions of the external thrusters the UNSC had available for EVA activity. As I've said earlier the Encyclopedia makes no note of that specific bit of EVA technology being available to the standard Mk VI that John possess, and while 343i can quite easily recton the Universe to make it so with little to no problem the key is that at this particular moment in time, that specific has yet to be outlined unless otherwise unmentioned.
I don't exactly have every little nook and cranny of knowledge of the Halo Universe as it currently stands, which is why I ask for simple decisive (and no, quoting Halopedian and saying it's cited to the Halo 4 trailer does not count) evidence from community members who may have that information.
Halsey says that Mk IV had EVA capabilities to John as well. EVA capabilities do not automatically translate to having a built in thruster pack.