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Subject: Remake is Campaign only.
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I was so hoping for the original multiplayer to be back but well, at least they didn't change the campaign gameplay. I wanted to play Halo CE again, but am completely fine with campaign only. But then again, I see no reason why they couldn't add the multiplayer. In case you didn't notice, it was exactly the Halo CE campaign re-skinned. Sounds, gameplay mechanics, they're all still there. 343i just changed the textures, added a few (billion) polygons and new effects. They could do the exact same thing to multiplayer.

  • 06.06.2011 12:18 PM PDT
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Time to clear things up in here.

1. its a remake of the original with updated graphice. (Reach engine)

2. On-line co-op confirmed and multiplayer. (Xbox.com)

3. Some new content to the halo universe. (Xbox.com)

  • 06.06.2011 12:24 PM PDT

this makes sense except for one thing. they show blood gulch in the trailer and it clearly looks different from hemorrhage. that means we would have 2 of the same map. thats kinda dumb. maybe the armor just moves over like on the halo 3 odst multiplayer disk. this might also include the new armor pack that ign leaked images of now that i think about it. (halo 3's recon anyone?).

  • 06.06.2011 12:27 PM PDT

Posted by: UNJO
Posted by: Spartan 355
Exactly. I looked forward to having an online Halo without armor abilities that wasn't Halo 3. Ah well, maybe with these will come a proper classic playlist instead of this watered down version we already have. Hopefully a good gametype to go with it too. Oh, and that means the classic playlist better be DLC Exclusive.


They do have a classic playlist. Its under "Community" on Reach. No Armor abilitys, only Halo: CE/Halo 2 maps.

Ugh...
Posted by: Spartan 355
...maybe with these will come a proper classic playlist instead of this watered down version we already have.

The settings available to us aren't malleable enough to make the gameplay akin enough to previous Halo titles, that is why I find it improper. Also the weapon sandbox is screwed with the 110% damage they have. 100% would be a lot better in my opinion. 343 needs to make us a version of classic that works using the tools not available to us.

  • 06.06.2011 12:35 PM PDT

What spectagon are you in?

Kind of confusing considering they said the maps would be perfect remakes. Most of the maps wouldn't really work at all with AA's. Hang 'em high with jetpacks? Completely changes the gameplay.

  • 06.06.2011 12:43 PM PDT

okays. lets clear this up. campaign is played, on the ce disc, and on that ce disc, will also be a multiplayer section, this section, will use the reach engine, and will only be played on the ce maps. these maps will also work with reach, but will be included on the ce disc aswell. you see what i am saying?

  • 06.06.2011 12:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: ShieldyPoo
U Mirin?

Why don't you do any work on your chest or legs or something? You look like a cartoon character.

Posted by: Teh Emerald
okays. lets clear this up. campaign is played, on the ce disc, and on that ce disc, will also be a multiplayer section, this section, will use the reach engine, and will only be played on the ce maps. these maps will also work with reach, but will be included on the ce disc aswell. you see what i am saying?

Wrong

Remade CE campaign
New maps for Reach multiplayer (probably a reach mp disc with the maps on them, like the Halo 3 mythic disk.)

  • 06.06.2011 12:49 PM PDT

Posted by: ShieldyPoo
Posted by: Teh Emerald
okays. lets clear this up. campaign is played, on the ce disc, and on that ce disc, will also be a multiplayer section, this section, will use the reach engine, and will only be played on the ce maps. these maps will also work with reach, but will be included on the ce disc aswell. you see what i am saying?

Wrong

Remade CE campaign
New maps for Reach multiplayer (probably a reach mp disc with the maps on them, like the Halo 3 mythic disk.)

trust me. its on the same disc. just using the reach engine.

  • 06.06.2011 12:52 PM PDT


Posted by: Vengeance417
If we can make a big enough uproar, it could be changed.


Why cause an uproar? Halo 4 comes out next year. Why the hell would they put out a completely different multiplayer to compete with Reach. If they put out a bunch of maps for Reach, then it'll make the MM experience in Reach stronger, despite all of the internet whining about things that aren't even relavent anymore. Bloom was never a real issue and AL isn't in Squad Slayer or Arena. Cry cry cry

  • 06.06.2011 12:54 PM PDT

Those leaked images were real then. :)

  • 06.06.2011 12:55 PM PDT


Posted by: ShieldyPoo
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Posted by: ridum
wrong.
No, I'm not wrong. Watch the video. It's clearly Reach being played on Halo CE maps.

Yes, because if the Reach engine is just hanging around then of course it's going to be used. Why are you complaining anyway? Reach was an awesome game.

Reach is a terrible game.

Also, Frankie just confirmed that it's Halo Reach on remade CE maps for multiplayer. AKA it's ODST v2 with the Halo CE remake.


Once again the internet cry babies will never be satisfied. Reach was a good game at least and a great game at best... go to hell cry baby

  • 06.06.2011 12:57 PM PDT


Posted by: Teh Emerald
okays. lets clear this up. campaign is played, on the ce disc, and on that ce disc, will also be a multiplayer section, this section, will use the reach engine, and will only be played on the ce maps. these maps will also work with reach, but will be included on the ce disc aswell. you see what i am saying?


Regardless of whether or not its on the same disc, the fact remains that you can use Reach mechanics (armor abilities, assassinations), as shown by the video/screenshots. That's not Halo CE.

  • 06.06.2011 1:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: ShieldyPoo
U Mirin?

Why don't you do any work on your chest or legs or something? You look like a cartoon character.

Posted by: Teh Emerald
Posted by: ShieldyPoo
Posted by: Teh Emerald
okays. lets clear this up. campaign is played, on the ce disc, and on that ce disc, will also be a multiplayer section, this section, will use the reach engine, and will only be played on the ce maps. these maps will also work with reach, but will be included on the ce disc aswell. you see what i am saying?

Wrong

Remade CE campaign
New maps for Reach multiplayer (probably a reach mp disc with the maps on them, like the Halo 3 mythic disk.)

trust me. its on the same disc. just using the reach engine.

Trust me, same disc or not, it's reach multiplayer on CE remade maps. It's an expansion pack. This has already been confirmed multiple times, so anyone saying anything otherwise is ignorant and ill-informed.

  • 06.06.2011 1:26 PM PDT

50s in: Slayer, Doubles, Lone Wolves, Objective, Ranked BTB, Swat, Snipers.

Colossal fail.

This is why I never get my hopes up with anything Halo-related anymore. The franchise is pure crap now. Nothing but a cash cow.

  • 06.06.2011 1:46 PM PDT

Look at the gallery at halo.xbox.com.
The screenshots of Damnation clearly show: Jetpacks, DMRs, Elites, Mark V[B] armor, and Armor Lock.
Definitely a Reach map pack.

  • 06.06.2011 2:03 PM PDT

Frakie stated there'd be alot of vitual Pizza parties going on. That leads me to beleive we'll be able to play clasic CE death match on the internet with our friends.

Any thoughts?

  • 06.06.2011 2:30 PM PDT

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Posted by: Quetzocoetl
Look at the gallery at halo.xbox.com.
The screenshots of Damnation clearly show: Jetpacks, DMRs, Elites, Mark V[B] armor, and Armor Lock.
Definitely a Reach map pack.


Why do armor abilities automatically mean it's a Reach map pack?
They could have just added it to Halo CE remake.

It's all just speculation now anyway... we'll just have to wait and see.

  • 06.06.2011 2:52 PM PDT

why would they add another mp when halo 3 and reach is out and halo 4 will come out a year after.

  • 06.06.2011 2:58 PM PDT


Posted by: Sir Muffinator
Kind of confusing considering they said the maps would be perfect remakes. Most of the maps wouldn't really work at all with AA's. Hang 'em high with jetpacks? Completely changes the gameplay.


GAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!

I always rage when I hear things like this.

You can change the setting when playing with your friends. Adding armor abilities changes nothing, when you can simply turn them off.

  • 06.06.2011 3:51 PM PDT
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"Combined with multiplayer maps enhanced and updated for Xbox Live" does hint at multiplayer. The trailer doesn't lead me to believe that it's two products.

  • 06.06.2011 4:30 PM PDT

this thread

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=61258718

is correct, read it before posting please.

  • 06.06.2011 4:35 PM PDT

For a start - the campaign and the matchmaking are two different things, like (as a few people have already tried to explain) ODST. For starters, does the chief's helmet look anything like the Reach mk: V? Even trimmed down, it's got the twin-cap, not the single one.

And as much as people are saying it's all reach DLC...

Does anyone remember the release of firefight? They may bring out a custom lobby for CE. No-one's saying they don't have a few tricks up their sleeve.

And the maps we've seen are, I know, Reach DLC. I'm not thick.

  • 06.06.2011 4:46 PM PDT

I'm happy with the way it is
I don't want to have to switch discs to play the same MP. They will be the same because the remake uses the halo reach engine.

This game looks like it is ment for the huge number of people who joined when reach came out as a way to get them caught up on the main story and the bonus maps for the reach MP is a selling point

What would the point be to have another MP come out a mounth before halo 4.

They made the right choice and you souldn't complain

  • 06.06.2011 6:34 PM PDT

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Posted by: ShieldyPoo
U Mirin?

Why don't you do any work on your chest or legs or something? You look like a cartoon character.

Posted by: Tuskin38
this thread

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=61258718

is correct, read it before posting please.

This guy is correct.

Hate to say I told you all so.

  • 06.06.2011 8:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: fiat1PUNTO
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Posted by: ridum
wrong.
No, I'm not wrong. Watch the video. It's clearly Reach being played on Halo CE maps.


Are you -blam!- stupid. 343 are using the REACH ENGINE

No you are stupid Havok is not being used on the campaign but obviously the maps are being played on Reach which last time i checked would probly use the reach engine...

  • 06.06.2011 8:47 PM PDT

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