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Subject: Halo 4 story speculation.

Posted by: CultMiester4000
I'm not really an Apple person (Bananas forever) but damn, that's kinda sad.

Whatever the plot, M obviously succeeds. else the "Museum of Humanity" ads wouldn't have occurred.

  • 06.06.2011 2:33 PM PDT
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Posted by: Samba
haha 20-40 year? Cortana is a Smart AI, they only live 7 years, so I would say, no more than 5 years after Halo 3.
False

UNSC delete AIs after 7 years for fear of rampancy- fall of reach

And she is 7 years old in halo 3/end of halo 3

  • 06.06.2011 2:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: TwiggyShip
I've given the story direction a lot of thought since pissing my pants (literally, I'm not ashamed to say it) at the reveal today at E3 and I've come to the conclusions as most of you - and it's this un-related thinking of drawing the same conclusions that makes me think it's the most logical step forward in terms of plot.

As we know, and have known for four frustrating years, at the end of Halo 3 Chief was floating starbound towards a mysterious Forerunner planetoid. The trailer unveiled today showed us that we were right about that and seemed to show the Foward Unto Dawn approaching what - to me - looks like a door, most likely a portal within the Forerunner planet.

Now, at the end of Ghosts of Onyx it was revealed that the planet Onyx was actually completely Forerunner made and underneath the crust of the planet was the shield world - a bomb shelter from the Halo Array, accessed via a portal. To sum it up quickly, Fred, Kelly, Linda, Mendez, Halsey and S-III Team Saber are stuck there in the Micro-Dyson sphere with no way out.

My theories as to Halo 4 are that Master Chief has been taken to Onyx, or what remains of it. The portal-like object we saw the FoD drifting towards could be a way in for John.

One thing I'd like to raise at this point is the FoD's state of disrepair - it's exploding, and is on fire. It's breaking up, heavily. At the end of Halo 3, it wasn't like that at all. My theory on this is that the Onyx Sentinels - the same ones that comprise the planet Onyx and attacked and decimated UNSC and Covenant fleets - have been harrassing the FoD and that's why Cortana needs John to wake up.

As such, then, I conclude that in Halo 4, John-117 and Cortana are heading towards Onyx, where they will enter the shield world and most likely encounter the others trapped there, and uncover some hidden, sinister truth about the Forerunners, and John's "destiny" will be confronted.

TL;DR - read it, you uneducated slob.

i completely agree with this theory, but if the FoD was floating towards the remnants of Onyx,and the UNSC had known about some sort of event happening on Onyx, then the would have sent other ships into the system to investigate during the time Chief was in cryo-sleep

  • 06.06.2011 3:30 PM PDT

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Posted by: evil BlackComet
I'm actually really upset that Microsoft continued this series with out Bungie. They crushed Halo's integrity for me because they went beyond what Bungie wanted. Halo 4 will not be in my Gaming library.


you know that most of 343inds. is made up of ex-bungie employee's?

  • 06.06.2011 3:40 PM PDT
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Posted by: TwiggyShip
My theories as to Halo 4 are that Master Chief has been taken to Onyx, or what remains of it. The portal-like object we saw the FoD drifting towards could be a way in for John.

I doubt its Onyx just from a storytelling standpoint. Most of the people who play Halo haven't read the books so dropping them in the middle of an ongoing books plot filled with dozens of unfamiliar characters and places would be a terrible idea.

  • 06.06.2011 3:40 PM PDT

Erku 'Nuhalee

I just think they should have never woke him up, but maybe we get to fight small pockets of the covenant that still strive. Or we get to fight rebels...

  • 06.06.2011 3:51 PM PDT

Posted by: hal0 slay3r661

Posted by: I VijaY I
I just think its stupid that he wakes up, having gone nowhere after destroying the last ring, and has a jet pack attached to his back. It can't get better from there storywise tbh....s'all im sayin'
it's not a jetpack, it's a part of the armor sir.

I assumed that the MJOLNIR MKVI had some better EVA features after all the BS that he seems to go through every time he has to go into zero gee.

Seriously, for those who haven't read The Fall of Reach and First Strike, -blam!- goes down every time he exits a ship. Some light thrusters aren't far-fetched at all, and we never had a chance to use them in Halo 3. They probably aren't strong enough to overcome gravity and act as a real jetpack.

  • 06.06.2011 4:08 PM PDT

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Wasn't there a race that the forerunners locked away that they found while cataloging all the species?

  • 06.06.2011 4:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: elitebrawler133
Wasn't there a race that the forerunners locked away that they found while cataloging all the species?

Well if you're talking about the prisoner, he was already locked away, but he escaped.

However the forerunners did keep a lot of species locked away on their planets. Humans and Prophets were both banished.

  • 06.06.2011 4:38 PM PDT

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Posted by: Samba
haha 20-40 year? Cortana is a Smart AI, they only live 7 years, so I would say, no more than 5 years after Halo 3.
False

UNSC delete AIs after 7 years for fear of rampancy- fall of reach

And she is 7 years old in halo 3/end of halo 3
Everyone says 7 years like it is a fixed number for when smart AIs become rampant. Seven years is an average. That means they can live longer or much shorter. I'm sure there are a number of smart AIs that go rampant within a few days of their creation that are being factored into that average.

  • 06.06.2011 4:38 PM PDT

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Posted by: elitebrawler133
Wasn't there a race that the forerunners locked away that they found while cataloging all the species?

Well if you're talking about the prisoner, he was already locked away, but he escaped.

However the forerunners did keep a lot of species locked away on their planets. Humans and Prophets were both banished.
ok thanks for clearing that up for me.

  • 06.06.2011 4:41 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Dual Campaign.

Missions alternate between the chief and Arbiter.

Chief missions take place on the Forerunner planet. He has to deal with rampant Forerunner monitors and tons of Forerunner contraptions. (Forerunner tank, multiple kinds of sentinels, enforcers, guardians, and those weird things from Halo: Bloodlines.)

Arbiter missions take place on Sanghelios with the Elites hunting down and killing all the brutes on the planet, and wiping out the brutes from the galaxy.

/Crosses fingers

  • 06.06.2011 4:41 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Since when was Cortana 7 years old at the end of Halo 3?

Wasn't she created in early 2552? I might be having a brainfart, but she CERTAINLY wasn't created in 2545.

  • 06.06.2011 4:42 PM PDT

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Posted by: privet caboose
Since when was Cortana 7 years old at the end of Halo 3?

Wasn't she created in early 2552? I might be having a brainfart, but she CERTAINLY wasn't created in 2545.

According to Halsey's Journal it was in November 7th 2549.

I think the whole "omg she's gone rampant cause she's near her end cycle" has been the subject of discussion due to the amount of knowledge she absorbed from Halo and the treatment she had under imprisonment the gravemind. Both of which have been discussed as contributing to her shortening lifespan.

but apart from that who knows?
I doubt she'll die anytime soon, maybe in Halo 6 LOL.

  • 06.06.2011 4:48 PM PDT

I believe. It may be a shield world. Possible the one from Ghosts of Onyx. But why would they be drawn into it? Perhaps the sentinels recognise the chief as a reclaimer. Could this mean Kelly, Fred, Linda, Mendez etc are in Halo 4? Karen Traviss' new book will reveal some info too.

  • 06.06.2011 4:56 PM PDT

Posted by: grey101

Posted by: Samba
haha 20-40 year? Cortana is a Smart AI, they only live 7 years, so I would say, no more than 5 years after Halo 3.
False

UNSC delete AIs after 7 years for fear of rampancy- fall of reach

And she is 7 years old in halo 3/end of halo 3


If she was made just prior to the Fall of Reach and the events between that and end of Halo 3 are back to back, how can she be 7 years old. I would say about 1.

  • 06.06.2011 4:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: TwiggyShip
I've given the story direction a lot of thought since pissing my pants (literally, I'm not ashamed to say it) at the reveal today at E3 and I've come to the conclusions as most of you - and it's this un-related thinking of drawing the same conclusions that makes me think it's the most logical step forward in terms of plot.

As we know, and have known for four frustrating years, at the end of Halo 3 Chief was floating starbound towards a mysterious Forerunner planetoid. The trailer unveiled today showed us that we were right about that and seemed to show the Foward Unto Dawn approaching what - to me - looks like a door, most likely a portal within the Forerunner planet.

Now, at the end of Ghosts of Onyx it was revealed that the planet Onyx was actually completely Forerunner made and underneath the crust of the planet was the shield world - a bomb shelter from the Halo Array, accessed via a portal. To sum it up quickly, Fred, Kelly, Linda, Mendez, Halsey and S-III Team Saber are stuck there in the Micro-Dyson sphere with no way out.

My theories as to Halo 4 are that Master Chief has been taken to Onyx, or what remains of it. The portal-like object we saw the FoD drifting towards could be a way in for John.

One thing I'd like to raise at this point is the FoD's state of disrepair - it's exploding, and is on fire. It's breaking up, heavily. At the end of Halo 3, it wasn't like that at all. My theory on this is that the Onyx Sentinels - the same ones that comprise the planet Onyx and attacked and decimated UNSC and Covenant fleets - have been harrassing the FoD and that's why Cortana needs John to wake up.

As such, then, I conclude that in Halo 4, John-117 and Cortana are heading towards Onyx, where they will enter the shield world and most likely encounter the others trapped there, and uncover some hidden, sinister truth about the Forerunners, and John's "destiny" will be confronted.

TL;DR - read it, you uneducated slob.

i completely agree with this theory, but if the FoD was floating towards the remnants of Onyx,and the UNSC had known about some sort of event happening on Onyx, then the would have sent other ships into the system to investigate during the time Chief was in cryo-sleep


Excellent theory and I agree with much of it. At the end of H3 FoD is drifting towards a planet and the ship is not damaged, hence all the burning on the ship that we see in the trailer must have happened upon arrival. So unless the Covie or the flood or another enemy caused that (unlikely) the sentinals which are mention in GoA are most likely responsible.
Just backing up your point.

  • 06.06.2011 5:04 PM PDT

If it is onyx, could it be possible to have dual missions consisting of master chief's story and the events of Ghosts of Onyx that leads up to them meeting? I can't see that happening personally but whatever.

Also, was it ever mentioned in the story that the forerunners could've had species other than engineers and the flood somewhere in containment or something?

  • 06.06.2011 5:05 PM PDT

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DING! Cortana moment
"I know you, your past, your future"
PLUS if you look closely, that ship the chief got out of...
it isn't the Fowanrd Unto Dawn
last i checked, she still had her engines and was shorter.

  • 06.06.2011 5:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: R Rod

Also, was it ever mentioned in the story that the forerunners could've had species other than engineers and the flood somewhere in containment or something?

reference please

  • 06.06.2011 5:07 PM PDT

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Posted by: TwiggyShip
My theories as to Halo 4 are that Master Chief has been taken to Onyx, or what remains of it. The portal-like object we saw the FoD drifting towards could be a way in for John.

I doubt its Onyx just from a storytelling standpoint. Most of the people who play Halo haven't read the books so dropping them in the middle of an ongoing books plot filled with dozens of unfamiliar characters and places would be a terrible idea.


ODSTs originated from the books, Reach originated from the books and a lot more. They have been basing Halo games on the books alots.

Oh and spartan IIIs are from the books too and Halo Reach is all about them.

[Edited on 06.06.2011 5:09 PM PDT]

  • 06.06.2011 5:07 PM PDT


Posted by: firedune

Posted by: R Rod

Also, was it ever mentioned in the story that the forerunners could've had species other than engineers and the flood somewhere in containment or something?

reference please


I'm asking if there even is a reference. It seems very possible that there could be more species but was it ever hinted in the halo stories?

[Edited on 06.06.2011 5:12 PM PDT]

  • 06.06.2011 5:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: Spartan Mikey
Posted by: Nameless Oracle

Posted by: TwiggyShip
My theories as to Halo 4 are that Master Chief has been taken to Onyx, or what remains of it. The portal-like object we saw the FoD drifting towards could be a way in for John.

I doubt its Onyx just from a storytelling standpoint. Most of the people who play Halo haven't read the books so dropping them in the middle of an ongoing books plot filled with dozens of unfamiliar characters and places would be a terrible idea.


ODSTs originated from the books, Reach originated from the books and a lot more. They have been basing Halo games on the books alots.

Oh and spartan IIIs are from the books too and Halo Reach is all about them.

Posted by: Spartan Mikey
Posted by: Nameless Oracle

Posted by: TwiggyShip
My theories as to Halo 4 are that Master Chief has been taken to Onyx, or what remains of it. The portal-like object we saw the FoD drifting towards could be a way in for John.

I doubt its Onyx just from a storytelling standpoint. Most of the people who play Halo haven't read the books so dropping them in the middle of an ongoing books plot filled with dozens of unfamiliar characters and places would be a terrible idea.


ODSTs originated from the books, Reach originated from the books and a lot more. They have been basing Halo games on the books alots.

Oh and spartan IIIs are from the books too and Halo Reach is all about them.

First of all, in halo 2 at the very beginning of the story covenant approach earth and someone says "This fleet is 12 times the size of the fleet that attacked Reach." no books were out before halo 2. And second of all they hinted in 1 of the first 3 halos about ODSTs. Third of all Reach does not have any SPARTAN-IIIs and in fact chronologically reach is just before halo 1

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This will be a good place to end.

Posted by: drummer0702
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Man. This is some BS, I heard the news of this and jumped back on here to come to some conclusions and agrue with people over what has and what is going to happen...

So, here's my theories:

Forerunner: It's the shield world, he'll meet up with the rest of the SPARTANS in the Dyson Sphere because the planet will repair itself.

It's just another world with another problem that John gets caught up in.

Precurser: Some sort of delayed mechanism for wiping out Forerunners, now it's targeting Humans.

Or it could be something we've never seen before... leaning more on this.

_

Plot ideas: John's going to die this time, or he'll be knocked down a peg... he's been lucky (and good, seeing as how *I'M* controlling him) so far and this is about taking the prestige away from being a Spartan.

I wouldn't put this timeline more than 20-40 years past Halo 3's end... the reactors most likely wouldn't sustain life for that long...

SPEAKING OF TIME: Cortana, she's got to go. She'll have been rampant for a few years now, and we'll most likely have to put her down.


I doubt we will be having a party in the Dyson Sphere. That just seems far too boring for a game and better flushed out in a book, imo. He isn't going to die because they already said this was turning into a new trilogy. He is still going to be the super hero we all know and love.

Cortana isn't going to go anywhere. It has already been said that Rampancy can be held off by keeping active. (See: Cole Protocol) Also, she is the first of her kind in terms of AI (flash cloned brain from a living person)

The System states that though she has been sent into Rampancy, she appears to have at least a semi-sentient thought process. This also has the possibility of a probable, though unlikely chance, that she has developed into a fully sentient being, if judged by the actions she has committed through out the complete trilogy of Halo.

  • 06.06.2011 5:23 PM PDT

So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us...


Posted by: hotshot revan II
the Master Chief returns to confront


Returns? He has been here before? Or he's returning, as in we get to play as him again?

  • 06.06.2011 5:27 PM PDT

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