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Subject: Halo: Anniversary... Nice job with the canon-breaking models, guys!

When you think it's all over, you are dead. Yay.

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Edit: Alright. Now, we have proof that at least the MA5B and M6D are getting proper models. I have yet to see the proper marines.


When I first saw Halo: Anniversary, I got really excited. I can go back to playing the original game in a completely new way with my friends over XBox Live and with new graphics. There's only one thing that got me down...

The weapons

I don't even understand why they chose to use the MA37 instead of the MA5B for the remake. The MA5B was the Marine's standard weapon during Halo: CE, NOT the MA37. ALL of the weapons are taken from Halo: Reach. Not cool.

If the weapons weren't bad enough, 343 didn't even bother to remodel the original Marines to use. They just took the Army models from Reach and plopped them onto the Marine characters. They could have at least used the Reach Marine models with the closed visors.

I hope that these models are just placeholders. As a long-time fan of Halo, I do NOT want to see a potentially great game like this break canon.

[Edited on 07.26.2011 7:10 AM PDT]

  • 06.06.2011 2:07 PM PDT

Does it really matter?

Anything could change between now and then.

  • 06.06.2011 2:09 PM PDT

Usually I would call soomeone like you whiney, but I agree. i have a lot of nostalgia for Halo CE, I don't want them to -blam!- this up.

[Edited on 06.06.2011 2:09 PM PDT]

  • 06.06.2011 2:09 PM PDT

just call me dude...

They didn't switch the weapons bro. The MA5B is still there, check the renders and don't get confused between the multiplayer images (Halo Reach Matchmaking Classic Maps) and the campaign (Halo CE Remake)

  • 06.06.2011 2:11 PM PDT

When you think it's all over, you are dead. Yay.

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Yes, it does matter. It's already been established that the MA5B and the MA37 are separate weapons belonging to different forces of the UNSC. Canon is canon.

  • 06.06.2011 2:11 PM PDT

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Posted by: DudeMX
They didn't switch the weapons bro. The MA5B is still there, check the renders and don't get confused between the multiplayer images (Halo Reach Matchmaking Classic Maps) and the campaign (Halo CE Remake)

It looks a lot like the MA37 to me, bro.

  • 06.06.2011 2:12 PM PDT


Posted by: DudeMX
They didn't switch the weapons bro. The MA5B is still there, check the renders and don't get confused between the multiplayer images (Halo Reach Matchmaking Classic Maps) and the campaign (Halo CE Remake)


This.
Though I do agree with you about using soldiers instead of marines...I also dislike the Chief's new look....however, those are very, very minor things to worry about. It'd be one thing if they had turned the AR into an SMG or replaced all the marines with giant lizards, but these are just minor cosmetic changes.

  • 06.06.2011 2:14 PM PDT

Posted by: DroidekaDood

Posted by: DudeMX
They didn't switch the weapons bro. The MA5B is still there, check the renders and don't get confused between the multiplayer images (Halo Reach Matchmaking Classic Maps) and the campaign (Halo CE Remake)

It looks a lot like the MA37 to me, bro.
Yeah, the Ar in the game play even had the yellow stripe on the side See the difference?

  • 06.06.2011 2:15 PM PDT

When you think it's all over, you are dead. Yay.

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Posted by: Quetzocoetl

Posted by: DudeMX
They didn't switch the weapons bro. The MA5B is still there, check the renders and don't get confused between the multiplayer images (Halo Reach Matchmaking Classic Maps) and the campaign (Halo CE Remake)


This.
Though I do agree with you about using soldiers instead of marines...I also dislike the Chief's new look....however, those are very, very minor things to worry about. It'd be one thing if they had turned the AR into an SMG or replaced all the marines with giant lizards, but these are just minor cosmetic changes.

Everything you just said only proves my point more. In one way or another, the SMG would function like the MA5B and the giant lizards would act like Marines with a different model. Like I said before, canon breaking.

  • 06.06.2011 2:17 PM PDT

Octavia is best pony.

Now here's a question. Will you have shields and/or be able to wield energy swords. 'cause you couldn't in CE.

Also, will you have armor-customization in multiplayer?

  • 06.06.2011 2:17 PM PDT

look isnt the important thing is to relive it stop being so picky. what i think is 343 just used this a practice so they can get a hang of it so they wont f up halo 4

  • 06.06.2011 2:18 PM PDT


Though I do agree with you about using soldiers instead of marines...I also dislike the Chief's new look....however, those are very, very minor things to worry about. It'd be one thing if they had turned the AR into an SMG or replaced all the marines with giant lizards, but these are just minor cosmetic changes.[/quote]I Totally agree with this. As long as they dont change the story or core aspects of the campaign im ok. BTW is anyone else pumped for halo 4.

  • 06.06.2011 2:18 PM PDT


Posted by: Quetzocoetl

Posted by: DudeMX
They didn't switch the weapons bro. The MA5B is still there, check the renders and don't get confused between the multiplayer images (Halo Reach Matchmaking Classic Maps) and the campaign (Halo CE Remake)


This.
Though I do agree with you about using soldiers instead of marines...I also dislike the Chief's new look....however, those are very, very minor things to worry about. It'd be one thing if they had turned the AR into an SMG or replaced all the marines with giant lizards, but these are just minor cosmetic changes.
This is the post i was responding to lol. accidentally deleted the quote.

  • 06.06.2011 2:19 PM PDT

When you think it's all over, you are dead. Yay.

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Posted by: linkfan107
look isnt the important thing is to relive it stop being so picky. what i think is 343 just used this a practice so they can get a hang of it so they wont f up halo 4

If looks aren't the important thing, they should've just forgotten about refurbishing the game and just sent it out with its old graphics. And I can't relive a game if the weapons aren't the same. They don't even SOUND the same.

  • 06.06.2011 2:19 PM PDT

just call me dude...

Posted by: DroidekaDood

Posted by: DudeMX
They didn't switch the weapons bro. The MA5B is still there, check the renders and don't get confused between the multiplayer images (Halo Reach Matchmaking Classic Maps) and the campaign (Halo CE Remake)

It looks a lot like the MA37 to me, bro.


*sigh*
OK Here we go...

Original AR
Halo Reach AR
Remake AR

looks similar? yes since it needs better graphics
is it the MA37? NO... check the gun display

physics will stay the same, new models MUST be made of course
and before someone starts this...

the god gun will be back too don't worry

  • 06.06.2011 2:20 PM PDT

Posted by: DroidekaDood

Posted by: linkfan107
look isnt the important thing is to relive it stop being so picky. what i think is 343 just used this a practice so they can get a hang of it so they wont f up halo 4

If looks aren't the important thing, they should've just forgotten about refurbishing the game and just sent it out with its old graphics. And I can't relive a game if the weapons aren't the same. They don't even SOUND the same.

Oh noooo come on i have been playing halo since ce and it doesnt look that different. Also sound you cant have everything the same thing look at remakes of all games/movies today they arnt perfect. In the trailer they said the weapons still function the same as they did before

  • 06.06.2011 2:22 PM PDT

Posted by: DudeMX
Posted by: DroidekaDood

Posted by: DudeMX
They didn't switch the weapons bro. The MA5B is still there, check the renders and don't get confused between the multiplayer images (Halo Reach Matchmaking Classic Maps) and the campaign (Halo CE Remake)

It looks a lot like the MA37 to me, bro.


*sigh*
OK Here we go...

Original AR
Halo Reach AR
Remake AR

looks similar? yes since it needs better graphics
is it the MA37? NO... check the gun display

physics will stay the same, new models MUST be made of course
and before someone starts this...

the god gun will be back too don't worry


Thank you

  • 06.06.2011 2:24 PM PDT

When you think it's all over, you are dead. Yay.

I. SEE. YOU. RECLAIMER.


Posted by: DudeMX
*sigh*
OK Here we go...

Original AR
Halo Reach AR
Remake AR

looks similar? yes since it needs better graphics
is it the MA37? NO... check the gun display

physics will stay the same, new models MUST be made of course
and before someone starts this...

the god gun will be back too don't worry

Okay. Right. The newly modeled AR has 60 rounds. Big deal. All 343 did was take the MA37 model and update it. If you look closely, the MA37 is much more skeletal and detailed than the MA5B. The MA5B, in turn, looks very solid. The remake's AR doesn't look solid. The remake's AR is the MA37, thus breaking the game's canon.

  • 06.06.2011 2:24 PM PDT

the game isnt even dun. now that they have announced it im sure people like you are going to complain to them about every little detail and they will change it

  • 06.06.2011 2:26 PM PDT

just call me dude...

Posted by: DroidekaDood

Posted by: DudeMX
*sigh*
OK Here we go...

Original AR
Halo Reach AR
Remake AR

looks similar? yes since it needs better graphics
is it the MA37? NO... check the gun display

physics will stay the same, new models MUST be made of course
and before someone starts this...

the god gun will be back too don't worry

Okay. Right. The newly modeled AR has 60 rounds. Big deal. All 343 did was take the MA37 model and update it. If you look closely, the MA37 is much more skeletal and detailed than the MA5B. The MA5B, in turn, looks very solid. The remake's AR doesn't look solid. The remake's AR is the MA37, thus breaking the game's canon.
You just went full retard...

I will only respond to logic, this is nonsense.

  • 06.06.2011 2:27 PM PDT

Personally one thing I wouldn't mind is if they added new weapons but kept all the classics. Maybe they could have a hand-full of Ma37's which basically acted as the Ma5b but with more damage and accuracy. Also the inclusion of ODST on Truth and Reconciliation would be a welcome addition . Maybe even adding in the Carbine or Beam Rifle to improve continuation between Halo CE and Halo 2. Also in Reach Marines boarded the POA with Ma37s so it would make some sense for a few rifles to be scattered around. But if there is one thing they shouldn't do it is change the appearance of Master Chief. That really grinds my gears.

  • 06.06.2011 2:28 PM PDT

Posted by: FourKILLMASTER
Personally one thing I wouldn't mind is if they added new weapons but kept all the classics. Maybe they could have a hand-full of Ma37's which basically acted as the Ma5b but with more damage and accuracy. Also the inclusion of ODST on Truth and Reconciliation would be a welcome addition . Maybe even adding in the Carbine or Beam Rifle to improve continuation between Halo CE and Halo 2. Also in Reach Marines boarded the POA with Ma37s so it would make some sense for a few rifles to be scattered around. But if there is one thing they shouldn't do it is change the appearance of Master Chief. That really grinds my gears.



I think so but again i dont like the mark 5 in halo reach its just one of those helmets that looks better in the old graphics and if you look at halo 4 trailer mc looks bad ass in there

  • 06.06.2011 2:31 PM PDT


Posted by: linkfan107
I think so but again i dont like the mark 5 in halo reach its just one of those helmets that looks better in the old graphics and if you look at halo 4 trailer mc looks bad ass in there


I know what you mean. When I first saw the Mk 5 in Halo Reach from the Rooster Teeth video I hated the look. The helmet looked way too small compared to everything else. And while MC does look pretty bad-ass in Halo 4 I just hope they have a canon reason as to why his armor changed so much.

  • 06.06.2011 2:35 PM PDT

When you think it's all over, you are dead. Yay.

I. SEE. YOU. RECLAIMER.


Posted by: DudeMX
Posted by: DroidekaDood

Posted by: DudeMX
*sigh*
OK Here we go...

Original AR
Halo Reach AR
Remake AR

looks similar? yes since it needs better graphics
is it the MA37? NO... check the gun display

physics will stay the same, new models MUST be made of course
and before someone starts this...

the god gun will be back too don't worry

Okay. Right. The newly modeled AR has 60 rounds. Big deal. All 343 did was take the MA37 model and update it. If you look closely, the MA37 is much more skeletal and detailed than the MA5B. The MA5B, in turn, looks very solid. The remake's AR doesn't look solid. The remake's AR is the MA37, thus breaking the game's canon.
You just went full retard...

I will only respond to logic, this is nonsense.

That's just an excuse for you not thinking of a good comeback. You know I'm right. You can't take the MA37's model and slap a new ammo counter on there and say, "HERP A DERP HERE'S THE NEW MA5B." It doesn't work that way. Halo has something called canon. And in the canon, the MA5B did NOT look like the MA37. I think you should pay more attention to the finer details. Sure, they look vaguely similar, but that doesn't change the fact that they aren't the same guns. I think you should review those images you posted.

  • 06.06.2011 2:37 PM PDT

When you think it's all over, you are dead. Yay.

I. SEE. YOU. RECLAIMER.


Posted by: FourKILLMASTER
Personally one thing I wouldn't mind is if they added new weapons but kept all the classics. Maybe they could have a hand-full of Ma37's which basically acted as the Ma5b but with more damage and accuracy. Also the inclusion of ODST on Truth and Reconciliation would be a welcome addition . Maybe even adding in the Carbine or Beam Rifle to improve continuation between Halo CE and Halo 2. Also in Reach Marines boarded the POA with Ma37s so it would make some sense for a few rifles to be scattered around. But if there is one thing they shouldn't do it is change the appearance of Master Chief. That really grinds my gears.

I agree with this. I'd like to see the MA5B being the primary weapon, but on occasion you could find an MA37 or DMR. That would make me happy.

  • 06.06.2011 2:39 PM PDT