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Subject: Halo: Anniversary... Nice job with the canon-breaking models, guys!

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This kind of pisses me off aswell. but i suppose the company charged with making the remake wanted to pull as many resources from Reach as possible.

  • 06.10.2011 2:18 PM PDT

before everyone goes ape--blam!- crazy over this (any more, I mean) I think it is pretty obvious that the gameplay featured mostly placeholder characters and animation. Look at MC for instance. His new in-game helmet looks very bland. And each one of the Marines in the new trailer looks exactly the same. They must be placeholders

  • 06.10.2011 2:44 PM PDT

-Dan

I hope you're right that they're just place holders.

  • 06.10.2011 3:09 PM PDT

This guy is a retard. It's just a remake, be happy that there doing this. Now Halo 4 is where you can complain about canon.

[Edited on 06.10.2011 3:40 PM PDT]

  • 06.10.2011 3:40 PM PDT
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I made a thread on this, and I actually listened to the sounds; they are not exact and it sounds a bit different. Something is lost in the process: the new stuff is really good, but something is missing that makes the original the best.
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Posted by: Kannan
I honestly can't believe you called that few-textured piece of crap iconic. Get your mind out of the past; the assault rifle definitely needs the revamp; it's not like it's even being changed much.

I can't believe there's so much fuss about making an ugly looking gun look better by making it more detailed and adding a yellow stripe. What actually is a troubling issue is the fact that they are redoing the sound...

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Posted by: Kannan
Guys, things are getting out of hand here.
The gun looks different from the Halo 1 and more similar to Reach's. However, the reticule, firing, ammo, and even the overall feel are the same.

Just watch the unveiling trailer and the exclusive trailer at http://halo.xbox.com (the one that starts of with "10 years ago..." and the one with Frankie).

if 343 wants us to relive the moments we've had, then they'd might as well not completely change the look of the most iconic weapon in halo.


Posted By: Frank O'Connor


We are keeping all of the sounds EXACTLY the same as they were in the original Halo. All changed sounds are placeholders for the time being.

  • 06.10.2011 4:04 PM PDT

I think this game is going to be great. I believe 343 will do a fantastic job in my opinion. Eventually they should consider making a Halo where everything from all the games are combined into one epic game. Even stuff from Halo wars, like the vehicles. I personally never understood why we could never high jack a scarab and use it against the covies. I have been a fan of this series ever since CE came out, the only thing I was really disappointed with was ODST, I think they should have incorporated more jumping, but I mean it was still an OK campaign. I think 343 should just do what ever it takes to make this game rock our consoles. Complaining about minor things is stupid, and CE remake will be delayed because of you.

  • 06.10.2011 5:39 PM PDT
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No.


Posted by: Kannan
I made a thread on this, and I actually listened to the sounds; they are not exact and it sounds a bit different. Something is lost in the process: the new stuff is really good, but something is missing that makes the original the best.


Posted By: Frank O'Connor

All changed sounds are placeholders for the time being.

  • 06.11.2011 4:05 PM PDT
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I agree with you, but most of the people playing this game couldn't care less.

To the people who do care though: it's still considered an "Assault Rifle". It just might be a placeholder, and could be changed soon. If not, it IS canon considering the marines at the end of Halo: Reach were carrying MA37's with them onto the POA. It might just be a different weapon, and maybe both the MA5B and the MA37 are in the game, who knows? Let's just wait until the game itself comes out. Then this whole thing will be over.

  • 06.11.2011 6:40 PM PDT

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Posted by: Seamus001
Usually I would call soomeone like you whiney, but I agree. i have a lot of nostalgia for Halo CE, I don't want them to -blam!- this up.

I agree thats why I was so mad at first. I thought they were remaking it from scratch. Gameplay will remain the same which is the best part but the small things can make it almost a bad remake.

  • 06.11.2011 6:44 PM PDT
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Aren't you guys going a little crazy here? All OP wanted was the MA5B Assault Rifle with updated graphics rather than what seems to be the MA5B Assault Rifle with a Halo: Reach AR skin. How hard can it be to understand him? Same thing with the Marines, he'd rather have the Halo 1 era Marines with better graphics than the Army troopers from Reach. With other words, he doesn't want it all to be a copypasta. Disagree all you want, but at least try to see it from his perspective instead of speculating that he's smoking something.

  • 06.11.2011 8:38 PM PDT
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Recon..??

as much as I love halo and i think its kinda dumb that theyre using the reach models, all I really care about is the controls
as long as THEY are NOT like Reach or 3 then im cool
Posted by: Gazas
Aren't you guys going a little crazy here? All OP wanted was the MA5B Assault Rifle with updated graphics rather than what seems to be the MA5B Assault Rifle with a Halo: Reach AR skin. How hard can it be to understand him? Same thing with the Marines, he'd rather have the Halo 1 era Marines with better graphics than the Army troopers from Reach. With other words, he doesn't want it all to be a copypasta. Disagree all you want, but at least try to see it from his perspective instead of speculating that he's smoking something.

i also agree with this.

  • 06.11.2011 9:38 PM PDT

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Hey Pokemon Heatgold And Soulsilver changed the canon of the originals i grew up with as well.

Adding Lyra and all her story stuff, Adding a Safari Zone, Adding a Wi-Fi Plaza, and The Battle Frontier, redesigning the player/trainer/and Pokemon models, Updating the story so you disguise yourself as team rocket, Adding new Pokemon, music, sounds, dialogue, cutscences, soundtracks, and areas (new Routes, Etc.)

They even updated the Boxart and Opening and ending credits/cutscense... And much more

EDIT: added some stuff. Thanks @SC Matt Klassen

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  • 06.11.2011 11:52 PM PDT
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SC = Supreme Commander/Supreme Canadian.

De Facto leader of the military of the APE (Allied Planets Empire).

Coup = Admiral Asskicker, ZPM hive ship


Posted by: USATOPGEARUSA
Hey Pokemon Heatgold And Soulsilver changed the canon of the originals i grew up with as well.

Adding Lyra and all her story stuff, Adding a Safari Zone, Adding a Wi-Fi Plaza, redesigning the player/trainer/and Pokemon models, Updating the story so you disguise yourself as team rocket, Adding new Pokemon, music, sounds, dialogue, cutscences, soundtracks, and areas (new Routes, Etc.)

They even updated the Boxart and Opening and ending credits/cutscense...

Subverted via in-game dialogue. And the old Box system was fail.

Oh, and you forgot the Battle Frontier. That is the true test of skill in Gen IV.

  • 06.12.2011 12:18 AM PDT

THERES AN ELITE IN MY TURRET!


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Posted by: FourKILLMASTER
Personally one thing I wouldn't mind is if they added new weapons but kept all the classics. Maybe they could have a hand-full of Ma37's which basically acted as the Ma5b but with more damage and accuracy. Also the inclusion of ODST on Truth and Reconciliation would be a welcome addition . Maybe even adding in the Carbine or Beam Rifle to improve continuation between Halo CE and Halo 2. Also in Reach Marines boarded the POA with Ma37s so it would make some sense for a few rifles to be scattered around. But if there is one thing they shouldn't do it is change the appearance of Master Chief. That really grinds my gears.

I agree with this. I'd like to see the MA5B being the primary weapon, but on occasion you could find an MA37 or DMR. That would make me happy.


There was no DMR in Halo CE you numb skull. Stop being a hypocrite.

  • 06.12.2011 12:58 AM PDT

OP can never be appeased. If you care so much about this 'major breach of canon', then don't play it.

  • 06.12.2011 1:42 AM PDT

You just got Sarged.

The guns from the first game looked "smooth" because of the graphical limitations of the day. Just because they wish to show off some detail and texture does not mean they're changing how the gun functions.

  • 06.12.2011 1:50 AM PDT

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Posted by: Gazas
Aren't you guys going a little crazy here? All OP wanted was the MA5B Assault Rifle with updated graphics rather than what seems to be the MA5B Assault Rifle with a Halo: Reach AR skin. How hard can it be to understand him? Same thing with the Marines, he'd rather have the Halo 1 era Marines with better graphics than the Army troopers from Reach. With other words, he doesn't want it all to be a copypasta. Disagree all you want, but at least try to see it from his perspective instead of speculating that he's smoking something.
Try to realize what he's asking for is simply too much for a $40 game.

[Edited on 06.12.2011 3:17 AM PDT]

  • 06.12.2011 3:17 AM PDT

i want everything to look good and nostalgic, but when the grunts get stuck with plasmas and the elites are forever evading your attacks, im not gonna care that much about the marines.

especially if they have cats driving skills.

  • 06.12.2011 3:26 AM PDT
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It's just some graphics dude!Adapt.

  • 06.12.2011 5:03 AM PDT
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Where did you get that quote?

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Posted by: Kannan
I made a thread on this, and I actually listened to the sounds; they are not exact and it sounds a bit different. Something is lost in the process: the new stuff is really good, but something is missing that makes the original the best.


Posted By: Frank O'Connor

All changed sounds are placeholders for the time being.

  • 06.12.2011 6:20 AM PDT
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Posted by: Gazas
Aren't you guys going a little crazy here? All OP wanted was the MA5B Assault Rifle with updated graphics rather than what seems to be the MA5B Assault Rifle with a Halo: Reach AR skin. How hard can it be to understand him? Same thing with the Marines, he'd rather have the Halo 1 era Marines with better graphics than the Army troopers from Reach. With other words, he doesn't want it all to be a copypasta. Disagree all you want, but at least try to see it from his perspective instead of speculating that he's smoking something.
Try to realize what he's asking for is simply too much for a $40 game.
I honestly fail to see how it's too much to ask for a graphically updated MA5B instead of a slapped on MA37 skin. It is completely understandable in my opinion. Imagine if the Plasma Rifle didn't exist in Reach and the Elites in Halo: CEA use Plasma Repeaters (which would be Plasma Rifles with Plasma Repeater skins). Are people stupid for wanting 343 to give the Elites graphically improved Plasma Rifles instead of slapped on Plasma Repeated skins?

My main point is that it is unnecessary to go ape-blam!- over him, I'm a little tired so I don't remember if he overreacted as well, but I do remember people saying he's stupid, is smoking something and even OCD (really?). For something this small, that's not needed.

[Edited on 06.12.2011 8:03 PM PDT]

  • 06.12.2011 7:53 PM PDT

If you are really disappointed though. Just switch back to the old halo graphics. I honestly think that you are really overreacting about the rifle. Sure, It has had it's slapped on graphical update. But what about the plasma rifle and plasma repeater? That itself went through so much "Slap on" it didn't hardly bother anyone. Especially that my friends or me.

  • 06.13.2011 6:23 PM PDT

Frog blast the ventcore!


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I think so but again i dont like the mark 5 in halo reach its just one of those helmets that looks better in the old graphics and if you look at halo 4 trailer mc looks bad ass in there


I know what you mean. When I first saw the Mk 5 in Halo Reach from the Rooster Teeth video I hated the look. The helmet looked way too small compared to everything else. And while MC does look pretty bad-ass in Halo 4 I just hope they have a canon reason as to why his armor changed so much.


I think it's because Mater Chief has been waken up before, and maybe there was spare parts on the half ship he was in? Now, going back on topic, I completely agree with OP, keep things as they should be!

  • 06.14.2011 7:29 PM PDT

'life is a stare down with death himself'

the model may have changed but its still the same. the 'ma37' is just a name. the marines and navy call it the ma5, the army calls it ma37. notice how their wasn't a br in reach, that's because they army didn't adopt it. divisions of the military have different gear. it may look similar but it is very different

  • 06.14.2011 7:36 PM PDT

Let me make this as clear as humanly -blam!- possible.


THE MODELS AND SOUNDS IN THE TRAILER WERE PLACEHOLDERS. THEY USED STUFF FROM REACH SO THEY'D HAVE SOMETHING FOR THE TRAILER, THEY ARE WORKING ON PROPER MODELS FOR THE FINAL GAME. THEY ARE KEEPING THE ORIGINAL SOUNDS*, THEY ARE FIXING MASTER CHIEF'S HELMET FROM WHAT THE TRAILER SHOWED, THEY WILL HAVE MARINE MODELS, THEY ARE MOST LIKELY WORKING ON A PROPER MA5B MODEL (I UNDERSTAND THE CANON, I REALIZE THERE'S ALL THE DIFFERENT VARIANTS OF THE MA5, BUT GODDAMN IF THEY DO END UP KEEPING THE MA37 MODEL IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD), AND AS FOR THE PEOPLE SAYING TO PRESS THE BACK BUTTON TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL GAME, IF I WANTED TO DO THAT I WOULD GET MY DISC FOR THE ORIGINAL GAME AND PUT THAT IN THE CONSOLE IN THE FIRST PLACE, SO IT HAS NO PLACE IN THE ARGUMENT.

Alright, rant over, can we please /thread now?


*They are remaking the soundtrack, using proper instruments instead of being synthesized like the original was.

  • 06.14.2011 9:13 PM PDT