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Subject: Halo: Anniversary... Nice job with the canon-breaking models, guys!
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Posted by: bowens13
REACH DIDNT BREAK CANON. Please give me an example, im using my big boy letters and im angry. just kidding but how did it break canon? If you read the books it fits canon
I can't believe no one has called you out on this. I'm not sure if you're lying about reading the books, trolling, or perhaps something else, but there are some obvious discrepancies between the fall of Reach as presented in the game and the books Fall of Reach and First Strike. The major problems are that a. in the books no mention was made of the appearance of the Covie Super-Carrier, which at the time was THE largest space-faring vessel ever seen by humans, over Reach as a prelude to the invasion. The idea that this wouldn't have been mentioned is ludicrous, as not only would it be extremely important in general, but practically impossible to conceal. Secondly, and even more importantly, the entire purpose of the Pillar of Autumn, its participation in the epic space battle that truly decided the fate of the planet, hell the fact that they were in space the whole damn battle are ignored by the game, which has it sitting on the ground despite the fact that it was according to the books ready to launch a mission deep into covie space to capture a prophet. They just decided to ignore that and have them sitting around waiting for Cortana, even though she was already on board in the books? Unless you've decided to completely ignore these discrepancies as having ever existed, there's a serious issue/ret-con/whatever.

  • 06.14.2011 10:32 PM PDT

The new helmets visor is WAY too big.

  • 06.14.2011 11:08 PM PDT

I don't see what all the fuss is about.

Sure they "broke canon", but in this case it makes no difference. To me, it really doesn't matter what the AR should look like.

I can understand people getting angry over the massive hole Halo Reach left in the canon, but I find it kind of amusing that people are making such a big deal about the AR looking more angular than it should.

  • 06.15.2011 12:50 AM PDT

Otherwise known as Sevi D!!


Posted by: Serithi
Let me make this as clear as humanly -blam!- possible.


THE MODELS AND SOUNDS IN THE TRAILER WERE PLACEHOLDERS. THEY USED STUFF FROM REACH SO THEY'D HAVE SOMETHING FOR THE TRAILER, THEY ARE WORKING ON PROPER MODELS FOR THE FINAL GAME. THEY ARE KEEPING THE ORIGINAL SOUNDS*, THEY ARE FIXING MASTER CHIEF'S HELMET FROM WHAT THE TRAILER SHOWED, THEY WILL HAVE MARINE MODELS, THEY ARE MOST LIKELY WORKING ON A PROPER MA5B MODEL (I UNDERSTAND THE CANON, I REALIZE THERE'S ALL THE DIFFERENT VARIANTS OF THE MA5, BUT GODDAMN IF THEY DO END UP KEEPING THE MA37 MODEL IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD), AND AS FOR THE PEOPLE SAYING TO PRESS THE BACK BUTTON TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL GAME, IF I WANTED TO DO THAT I WOULD GET MY DISC FOR THE ORIGINAL GAME AND PUT THAT IN THE CONSOLE IN THE FIRST PLACE, SO IT HAS NO PLACE IN THE ARGUMENT.

Alright, rant over, can we please /thread now?


*They are remaking the soundtrack, using proper instruments instead of being synthesized like the original was.

Since I am music junkie, I'm going to have to argue about the synths...There is no way to properly mimic a sythesized sound with a real intruments. I AM REFERING TOWARDS THE CREEPY NOISES THAT WAS THROWN IN THE SOUNDTRACK. Not actually the strings, horns, and percussion.

  • 06.15.2011 5:13 AM PDT

How did nobody realize the OP was trolling the whole time? Seriously.

  • 06.15.2011 6:01 PM PDT

And the new game is only giving you an idea of everything REDONE. who is to say that the halo CE assault rifle didn't look like that? they could honestly make it purple and say that is how it was meant to look. I don't think it is that big of a deal. Either way after a while the OP was just messing with everyone who denied what he said. trollin'

  • 06.15.2011 6:08 PM PDT

I am all our makers once held dear: [Alexandria before the Fire].

((Farewell Halo 2! You will not be forgotten! Farewell!))

The only thing that really bothers me is that they chose the MA537 model over cleaning up the MA5B model.

I think the Chief model looks a little rough as well.

  • 06.16.2011 1:13 PM PDT

I hope they dont screw up the chiefs helmet...the armor looked absolutely perfect in halo 1 now it looks less detailed.. theres only 2 primary colors to it now. before there was about 3 (not including visor...343 industries needs to go over that again..

[Edited on 06.16.2011 2:51 PM PDT]

  • 06.16.2011 2:48 PM PDT

You know i have notice this to and every time i think about it it makes me go crazy. I really hope that they fix this small problem.

[Edited on 06.16.2011 2:52 PM PDT]

  • 06.16.2011 2:49 PM PDT


Posted by: Techno Greek
If they can't even get the proper MA5B Assault rifle into this game, then I don't trust them with Halo's future. At all.

I want my big-ass, matte-black, 60-round-magazine bullet-hose back. That's what I was really looking forward to, out of it all.


ORAH!!

  • 06.16.2011 2:50 PM PDT

bring back the awesome halo 1 marines and voices too lol. the marines and the interaction with them and the chief made saving their assees worthwhile

  • 06.16.2011 2:54 PM PDT


Posted by: mcnealey720
And the new game is only giving you an idea of everything REDONE. who is to say that the halo CE assault rifle didn't look like that? they could honestly make it purple and say that is how it was meant to look. I don't think it is that big of a deal. Either way after a while the OP was just messing with everyone who denied what he said. trollin'


the graphics were good enough to tell what it was supposed to look like...dont just throw theories out there. and there was a big difference in the gun from halo 1 to halo 3 and from h3 to reach.it didnt really look like the same series in reach

  • 06.16.2011 2:56 PM PDT
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Bungie stated that the MA37 "will feel most similar to the Assault Rifle of the original Halo".

  • 06.16.2011 3:18 PM PDT


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Posted by: Techno Greek
If they can't even get the proper MA5B Assault rifle into this game, then I don't trust them with Halo's future. At all.

I want my big-ass, matte-black, 60-round-magazine bullet-hose back. That's what I was really looking forward to, out of it all.


OORAH!!


Yup. I see OP's point. Look at the bottom of the gun, compare it to Reach's Assault Rifle. Reach has a circular grip thing, almost looks like a grenade launcher. If you look at Halo:CE's Assault Rifle, the top that goes from the barrel to the ammo counter it all connected as one peice, where-as Reach's Assault Rifle, the one in Halo:CE Anniversary, has a barrel that's obviously not connected to the ammo counter. The skin in the remake is the same on as in Reach. Same thing with the Marine skins.

Needless to say, I'll be getting the remake anyway.

  • 06.16.2011 3:48 PM PDT

I'm fat, bro. You jelly?


Posted by: DroidekaDood

Posted by: DudeMX
*sigh*
OK Here we go...

Original AR
Halo Reach AR
Remake AR

looks similar? yes since it needs better graphics
is it the MA37? NO... check the gun display

physics will stay the same, new models MUST be made of course
and before someone starts this...

the god gun will be back too don't worry

Okay. Right. The newly modeled AR has 60 rounds. Big deal. All 343 did was take the MA37 model and update it. If you look closely, the MA37 is much more skeletal and detailed than the MA5B. The MA5B, in turn, looks very solid. The remake's AR doesn't look solid. The remake's AR is the MA37, thus breaking the game's canon.


They're changing up how the guns look... big whoop. I dunno about you but i'm pretty sure the goal of the anniversary project is to "update" the old game with new graphics and looks. Quit being so damned picky.

  • 06.16.2011 4:11 PM PDT

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I understand the argument about the AR op, but in terms of the military, the only difference between the army and marines seems to be the helmet and a slight tinge in the uniform under the armor.

marines

army

halo CEA marines

that could easily be updated and doesnt really take away from the experience if they didnt.

[Edited on 06.16.2011 4:45 PM PDT]

  • 06.16.2011 4:28 PM PDT

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Tucker: "no dude, that's a pedephile"
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Posted by: xMASTERAaRONx

Posted by: DroidekaDood

Posted by: DudeMX
*sigh*
OK Here we go...

Original AR
Halo Reach AR
Remake AR

looks similar? yes since it needs better graphics
is it the MA37? NO... check the gun display

physics will stay the same, new models MUST be made of course
and before someone starts this...

the god gun will be back too don't worry

Okay. Right. The newly modeled AR has 60 rounds. Big deal. All 343 did was take the MA37 model and update it. If you look closely, the MA37 is much more skeletal and detailed than the MA5B. The MA5B, in turn, looks very solid. The remake's AR doesn't look solid. The remake's AR is the MA37, thus breaking the game's canon.


They're changing up how the guns look... big whoop. I dunno about you but i'm pretty sure the goal of the anniversary project is to "update" the old game with new graphics and looks. Quit being so damned picky.


This remake was done as an homage to the game that started it all, and the fans that brought it where it is today. He has every right to be picky, especially with it being billed as a remastered titled. Simply porting over the same weapon model from another game is lazy, same goes for the use of the army models from Reach in lieu of the Navy soldiers in Halo.

  • 06.16.2011 4:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: bowens13
REACH DIDNT BREAK CANON. Please give me an example, im using my big boy letters and im angry. just kidding but how did it break canon? If you read the books it fits canon
I can't believe no one has called you out on this. I'm not sure if you're lying about reading the books, trolling, or perhaps something else, but there are some obvious discrepancies between the fall of Reach as presented in the game and the books Fall of Reach and First Strike. The major problems are that a. in the books no mention was made of the appearance of the Covie Super-Carrier, which at the time was THE largest space-faring vessel ever seen by humans, over Reach as a prelude to the invasion. The idea that this wouldn't have been mentioned is ludicrous, as not only would it be extremely important in general, but practically impossible to conceal. Secondly, and even more importantly, the entire purpose of the Pillar of Autumn, its participation in the epic space battle that truly decided the fate of the planet, hell the fact that they were in space the whole damn battle are ignored by the game, which has it sitting on the ground despite the fact that it was according to the books ready to launch a mission deep into covie space to capture a prophet. They just decided to ignore that and have them sitting around waiting for Cortana, even though she was already on board in the books? Unless you've decided to completely ignore these discrepancies as having ever existed, there's a serious issue/ret-con/whatever.
didn't halsey's diary clear up the cortana part?

  • 06.16.2011 4:33 PM PDT
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Time to get a drink and watch the world burn. Or deal with it.


Posted by: TehWarMoose
Now here's a question. Will you have shields and/or be able to wield energy swords. 'cause you couldn't in CE.

Also, will you have armor-customization in multiplayer?
In Halo CE you had sheilds. You were right with the sword though.

  • 06.16.2011 6:29 PM PDT


Posted by: xMASTERAaRONx

Posted by: DroidekaDood

Posted by: DudeMX
*sigh*
OK Here we go...

Original AR
Halo Reach AR
Remake AR

looks similar? yes since it needs better graphics
is it the MA37? NO... check the gun display

physics will stay the same, new models MUST be made of course
and before someone starts this...

the god gun will be back too don't worry

Okay. Right. The newly modeled AR has 60 rounds. Big deal. All 343 did was take the MA37 model and update it. If you look closely, the MA37 is much more skeletal and detailed than the MA5B. The MA5B, in turn, looks very solid. The remake's AR doesn't look solid. The remake's AR is the MA37, thus breaking the game's canon.


They're changing up how the guns look... big whoop. I dunno about you but i'm pretty sure the goal of the anniversary project is to "update" the old game with new graphics and looks. Quit being so damned picky.


yea but when u take a game that was considered holy by millions and try to "improve" on it. u dont want to distort it and cause fans to riot...no offense but you sound like a person who didnt really start off with halo 1...so i dont expect you to undestand why the ma5b was so epic if that is the case..but adding better graphics doesnt mean you should remake the gun..keep it true to the original....if that doesnt make a game in of itself add some parts that werent featured in the first game...like scenes from the books that were cool

  • 06.16.2011 6:30 PM PDT

heres a question. will the marines have different uniforms like the first halo? in halo combat evolved marines wore either ballistics armor or fatigues. if this question has already been asked im sorry

  • 06.16.2011 6:39 PM PDT

I've read this entire thread and every time the OP posted, all I could hear in my head was the voice that Shawn Elliot used during his heroes of the web segments on GFW radio. Not whiskey nerd but the other one.

On topic though, I just hope, like another poster pointed out, that they understand the importance of maintaining the original geometry of everything.

  • 06.16.2011 7:25 PM PDT

Look at it like this, if they re-launch ALL the Halo games, would it really matter?

  • 06.16.2011 7:38 PM PDT

i keep seeing ppl post OP. in other games that means over powered..is that what it means here? or does it mean something like original poster?

[Edited on 06.16.2011 7:49 PM PDT]

  • 06.16.2011 7:49 PM PDT