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Subject: Halo: Anniversary... Nice job with the canon-breaking models, guys!

The concept is all that really matters.


Posted by: DroidekaDood

Posted by: Captain K
Nice job making an extremely trivial observation.

If they wanted to make this game look like Halo: CE with a graphics overhaul, they could have AT LEAST remodeled the original weapons. It shouldn't be that hard. So, in my eyes, something like this is not trivial, rather a showing of laziness.


I understand what you are getting at with all of your posts, but I just don't understand the fuss. It's just one small screw-up in the inventory, not the story itself.

  • 06.06.2011 7:33 PM PDT

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Well at any point you can simply switch back and forth between the new graphics and the original's graphics mid-game.

Now, if it had a lower ammo counter and removed the yellow stripe from the reach model would that be acceptable?

  • 06.06.2011 7:34 PM PDT

Bungie retconned the -blam!- out of the Halo canon over the years, I can't fathom anyone being upset with 343 for such niggling details when Bungie routinely changed -blam!- or created retroactive inconsistencies.

Anyway, the Pelican that Keyes flies onto the Pillar in at the end of Reach has marines armed with MA37's, so they were on board the Autumn.

[Edited on 06.06.2011 7:36 PM PDT]

  • 06.06.2011 7:35 PM PDT


Posted by: DroidekaDood
The MA5B was made for the Marines. The Marines were in Halo: CE, not the Army.

I don't think you understood me. I would explain myself, but I have no idea what you thought I was saying. Also, the models are not exactly the same, just mostly the same.

  • 06.06.2011 7:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: DroidekaDood

Posted by: Captain K
Nice job making an extremely trivial observation.

If they wanted to make this game look like Halo: CE with a graphics overhaul, they could have AT LEAST remodeled the original weapons. It shouldn't be that hard. So, in my eyes, something like this is not trivial, rather a showing of laziness.

...you have gone past the complainer marker, and are now fully at the point of being OCD. At least they're not slapping an underside grenade launcher attachment on the underside of the assault rifle, no?

  • 06.06.2011 7:37 PM PDT
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Coup = Admiral Asskicker, ZPM hive ship

Posted by: Big T Mac10
Well at any point you can simply switch back and forth between the new graphics and the original's graphics mid-game.

WHUT? Where'd you get THAT? Check your sources better, soldier!

  • 06.06.2011 7:38 PM PDT

The concept is all that really matters.


Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Posted by: Big T Mac10
Well at any point you can simply switch back and forth between the new graphics and the original's graphics mid-game.

WHUT? Where'd you get THAT? Check your sources better, soldier!


I heard that that will be an option for the game in an interview with a producer or somebody... somebody....

  • 06.06.2011 7:41 PM PDT


Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Posted by: Big T Mac10
Well at any point you can simply switch back and forth between the new graphics and the original's graphics mid-game.

WHUT? Where'd you get THAT? Check your sources better, soldier!


You can indeed change back and forth between the original graphics and updated version.

Also the Ma37 shouldn't be a replacement for the Ma5b. That's just lazy, now hopefully it is just a placeholder but if it isn't I would be disappointed.

  • 06.06.2011 7:42 PM PDT

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Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Posted by: Big T Mac10
Well at any point you can simply switch back and forth between the new graphics and the original's graphics mid-game.

WHUT? Where'd you get THAT? Check your sources better, soldier!
I did. I'm right.

  • 06.06.2011 7:42 PM PDT

Irish Anger

yes, Frank O'Connor states that you "hit a button", and it changes to the classic look.

Check out halo waypoint for the video. Sweet assss....


Oops-it WASN'T Frank, it was Dan Ayoub, that said it.
Good day sir. I SAID GOOD DAY!!

[Edited on 06.06.2011 7:55 PM PDT]

  • 06.06.2011 7:44 PM PDT

As below, so above and beyond, I imagine
drawn beyond the lines of reason.
Push the envelope. Watch it bend.-Lateralus

lol this dude is freakin out :D. hes been to like 2 other topics ranting about weapons. a games a game dude. ive been playing CE since it came out and i'd be totally fine if the assault rifles got switched. be happy that theyre remaking this amazing game

  • 06.06.2011 7:47 PM PDT
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Posted by: Irish Anger
yes, Frank O'Connor states that you "hit a button", and it changes to the classic look.

...why even bother remaking it when you can do that? Redundant Department of Redundancy here.

  • 06.06.2011 7:57 PM PDT


Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Posted by: Irish Anger
yes, Frank O'Connor states that you "hit a button", and it changes to the classic look.

...why even bother remaking it when you can do that? Redundant Department of Redundancy here.


So purists could play online co-op, and so enthusiasts can play CE with up-to-date graphics, or switch back-and-forth to see the dramatic difference. I think its awesome, actually. They did this in Monkey Island HD too.

  • 06.06.2011 8:02 PM PDT

When you think it's all over, you are dead. Yay.

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Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Posted by: DroidekaDood

Posted by: Captain K
Nice job making an extremely trivial observation.

If they wanted to make this game look like Halo: CE with a graphics overhaul, they could have AT LEAST remodeled the original weapons. It shouldn't be that hard. So, in my eyes, something like this is not trivial, rather a showing of laziness.

...you have gone past the complainer marker, and are now fully at the point of being OCD. At least they're not slapping an underside grenade launcher attachment on the underside of the assault rifle, no?

Are you using OCD as an insult? I'm fully aware that I have OCD, and it's probably what's making me think this way. But still, there are other people that agree with me. It's not a rant, as some of you think, but rather my feelings on the matter.

To everyone who thinks that I'm a troll: you guys started this flame war, not me. I never intended any arguments. I just wanted to get my point across. Of course, we can't go a day without some argument forming from someone's opinion.

  • 06.06.2011 8:02 PM PDT

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Posted by: FishyeGgi
lol this dude is freakin out :D. hes been to like 2 other topics ranting about weapons. a games a game dude. ive been playing CE since it came out and i'd be totally fine if the assault rifles got switched. be happy that theyre remaking this amazing game

I'd be fine with a switch, too, if it were canonically explained.

  • 06.06.2011 8:04 PM PDT

Irish Anger

Droidkadood-I've played since halo 1. I believe in most things, that attention to detail is PARAMOUNT to achieving exceleence. You do something-hell, do it right, son.
Something this younger generation seems to be lacking.
OOOOh, look, something shiny!
Or, if you rather a dog type analagy: SQUIRREL! :p

It's all fun and games and mostly OPINION- so no need to flame the guy, people. Mature at your own pace. It's ok, really.

  • 06.06.2011 8:08 PM PDT

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Posted by: DroidekaDood

I'd be fine with a switch, too, if it were canonically explained.
There is a canonically-explained switch. It's called the back button, and it lets you change to the old graphics at any point in the game. ;)

Now, if it had a lower ammo counter and removed the yellow stripe from the reach model would that be acceptable?

Or just keep avoiding answering the question, considering you seem to respond to any other post that doesn't ask this question.

  • 06.06.2011 8:10 PM PDT


Posted by: DroidekaDood

Posted by: FishyeGgi
lol this dude is freakin out :D. hes been to like 2 other topics ranting about weapons. a games a game dude. ive been playing CE since it came out and i'd be totally fine if the assault rifles got switched. be happy that theyre remaking this amazing game

I'd be fine with a switch, too, if it were canonically explained.


Bungie made a ton of canonical blunders with Halo, or they would make up ridiculously contrived explanations, which I think is worse: re-publishing "The Fall of Reach" with changed/additional info, Marines with MA37's loading into the Pillar of Autumn but then never being seen on Halo (until now!), Spartans sporadically losing/gaining the ability to hold 2 weapons and Energy Swords, Halsey knowing about the Spartan 3 program, an S3 even being on Reach during the fall, the inexplicable complete absence of Elites in New Mombasa in ODST when they were there hours earlier, I could go on...

Your complaints against 343 are niggling compared to the blunders of Bungie.

[Edited on 06.06.2011 8:12 PM PDT]

  • 06.06.2011 8:11 PM PDT

Wort, Wort, Wort!
Honk, honk, blarg!

I love Elites.

The game probably isn't even into the Beta stage yet. Yeah, these models probably are placeholders.

  • 06.06.2011 8:14 PM PDT

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you are a good translator
Idiot can be a hard language to learn, but once you get it down, everything becomes so clear! The whole world will make sense to you.

Posted by: DroidekaDood

Posted by: BK Burger Boy
It looks like a not ugly version of the Halo 1 AR. I have no idea what you're smoking.

Take a closer look, please. It looks nothing like the MA5B. It's the MA37 model with an updated ammo counter.

It is. it's the same length with an updated theme similar to Reach. It is not a MA37.

  • 06.06.2011 8:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: Big T Mac10

Posted by: DroidekaDood

I'd be fine with a switch, too, if it were canonically explained.
There is a canonically-explained switch. It's called the back button, and it lets you change to the old graphics at any point in the game. ;)

Now, if it had a lower ammo counter and removed the yellow stripe from the reach model would that be acceptable?

Or just keep avoiding answering the question, considering you seem to respond to any other post that doesn't ask this question.

No, it wouldn't be acceptable. But whatever, I'm tired and I don't want to continue this. I never should have argued with anyone in the first place. Good night.

  • 06.06.2011 8:31 PM PDT

Halo Reach ended with Army modeled marines carrying MA37's on the PoA, so techinically, 343 isn't breaking canon, they're using the canon that BUNGIE established when they made the retcon dubbed Reach.

  • 06.06.2011 8:38 PM PDT

There are bigger problems than just a change in the AR, if you pay attention during the trailer at about the 1:00 mark you will notice a player sprinting in the background. If they added armor abilities to this game, which it seems they did, I will be VERY disappointed and pissed at 343 forever!

  • 06.06.2011 8:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: Irish Anger
Good day sir. I SAID GOOD DAY!!


Willy Wonka reference?

  • 06.07.2011 5:50 AM PDT