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Subject: Halo: Anniversary... Nice job with the canon-breaking models, guys!


Posted by: AlkkaPWN
Truthfully, it does matter. This is a remake, not an entirely new game. There should not be any drastic changes like completely revamped armor, or new weapons, or new campaign levels. Nothing should change the canon of the story.

That being said, they still have plenty of time to change the game and I hope they change it for the best.

This release did feel rushed but I did really like the environment, which felt very polished. The movement of the characters seemed too linear as did the weapon recoil. The marine and Covenant models along with some of the weapons did remind me of Reach, but, again, they still have time to change these things, and I hope they do.


Exactly! This is a remake of Halo:Combat Evolved not a Reboot of the series. All 343 has to do is update the Assault Rifle's model and be done with it. Now personally I think the remake is a bad idea. All that will end of happening is conflicting are views on how everything should look. Resulting in the massive difference in Elites/Brutes in each Halo game. Maybe in 2020 we will can a full Remake of the series including cut levels/weapons/and enemies. The final game should be one disc and include each campaign from the Original Trilogy(Reach can be included as an added bonus I suppose).

  • 06.07.2011 12:23 PM PDT

So you went to the trouble of clicking on my profile, either to send a group invite or hate message, or to check my Halo stats and call me a BK. I like Peanut Butter Waffles.

That trailer is Alpha, meaning they're using those models as placeholders.

  • 06.07.2011 12:41 PM PDT

They literally ARE THE SAME!


they didn't touch gameplay only graphics


STUPID post!

  • 06.07.2011 12:46 PM PDT


Posted by: Forge Fan92
That trailer is Alpha, meaning they're using those models as placeholders.
no it's not...

infact i believe they are done due to the fact it comes out november 15

  • 06.07.2011 12:47 PM PDT

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Posted by: Mikerulez1234
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZrzg62Zj0

Nice one, guy. No need to think of a real response, just slap that old video into the thread as your comment. Idiots these days...

  • 06.07.2011 12:48 PM PDT

When you think it's all over, you are dead. Yay.

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Posted by: II Majority II
They literally ARE THE SAME!


they didn't touch gameplay only graphics


STUPID post!

Your post was even more pointless than mine. I UNDERSTAND that the graphics are all that's being changed. What I don't like is that 343 seems to be using Reach's assault rifle instead of remodeling the first game's. I would understand the switch in rifles if it were a new game, but this is just a sign of laziness. Oh well, they're most likely placeholders, along with the Army models being used for the Marines.

And I meant that they're different in the game's canon. Not in gameplay. Learn to read properly before you post. Thank you.

  • 06.07.2011 12:51 PM PDT

i fight for what i believe in and fight 100%

It's very minor and if it bothers you that much then you can change the settings to classic halo one style.

  • 06.07.2011 12:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: Gamer404
It's very minor and if it bothers you that much then you can change the settings to classic halo one style.

Okay, maybe you don't understand what I'm getting at... I want to be able to play through the game with the new graphics and not feel like I'm playing a reskinned Reach. It may be minor to you, but it isn't to me. I'm not saying I'm not gonna buy the game, I'm just really disappointed so far.

  • 06.07.2011 12:54 PM PDT


Posted by: DroidekaDood

Posted by: II Majority II
They literally ARE THE SAME!


they didn't touch gameplay only graphics


STUPID post!

Your post was even more pointless than mine. I UNDERSTAND that the graphics are all that's being changed. What I don't like is that 343 seems to be using Reach's assault rifle instead of remodeling the first game's. I would understand the switch in rifles if it were a new game, but this is just a sign of laziness. Oh well, they're most likely placeholders, along with the Army models being used for the Marines.

And I meant that they're different in the game's canon. Not in gameplay. Learn to read properly before you post. Thank you.
Lazy?

btw if you notice they are using HR model for the pistol

AND BTW they completely broke the cannon by changing the OS model from H2 to H3

OMG THIS GAME IS RUINED!

/end sarcasm...

btw the game comes out november... i dout they ar still using place holders

[Edited on 06.07.2011 12:56 PM PDT]

  • 06.07.2011 12:54 PM PDT

its meant to be changed to look cooler

halo 1 is already out soo they don't need to follow cannon for visuals

it's not a new game it's an old one that is getting plastic surgery

  • 06.07.2011 12:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: II Majority II

Posted by: DroidekaDood

Posted by: II Majority II
They literally ARE THE SAME!


they didn't touch gameplay only graphics


STUPID post!

Your post was even more pointless than mine. I UNDERSTAND that the graphics are all that's being changed. What I don't like is that 343 seems to be using Reach's assault rifle instead of remodeling the first game's. I would understand the switch in rifles if it were a new game, but this is just a sign of laziness. Oh well, they're most likely placeholders, along with the Army models being used for the Marines.

And I meant that they're different in the game's canon. Not in gameplay. Learn to read properly before you post. Thank you.
Lazy?

btw if you notice they are using HR model for the pistol

AND BTW they completely broke the cannon by changing the OS model from H2 to H3

OMG THIS GAME IS RUINED!

/end sarcasm...

btw the game comes out november... i dout they ar still using place holders

Actually, no. The pistol model they're using is the M6G model used for Reach. It's not a refurbished M6D. Besides, I'm not talking about graphical updates. I'm talking about the incorrect weapons being used for the game. The MA37 was NOT in service en masse with the Marines in the first game, yet in the remake, that's the assault rifle that's being used.

Also, November is longer away than you seem to think. A lot can happen in five months.

  • 06.07.2011 1:00 PM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

I was a little put off by how blocky the AR looked as well. That is just not right.

  • 06.07.2011 1:01 PM PDT


Posted by: DroidekaDood

Posted by: II Majority II

Posted by: DroidekaDood

Posted by: II Majority II
They literally ARE THE SAME!


they didn't touch gameplay only graphics


STUPID post!

Your post was even more pointless than mine. I UNDERSTAND that the graphics are all that's being changed. What I don't like is that 343 seems to be using Reach's assault rifle instead of remodeling the first game's. I would understand the switch in rifles if it were a new game, but this is just a sign of laziness. Oh well, they're most likely placeholders, along with the Army models being used for the Marines.

And I meant that they're different in the game's canon. Not in gameplay. Learn to read properly before you post. Thank you.
Lazy?

btw if you notice they are using HR model for the pistol

AND BTW they completely broke the cannon by changing the OS model from H2 to H3

OMG THIS GAME IS RUINED!

/end sarcasm...

btw the game comes out november... i dout they ar still using place holders

Actually, no. The pistol model they're using is the M6G model used for Reach. It's not a refurbished M6D. Besides, I'm not talking about graphical updates. I'm talking about the incorrect weapons being used for the game. The MA37 was NOT in service en masse with the Marines in the first game, yet in the remake, that's the assault rifle that's being used.

Also, November is longer away than you seem to think. A lot can happen in five months.
ODST was done for about 9 months before release

  • 06.07.2011 1:01 PM PDT

persponally i'd rather see the HR Sexy model than the H3/H1 model

  • 06.07.2011 1:03 PM PDT

Forge, Test, Fun!

It wouldn't even break the canon, if your saying that 343 did, it was actually Bungie who made this mess, with every soldier in Halo Reach using the reach AR while Captain Keys and his Marines, had a different Model AR they didnt use the entire game? So if the Remake is using the Reach AR, it wouldn't break canon because Keyes and the Marines never had the different AR with them.

  • 06.07.2011 1:34 PM PDT

If they can't even get the proper MA5B Assault rifle into this game, then I don't trust them with Halo's future. At all.

I want my big-ass, matte-black, 60-round-magazine bullet-hose back. That's what I was really looking forward to, out of it all.

  • 06.07.2011 2:59 PM PDT

Jesus loves you! But I think you're a -blam!-

Relax they're probably going to change alot.

  • 06.07.2011 3:26 PM PDT
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Well, as long as the pistol is a 3 shot and a dominate with it, I'm fine. I could care less if it's canon correct and why do you? They try to be as accurate as possible and you shouldn't be grudging over such small details. It's truly a nice find though.

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  • 06.07.2011 3:30 PM PDT

personally im upset that they put jetpacks and armor lock in the multiplayer because if i remember correctly none of that -blam!- stuff was in CE which made it GOOD

  • 06.07.2011 3:48 PM PDT

Live Long and Consume Banana Oil, ya' Spoony Bards!

Look at the bright side: The M6D is still a death-dealer with the same power it had before. And it looks pretty much the same too, although we didn't actually see a whole lot of it.

  • 06.07.2011 3:49 PM PDT

After what Bungie did to canon with Reach, I don't really mind small stuff like this.

  • 06.07.2011 4:16 PM PDT

nothing left to do but to finish the fight


Posted by: DroidekaDood

I keep saying this but none of you guys seem to get it.


Yeh usually most people take the hint and realise this is because they are in the wrong....

There are graphical differences between the MA37 and the revamped MA5B, the new model looks more like a rifle and less like a super soaker for bullets.
as for your "Marines wearing full face visors" they are ODST's. Marines wear armour just like the ones in the trailer, just like the ones in all the halo games actually.
Id like to see some marines on the surface of Halo-04 as it ties in nicely with the books. I'd also like to get to see the ever elusive Carol Rawley "Foehammer"!

Read the books, Youl like them. You'l be able to complain about loads of stuff in them its great.

in fact just read books I feel it will be beneficial.

oh and lets talk about the real scary thing in that trailer
The chiefs helmet! :O please god remodel the armour! the halo 3 Mk. V helmet looked good use that!

  • 06.07.2011 4:40 PM PDT
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Posted by: dahuterschuter
I was a little put off by how blocky the AR looked as well. That is just not right.

  • 06.07.2011 4:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: drakeofhalo

Posted by: DroidekaDood

I keep saying this but none of you guys seem to get it.


Yeh usually most people take the hint and realise this is because they are in the wrong....

There are graphical differences between the MA37 and the revamped MA5B, the new model looks more like a rifle and less like a super soaker for bullets.
as for your "Marines wearing full face visors" they are ODST's. Marines wear armour just like the ones in the trailer, just like the ones in all the halo games actually.
Id like to see some marines on the surface of Halo-04 as it ties in nicely with the books. I'd also like to get to see the ever elusive Carol Rawley "Foehammer"!

Read the books, Youl like them. You'l be able to complain about loads of stuff in them its great.

in fact just read books I feel it will be beneficial.

oh and lets talk about the real scary thing in that trailer
The chiefs helmet! :O please god remodel the armour! the halo 3 Mk. V helmet looked good use that!

I don't even know where to start with this. First of all, I'm NOT talking about ODSTs. If it were an ODST, I would know it. I'm talking about these guys. THESE are the revamped Marines that I'm talking about. How do I know that they're Marines? Simple. They're not ODSTs and they came from the Pillar of Autumn, which is a Navy space craft, housing Marines.

Another thing: I DO read the books.

The last thing, which made me seriously want to bathe with a toaster. You just called Master Chief's armor in Halo 3 the Mark V. No. It's not the Mark V, it's the Mark VI. It's not a graphically updated Mark V, it's an upgraded set of armor. At the time of Halo: CE, the Mark VI was a prototype anyway. I'm still shocked that you just confused the Mark VI to be a graphically-enhanced Mark V. I think YOU should read the books, and maybe play the games, too.

  • 06.07.2011 6:31 PM PDT