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Subject: Halo 4, Killing the story?

I'll remain a soldier until the war is won.

Set in the aftermath of Halo 3, Master Chief returns to confront his own destiny and face an ancient evil that threatens the fate of the entire universe.


...Ok wasnt this what the first Trilogy was about??



And lets think about this.
When we last left cheif,
-Humanity was decimated, all its colonies destoryed, earth in ruins, mankind left with just over 300,000 people, and little to no military forces left to speak of.
-The Seperatists where in a state of dissaray, many trying to find meaning with the loss of their gods.
-The Covenant is destroyed, High Charity in ruins, the Prophets all dead, whats left of their fleets destoryed or in full retreat.

What in the -blam!- hell are we going to fight this "new threat" with?



This was a huge mistake 343. Cheifs story had come to an end, you should've let it stay that way. For awhile at least. 10 years down the road this would have been awsome to hear about. The man, the ledgand, come back to life.

Tell other stories, the war laster for 30 years, theres billions of them.
Just, really? No. The story just got -blam!- stupid.


[Edited on 06.07.2011 4:13 PM PDT]

  • 06.06.2011 8:00 PM PDT
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you don't know wtf you're talking about

  • 06.06.2011 8:01 PM PDT

I'll remain a soldier until the war is won.


Posted by: noble6sfriend
you don't know wtf you're talking about


Okay, you cant just say that.
Give a reason.

  • 06.06.2011 8:03 PM PDT

Reach for Halo!

We havent seen or heard anything besides the E3 trailer which Frankie said was CG. You and I know nothing. We can talk more when Pax comes in August. Thats when they start release stuff.

Sam

  • 06.06.2011 8:04 PM PDT

Reach for Halo!

Posted by: REVOLUTION 25

Posted by: noble6sfriend
you don't know wtf you're talking about


Okay, you cant just say that.
Give a reason.


BTW: Have you read any Halo books...if not you should go check them out...it might explain some of this...

  • 06.06.2011 8:05 PM PDT
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yeah you have no idea what kind of story they'll bring in involving MC, you'll probably love it so you can't judge sht right now. Anyway would you rather have never found out where MC floats to after halo3?

  • 06.06.2011 8:05 PM PDT

Reach for Halo!

BTW OP: You might want to see this


Set in the aftermath of Halo 3, Master Chief returns to confront his own destiny and face an ancient evil that threatens the fate of the entire universe
From linky

  • 06.06.2011 8:08 PM PDT

Posted by: noble6sfriend
yeah you have no idea what kind of story they'll bring in involving MC, you'll probably love it so you can't judge sht right now. Anyway would you rather have never found out where MC floats to after halo3?
That's how King Arthur's story ended; asleep in some cave in Wales.

It could have been left ambiguous and ominous. I personally wanted to see it continued, but after that teaser, I'm thinking they maybe should have left it alone.

  • 06.06.2011 8:09 PM PDT

I'll remain a soldier until the war is won.


Posted by: noble6sfriend
yeah you have no idea what kind of story they'll bring in involving MC, you'll probably love it so you can't judge sht right now. Anyway would you rather have never found out where MC floats to after halo3?


I can only hope and pray your right.

And yes. Yes i would.

  • 06.06.2011 8:12 PM PDT

I'll remain a soldier until the war is won.


Posted by: SAM DA COOL MAN
Posted by: REVOLUTION 25

Posted by: noble6sfriend
you don't know wtf you're talking about


Okay, you cant just say that.
Give a reason.


BTW: Have you read any Halo books...if not you should go check them out...it might explain some of this...


Of course ive read them. I know them back to front.

  • 06.06.2011 8:13 PM PDT

I'll remain a soldier until the war is won.


Posted by: Techno Greek
Posted by: noble6sfriend
yeah you have no idea what kind of story they'll bring in involving MC, you'll probably love it so you can't judge sht right now. Anyway would you rather have never found out where MC floats to after halo3?
That's how King Arthur's story ended; asleep in some cave in Wales.

It could have been left ambiguous and ominous. I personally wanted to see it continued, but after that teaser, I'm thinking they maybe should have left it alone.


A very interesting comparision...

And yes, i agree.

  • 06.06.2011 8:13 PM PDT

Posted by: CultMiester4000
I'm not really an Apple person (Bananas forever) but damn, that's kinda sad.

Humanity still has billions of members, Earth was mostly intact aside from eastern Africa.

The UNSC was in a position to terraform all of Reach less than 30 years after it was decimated.

The Covenant was brutalized, but they still have power.

All of this is to the point, considering that the Forunners/Precursors/ whatever will be the antagonists.

  • 06.06.2011 8:15 PM PDT

"Find where the liar hides, so that I may place my boot between his gums!" - Rtas 'Vadum

What the hell is this?

Posted by: REVOLUTION 25
Set in the aftermath of Halo 3, Master Chief returns to confront his own destiny and face an ancient evil that threatens the fate of the entire universe.
...Ok wasnt this what the first Trilogy was about??

No it was not. In the first 3, Master Chief was not following his own destiny, he was a soldier serving Humanity's. The Halo Array are a threat to the entire galaxy, not the entire universe, and the Covenant are hardly an ancient evil. The Flood would probably fill that roll, but they are not defeated.

Posted by: REVOLUTION 25
And lets think about this.
When we last left cheif,
-Humanity was decimated, all its colonies destoryed, earth in ruins, mankind left with just over 300,000 people, and little to no military forces left to speak of.

Humanity has several colonies left and there are at least 700 million people left (With probably 1 billion+ with other colonies taken into consideration). Your definition of decimated in this context is wrong.

Posted by: REVOLUTION 25
-The Seperatists where in a state of dissaray, many trying to find meaning with the loss of their gods.

And you don't think that plots could come from this?

Posted by: REVOLUTION 25
-The Covenant is destroyed, High Charity in ruins, the Prophets all dead, whats left of their fleets destoryed or in full retreat.

Assuming the Stoics were wiped out. Also, the remaining Reformist Prophets are in hiding and many potential hostile Covenant factions are still space-faring powers.

Posted by: REVOLUTION 25
This was a huge mistake 343. Cheifs story had come to an end, you should've let it stay that way.
Tell other stories, the war laster for 30 years, theres billions of them.
Just, really? No. The story just got -blam!- stupid.

The Human-Covenant war is predictable:

Humans suck, Covies rule > Humans find Forerunner mystery > Covenant want Forerunner mystery > Humans destroy Forerunner mystery > Humans rule, Covies suck > Rinse and repeat.

We never find out anything deeper than that.

  • 06.06.2011 8:17 PM PDT

The story was made to be continued.

That's why the legendary ending was put in the game.

  • 06.06.2011 8:21 PM PDT

Halo: Reach already killed the story.

This game actually looks awesome.

  • 06.06.2011 8:23 PM PDT

Are you kidding me? At least 8 colonies survived the War. Over 2 billion humans are still alive, don't assume anything.

  • 06.06.2011 8:24 PM PDT

Posted by: Sigma617
So a little off topic but...

Did anyone notice how there shouldn't have been rolling fireballs or explosions on the Dawn's outer hull?
Since the Dawn's deck were all compromised there isn't even any atmosphere to fuel it either.


Fuel? I've been hearing speculation that the little objects around the Dawn were sentinels and they were trying to put the ship under a tractor beam but it began breaking apart. It's only speculation, not fact.

  • 06.06.2011 8:33 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Holy crap.

Why is everyone taking the CGI trailer as canon?

Was Halo CE's first trailer canon?
Was Halo 2's first trailer canon?
Was Halo 3's first trailer canon?
Was ODST's?
Reach's?

NO. SO WHY IS EVERYONE FREAKING OUT.

  • 06.06.2011 8:36 PM PDT

Turkey


Posted by: Juan Teran
Halo: Reach already killed the story.

This game actually looks awesome.

  • 06.06.2011 8:36 PM PDT

I'll remain a soldier until the war is won.

The Flood are dead, gone. It was already stated by bungie that they where never seen again.

The entire population of Earth was cut in half as the first battle of Earth began... Halo Encyclopedia
But, upon further reaserch, the surviving human population was guessed to be at 16 million. At the start of the war it was over 39 billion.

  • 06.06.2011 8:39 PM PDT
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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact


Posted by: REVOLUTION 25
The Flood are dead, gone. It was already stated by bungie that they where never seen again.

The entire population of Earth was cut in half as the first battle of Earth began... Halo Encyclopedia
But, upon further reaserch, the surviving human population was guessed to be at 16 million. At the start of the war it was over 39 billion.



There could still be more of them in statis.

And gravemind should have survived the firing of 04B remember how the Precursor survived it.

  • 06.07.2011 9:57 AM PDT

"Find where the liar hides, so that I may place my boot between his gums!" - Rtas 'Vadum

Posted by: REVOLUTION 25
The Flood are dead, gone. It was already stated by bungie that they where never seen again.

Source?

  • 06.07.2011 10:03 AM PDT

Erku 'Nuhalee

Please try to be creative. Take your rants somewhere els. Thanks.

  • 06.07.2011 10:07 AM PDT

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