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Subject: Halo 4, Killing the story?

Posted by: REVOLUTION 25

Posted by: anton1792
Posted by: REVOLUTION 25
The Flood are dead, gone. It was already stated by bungie that they where never seen again.

Source?


-blam!- me, i wish i had a source. But i dont, i just remember reading that in a Daily Update when Halo 3 first came out.


You do realize there is still an entire universe the flood have under control, along with various flood forms on the other rings, don't assume, they are still out there.

  • 06.07.2011 6:49 PM PDT

Posted by: bayareaboss510
One game I'm not joking a little like 7 year old said and I quote " tell me what your dick looks like so I can imagine it in my head and beat off to it"


Posted by: TheColdWolf
If Team Swat became ranked, would there still be no shields?


Amazing!

Posted by: Juan Teran
Halo: Reach already killed the story.

This game actually looks awesome.

Que?

  • 06.07.2011 6:52 PM PDT
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"This bandicoot will be my general, he will lead my Cortex Commandos to world domination...

This time, I shall reign TRIUMPHANT!"

-Dr. Cortex

Oh crap...

I didn't take the ending cutscene from Reach into account.

Maybe they'll come up with something that isn't too corny or non-canon or dumb.

  • 06.07.2011 6:52 PM PDT
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Posted by: REVOLUTION 25
Set in the aftermath of Halo 3, Master Chief returns to confront his own destiny and face an ancient evil that threatens the fate of the entire universe.


...Ok wasnt this what the first Trilogy was about??



And lets think about this.
When we last left cheif,
-Humanity was decimated, all its colonies destoryed, earth in ruins, mankind left with just over 300,000 people, and little to no military forces left to speak of.
-The Seperatists where in a state of dissaray, many trying to find meaning with the loss of their gods.
-The Covenant is destroyed, High Charity in ruins, the Prophets all dead, whats left of their fleets destoryed or in full retreat.

What in the -blam!- hell are we going to fight this "new threat" with?



This was a huge mistake 343. Cheifs story had come to an end, you should've let it stay that way. For awhile at least. 10 years down the road this would have been awsome to hear about. The man, the ledgand, come back to life.

Tell other stories, the war laster for 30 years, theres billions of them.
Just, really? No. The story just got -blam!- stupid.


-Okay. First Earth isnt in ruins, the MAC stations are still up And i dont go by the book -blam!- you people have been reading.
-Second, Humanity is still in the billions and many Spartans still alive. Humanity STILL has ships well equiped to fight as well decommissioned Halcyon classes and others they can put into action.
-third, Covenant is NOT destroyed. Far from.
-And same goes for their fleets.



Agreed. You dont know wtf your talking about.

Master chief is the legend, which is why his legend continues.
You gonan B**ch at Nintendo for continuing the story of Princess peach being kidnapped by bowser in new super mario bros wii? Or Link for having to chase after Gannon in how many freaking games???

gonna go pissing on sega for making another game on sonic instead of other Animals?

Ya gonna go ranting to capcom for making YET another megaman exe based chip set game when EXE has ended 6 years ago? Or the X series?

Dude. Everyone wants MC. wanna know why??
....
....
.....
Wait for it...


Master Chief IS Halo. BAM!

People want MC. And SALES Speak on behalf of that.
Halo Reach, like halo wars, and odst, were unable to BREAK sales of even CE. little alone H2, H3.

You fail.

  • 06.07.2011 7:20 PM PDT

There are so many possibilities for the storyline of this game that I think it's foolish to even think that this game will ruin the series.

I didn't want to repeat what everyone has said but to sum it up:
-Humanity still has a manageable population and military with several colonies still around.
-The covenant are scattered for the moment but they can still be a possible threat.

What some of you have been saying is that the flood are no longer a threat because they were defeated on Installation 00, but they could still be in other research facilities that have not been explored. In fact, I think that the flood are still a major threat as long as the flood infested locations have been accounted for and neutralized.

So flood=possibility

My theory is that the world is a portal world like Onyx (I don't believe it's Onyx since it disentigrated into the trillions of sentinels that made up Onyx, and also because it would require the game to explain the events of "The Ghosts of Onyx" to the fans who didn't read the books) that leads to a shield world. From there anything could happen.

:)

  • 06.07.2011 8:08 PM PDT

I'll remain a soldier until the war is won.


Posted by: IXI ZeroExE IXI

Posted by: REVOLUTION 25
Set in the aftermath of Halo 3, Master Chief returns to confront his own destiny and face an ancient evil that threatens the fate of the entire universe.


...Ok wasnt this what the first Trilogy was about??



And lets think about this.
When we last left cheif,
-Humanity was decimated, all its colonies destoryed, earth in ruins, mankind left with just over 300,000 people, and little to no military forces left to speak of.
-The Seperatists where in a state of dissaray, many trying to find meaning with the loss of their gods.
-The Covenant is destroyed, High Charity in ruins, the Prophets all dead, whats left of their fleets destoryed or in full retreat.

What in the -blam!- hell are we going to fight this "new threat" with?



This was a huge mistake 343. Cheifs story had come to an end, you should've let it stay that way. For awhile at least. 10 years down the road this would have been awsome to hear about. The man, the ledgand, come back to life.

Tell other stories, the war laster for 30 years, theres billions of them.
Just, really? No. The story just got -blam!- stupid.


-Okay. First Earth isnt in ruins, the MAC stations are still up And i dont go by the book -blam!- you people have been reading.
-Second, Humanity is still in the billions and many Spartans still alive. Humanity STILL has ships well equiped to fight as well decommissioned Halcyon classes and others they can put into action.
-third, Covenant is NOT destroyed. Far from.
-And same goes for their fleets.



Agreed. You dont know wtf your talking about.

Master chief is the legend, which is why his legend continues.
You gonan B**ch at Nintendo for continuing the story of Princess peach being kidnapped by bowser in new super mario bros wii? Or Link for having to chase after Gannon in how many freaking games???

gonna go pissing on sega for making another game on sonic instead of other Animals?

Ya gonna go ranting to capcom for making YET another megaman exe based chip set game when EXE has ended 6 years ago? Or the X series?

Dude. Everyone wants MC. wanna know why??
....
....
.....
Wait for it...


Master Chief IS Halo. BAM!

People want MC. And SALES Speak on behalf of that.
Halo Reach, like halo wars, and odst, were unable to BREAK sales of even CE. little alone H2, H3.

You fail.



Sombody dosnt know whats going on.
Where to start, where to start...

The MAC stations are all destoryed, for one, the convenant made sure of that. Thats not even from the book, thats from the game.
And to quote the Halo Encyclopedia, "Half of earths population died the moment the battle for earth began."
LMfao, "many Spartans still alive"??? Wow, ur an iddiot. There is only a Handful of Spartans left, and those are all trapped inside the Dyson Sphere.
Anyone else is either MIA or dead.
Humanity used everything it had left at its disposil to defend earth. Nothing was spared.
Do you have any sources to credit ur statement?

The Covenant is in full retreat, with majority of its leaders dead or in hideing, with the Sangheili hammering away at whats left of them.


Yes, yes i will piss on those games. Cant beat the classics man, anybody here will tell you that.


Idk about anybody else but i was happy the way the story ended. Cheif had finished the fight. It was done, and the greatest hero of all could finaly rest.




[Edited on 06.07.2011 8:33 PM PDT]

  • 06.07.2011 8:31 PM PDT

Skull


Posted by: noble6sfriend
you don't know wtf you're talking about


I'm with you.

  • 06.07.2011 8:34 PM PDT

Skull


Posted by: IXI ZeroExE IXI

Posted by: REVOLUTION 25
Set in the aftermath of Halo 3, Master Chief returns to confront his own destiny and face an ancient evil that threatens the fate of the entire universe.


...Ok wasnt this what the first Trilogy was about??



And lets think about this.
When we last left cheif,
-Humanity was decimated, all its colonies destoryed, earth in ruins, mankind left with just over 300,000 people, and little to no military forces left to speak of.
-The Seperatists where in a state of dissaray, many trying to find meaning with the loss of their gods.
-The Covenant is destroyed, High Charity in ruins, the Prophets all dead, whats left of their fleets destoryed or in full retreat.

What in the -blam!- hell are we going to fight this "new threat" with?



This was a huge mistake 343. Cheifs story had come to an end, you should've let it stay that way. For awhile at least. 10 years down the road this would have been awsome to hear about. The man, the ledgand, come back to life.

Tell other stories, the war laster for 30 years, theres billions of them.
Just, really? No. The story just got -blam!- stupid.


-Okay. First Earth isnt in ruins, the MAC stations are still up And i dont go by the book -blam!- you people have been reading.
-Second, Humanity is still in the billions and many Spartans still alive. Humanity STILL has ships well equiped to fight as well decommissioned Halcyon classes and others they can put into action.
-third, Covenant is NOT destroyed. Far from.
-And same goes for their fleets.



Agreed. You dont know wtf your talking about.

Master chief is the legend, which is why his legend continues.
You gonan B**ch at Nintendo for continuing the story of Princess peach being kidnapped by bowser in new super mario bros wii? Or Link for having to chase after Gannon in how many freaking games???

gonna go pissing on sega for making another game on sonic instead of other Animals?

Ya gonna go ranting to capcom for making YET another megaman exe based chip set game when EXE has ended 6 years ago? Or the X series?

Dude. Everyone wants MC. wanna know why??
....
....
.....
Wait for it...


Master Chief IS Halo. BAM!

People want MC. And SALES Speak on behalf of that.
Halo Reach, like halo wars, and odst, were unable to BREAK sales of even CE. little alone H2, H3.

You fail.


You my friend...(whoever posted this forum up) just got owned by this comment...

  • 06.07.2011 8:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: noble6sfriend
you don't know wtf you're talking about

i second this.

  • 06.07.2011 8:54 PM PDT

Been on the forums since July 2008.

If you're reading this, I'm probably better than you in Halo 3 and Halo: Reach.

On the contrary, now the video game series can explore the biggest mystery of all, the Forerunners.

  • 06.07.2011 8:58 PM PDT

I'll remain a soldier until the war is won.


Posted by: iBurnCustom
On the contrary, now the video game series can explore the biggest mystery of all, the Forerunners.


I thought Greg Bear was doing books on them for exactly that reason.

  • 06.07.2011 8:59 PM PDT
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In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

What if it takes place hundreds of years after Halo 3? That would be enough time for some alien civilization to rebuild or it could simply be a new species altogether, previously unknown to humans and the Covenant.

  • 06.07.2011 9:09 PM PDT

Posted by: GREX
What if it takes place hundreds of years after Halo 3? That would be enough time for some alien civilization to rebuild or it could simply be a new species altogether, previously unknown to humans and the Covenant.



They said favorites are returning along with new characters.

I'm sure favorites means more than just chief and cortana, which is to say others, so this is more then likely maybe years at most after H3.

  • 06.07.2011 9:12 PM PDT
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Don't know why it calls me rubuilt gymnast 7, it's really UNSC595 in case you were wondering and I have played all of those games online

We don't know what's coming, plus it is just the Chief since he is drifting in space so it will probably have nothing to do with humanity or the covenant. So...agreed you don't know wtf you're talking about.

[Edited on 06.07.2011 9:15 PM PDT]

  • 06.07.2011 9:13 PM PDT

(ignore this reply)

[Edited on 06.08.2011 5:03 AM PDT]

  • 06.08.2011 4:57 AM PDT


Posted by: iBurnCustom
On the contrary, now the video game series can explore the biggest mystery of all, the Forerunners.


THERE you go! I was waiting for someone to say it! Honestly, what else could that huge, Forerunner-tech-looking sphere be? The flood was "supposedly" eradicated, but that didn't happen. The possibility of Forerunners still alive would be totally feasible; as advanced as they were they could probably find a way to preserve some aspect of themselves.

  • 06.08.2011 5:02 AM PDT

(ignore comment)

[Edited on 06.08.2011 5:42 AM PDT]

  • 06.08.2011 5:13 AM PDT

I'm 23, I have a house, dog, girlfriend, job and I have no interest in any fanboyism so if you're thinking about sending me a childish PM, don't be surprised when I don't call back.

Posted by: privet caboose
Holy crap.

Why is everyone taking the CGI trailer as canon?

Was Halo CE's first trailer canon?
Was Halo 2's first trailer canon?
Was Halo 3's first trailer canon?
Was ODST's?
Reach's?

NO. SO WHY IS EVERYONE FREAKING OUT.


Why do you always come up with the same response I'm thinking of typing up in these threads? It's like you're in MY HEAD!

Seriously though, this.

  • 06.08.2011 5:18 AM PDT
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I honestly just wish Bungie was making the 4th Halo. Its their story, originally their characters, and their game. Microsoft is just putting more miles on a tried and true trilogy. Milking the cash cow, so to say. I remember watching beta's of Halo:CE when MC still had an antenna on his back, from the original Bungie studios, prior to Microsoft getting involved. I say forget 343 industries, and let Bungie drive their story home!

Oh, and plus, the soundtrack just wont be the same without Marty O'Donnell. Is Steve Downes still going to be the voice? Dont screw it up 343...

  • 06.08.2011 6:05 AM PDT

For a start, there are, from what i can gether, at least 2 generations of Spartan-III's that are field active. That comprises of around 650-700 spartans. Also in the older books, not all the spartans died on Reach, do you really think Dr. Halsey would escape Castle Base without at least some spartan assistance. For example, when she finds Onyx were Mendez and Kurt are training Gen-III's she has Kelly with her, another indication of Spartan-II's surviving. So, to answer the question, what are they going to fight this new threat with, around 2 generations of Spartan-III's and if they decide to, a few surviving Gen-II's from Reach. However the Gen-II's would be a fragile thing to add to the timeline this far on. That of course is assuming that John isnt floating on a piece of Frigate debris about 1'000'000'000'000 Light years away from charted space. So we cant assume anything from 90 seconds of reveal trailer.

  • 06.08.2011 6:14 AM PDT

Sikorsky14 - Animator

i don't understand why you people don't want another halo game seriously how does it effect you. if it continues they may cancel it and ruin it for the rest of the people who would actually enjoy playing their game and give 343i a -blam!-en chance.

  • 06.08.2011 6:40 AM PDT

OR you can accept that they made it and enjoy the amazing games they make without -blam!-ing about something each time.

  • 06.08.2011 6:43 AM PDT

Adepto In Meus Campester
Posted by: ParagonRenegade
You were totally and absolutely correct in every way, I don't know why we were arguing, you're so amazing I should never have doubted you.

Posted by: ParagonRenegade
The Covenant was brutalized, but they still have power.

Hardly. The Hierarchs are out of the picture, High Charity is destroyed, the Jiralhanae are extinct, the majority of remaining Kig-Yar reverted to being pirates and brigands, and the Unggoy are fairly useless without Sangheili leadership. The Covenant is finished, unless you're referring to the Seperatists.
Posted by: Striker029
Posted by: Juan Teran
Halo: Reach already killed the story.

This game actually looks awesome.

Que?

Halo Reach broke both canon and gameplay. Provided 343 listens to the smarter members of the community (i.e. people who don't suck at Halo and actually understand the gameplay), they're guaranteed to at least get the gameplay right.

Also, with Frankie at the helm the canon should be solid. A lot of things can go wrong though, as Reach proved.

[Edited on 06.08.2011 6:54 AM PDT]

  • 06.08.2011 6:48 AM PDT

http://www.youtube.com/user/TymesRhymes

I run a mainly Halo YouTube Channel but do other things as well, check it out!

Core Design ran the Lara Croft series for 10 years and it got stale. Crystal Dynamics took over with Tomb Raider : Legend and made the series seem new and fresh.

Some of you are so hard to please. These forums complain so much about how Bungie messed up Reach and how it got stale. Seeing as 343 has some ex-Bungie guys on board and new guys as well, we should be excited at the possibility of a fresh Halo experience.

It is A CGI trailer, no idication to how the final Chief model will look like. No indication of gameplay or story yet some of you speak as if you know what the game is already.

If some of you are so certain Halo 4 will suck, just stick to Halo 1-3 and don't buy Halo 4 and continue to imagine your own story as to what happened to Chief after Halo 3. Never to buy another Halo game again.

The Halo Story should completely end at some point but shut up when you know absoulutely nothing about the current version that 343 is working on.

[Edited on 06.08.2011 7:06 AM PDT]

  • 06.08.2011 7:05 AM PDT

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