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Subject: Halo 4, Killing the story?

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Posted by: anton1792
Posted by: REVOLUTION 25
The Flood are dead, gone. It was already stated by bungie that they where never seen again.

Source?

Actually, Listen and learn.
"Dormant specimens may still exist on the remaining 6 halo rings"

  • 06.08.2011 8:37 AM PDT

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Posted by: IXI ZeroExE IXI

Posted by: REVOLUTION 25
Set in the aftermath of Halo 3, Master Chief returns to confront his own destiny and face an ancient evil that threatens the fate of the entire universe.


...Ok wasnt this what the first Trilogy was about??



And lets think about this.
When we last left cheif,
-Humanity was decimated, all its colonies destoryed, earth in ruins, mankind left with just over 300,000 people, and little to no military forces left to speak of.
-The Seperatists where in a state of dissaray, many trying to find meaning with the loss of their gods.
-The Covenant is destroyed, High Charity in ruins, the Prophets all dead, whats left of their fleets destoryed or in full retreat.

What in the -blam!- hell are we going to fight this "new threat" with?



This was a huge mistake 343. Cheifs story had come to an end, you should've let it stay that way. For awhile at least. 10 years down the road this would have been awsome to hear about. The man, the ledgand, come back to life.

Tell other stories, the war laster for 30 years, theres billions of them.
Just, really? No. The story just got -blam!- stupid.


-Okay. First Earth isnt in ruins, the MAC stations are still up And i dont go by the book -blam!- you people have been reading.
-Second, Humanity is still in the billions and many Spartans still alive. Humanity STILL has ships well equiped to fight as well decommissioned Halcyon classes and others they can put into action.
-third, Covenant is NOT destroyed. Far from.
-And same goes for their fleets.



Agreed. You dont know wtf your talking about.

Master chief is the legend, which is why his legend continues.
You gonan B**ch at Nintendo for continuing the story of Princess peach being kidnapped by bowser in new super mario bros wii? Or Link for having to chase after Gannon in how many freaking games???

gonna go pissing on sega for making another game on sonic instead of other Animals?

Ya gonna go ranting to capcom for making YET another megaman exe based chip set game when EXE has ended 6 years ago? Or the X series?

Dude. Everyone wants MC. wanna know why??
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Wait for it...


Master Chief IS Halo. BAM!

People want MC. And SALES Speak on behalf of that.
Halo Reach, like halo wars, and odst, were unable to BREAK sales of even CE. little alone H2, H3.

You fail.

Am I the only one in here for the universe, not the chief?

OT: I'd rather be speculating then playing Halo 4. The open ending was actually awesome, and it was very fun thinking about what would've happened. But playing another game? No... Just no.

  • 06.08.2011 9:13 AM PDT

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Posted by: privet caboose
Why is everyone taking the CGI trailer as canon?
It continues from the Halo 3 legendary ending. Of course it's canon.

  • 06.08.2011 9:21 AM PDT

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Posted by: anton1792
Posted by: REVOLUTION 25
The Flood are dead, gone. It was already stated by bungie that they where never seen again.

Source?

Actually, Listen and learn.
"Dormant specimens may still exist on the remaining 6 halo rings"

To paraphrase the final seconds of that video:

"It is thought that the last of the Flood's active strains were eradicated at the Ark..." It is thought? Thought by Who? Probably the UNSC, Sangheili etc. That is spoken from an in-universe context, which means that the full story is not being given.

  • 06.08.2011 2:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: REVOLUTION 25

Posted by: IXI ZeroExE IXI

Posted by: REVOLUTION 25
Set in the aftermath of Halo 3, Master Chief returns to confront his own destiny and face an ancient evil that threatens the fate of the entire universe.


...Ok wasnt this what the first Trilogy was about??



And lets think about this.
When we last left cheif,
-Humanity was decimated, all its colonies destoryed, earth in ruins, mankind left with just over 300,000 people, and little to no military forces left to speak of.
-The Seperatists where in a state of dissaray, many trying to find meaning with the loss of their gods.
-The Covenant is destroyed, High Charity in ruins, the Prophets all dead, whats left of their fleets destoryed or in full retreat.

What in the -blam!- hell are we going to fight this "new threat" with?



This was a huge mistake 343. Cheifs story had come to an end, you should've let it stay that way. For awhile at least. 10 years down the road this would have been awsome to hear about. The man, the ledgand, come back to life.

Tell other stories, the war laster for 30 years, theres billions of them.
Just, really? No. The story just got -blam!- stupid.


-Okay. First Earth isnt in ruins, the MAC stations are still up And i dont go by the book -blam!- you people have been reading.
-Second, Humanity is still in the billions and many Spartans still alive. Humanity STILL has ships well equiped to fight as well decommissioned Halcyon classes and others they can put into action.
-third, Covenant is NOT destroyed. Far from.
-And same goes for their fleets.



Agreed. You dont know wtf your talking about.

Master chief is the legend, which is why his legend continues.
You gonan B**ch at Nintendo for continuing the story of Princess peach being kidnapped by bowser in new super mario bros wii? Or Link for having to chase after Gannon in how many freaking games???

gonna go pissing on sega for making another game on sonic instead of other Animals?

Ya gonna go ranting to capcom for making YET another megaman exe based chip set game when EXE has ended 6 years ago? Or the X series?

Dude. Everyone wants MC. wanna know why??
....
....
.....
Wait for it...


Master Chief IS Halo. BAM!

People want MC. And SALES Speak on behalf of that.
Halo Reach, like halo wars, and odst, were unable to BREAK sales of even CE. little alone H2, H3.

You fail.



Sombody dosnt know whats going on.
Where to start, where to start...

The MAC stations are all destoryed, for one, the convenant made sure of that. Thats not even from the book, thats from the game.
And to quote the Halo Encyclopedia, "Half of earths population died the moment the battle for earth began."
LMfao, "many Spartans still alive"??? Wow, ur an iddiot. There is only a Handful of Spartans left, and those are all trapped inside the Dyson Sphere.
Anyone else is either MIA or dead.
Humanity used everything it had left at its disposil to defend earth. Nothing was spared.
Do you have any sources to credit ur statement?

The Covenant is in full retreat, with majority of its leaders dead or in hideing, with the Sangheili hammering away at whats left of them.


Yes, yes i will piss on those games. Cant beat the classics man, anybody here will tell you that.


Idk about anybody else but i was happy the way the story ended. Cheif had finished the fight. It was done, and the greatest hero of all could finaly rest.




If you read my comment, you would have noticed that i said i dont go by the book crap. Halo started as a game, And its story to me is Game based. If the other stories were soo important they would have received games. They didnt.

ALL MACS Destroyed? mind telling me what game said that? pls id like to know where i wasn't paying attention.

And your an idiot. Many are still alive. I didnt say a HIGH number.
ONE Spartan 2 is PLENTY on his own. =)
Also were you not aware ODST is a form of spartan? Of course not. MANY still alive.

And As far as the Sangheli chasing the covies, wow you dont know wtf your talking about. The Elites battled TRUTHS fleet. You have ANY idea how many ships the covies have? Go Replay Halo 3 campaign.



So congrats your happy with Halo 3 ending. Dont play Halo 4, Or play it. Whatever you chose, no one here gives a crap.

As for the rest of the world, (and being in sales) people want MC.

Dotn like it? Sell your 360 and go play CoD.

  • 06.08.2011 3:58 PM PDT
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Posted by: IXI ZeroExE IXI
Also were you not aware ODST is a form of spartan?

What? No they aren't. ODST's are marine special forces bascially. Far from being anywhere close to "a form of spartan".

  • 06.08.2011 4:07 PM PDT

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Posted by: privet caboose
Why is everyone taking the CGI trailer as canon?


Halo canon: Only counts if you want it too.

I'm not a Halo fan by any stretch of the imagination, but it seems to me those who are willingly give or take 'canon' only as long as it helps their arguments or fits their preconceived notions of the title's universe.

  • 06.08.2011 4:13 PM PDT

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Posted by: IXI ZeroExE IXI
If you read my comment, you would have noticed that i said i dont go by the book crap.

Self annihilating arguments are brilliant.

  • 06.08.2011 4:41 PM PDT






Idk about anybody else but i was happy the way the story ended. Cheif had finished the fight. It was done, and the greatest hero of all could finaly rest.

Then don't play Halo 4. You can sit back and pretend that "he could finally rest", but think about it for a second. The flood not all gone, humanity still needed him, stranded in dark space. You call this an opportunity for our greatest hero to "finally relax"? Leaving Cortana completely alone? I'm sorry, but that just doesn't seem like a good ending to me. Too many loose ends and cliffhangers.


Also were you not aware ODST is a form of spartan? Of course not. MANY still alive.
What are you talking about??? You are just making things up now. ODSTs are only marine special forces. They don't have the intensive training, intelligence, weapons proficiency, genetic modifications, Spartan insignia, OR armor as Spartans of any type. And they almost never have commanding positions. There is an ODST- based SPARTAN, but that is still a SPARTAN, not ODST.
And you say so many other people fail.

  • 06.09.2011 5:17 AM PDT

and then i said take out that punkass jackel

the flood
the super flood
super aids
the precursors
the ultra flood
flood precursors

  • 06.09.2011 5:31 AM PDT

Save yourselves...

One thing that I have seen not taken into account is the amount of time that he may have stayed frozen...

  • 06.09.2011 8:30 AM PDT

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Posted by: CO2 Sabotage
One thing that I have seen not taken into account is the amount of time that he may have stayed frozen...


True, but I can't imagine it would have been THAT long... AIs have a limited lifetime. I'm thinking less than 5 years have passed personally...but 5 years of floating and they arrive at a planet like this? Obviously they weren't THAT far away from it...you'd think Cortana would have detected it during the Halo 3 ending... It'll be interesting to see if 343 answers this question or ignores it completely....

  • 06.09.2011 11:20 AM PDT
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the reason that i haven't ranked up anymore in H3 is simple.
if im general and lose a single game, i will get about 20 messages asking me how much i paid for the 50 on ebay.
if im brigadier, i would get messages saying, cant get a 50, noob?

Fred, Kelly, Linda, Halsey and some spartan III's are trapped in the dyson sphere, nobody knows what happened to the spartans on Spirit of fire and no one knows where grey team or black team is.

Maybe we will get to see them in Halo 4.

Also, if the flood was being held "captive" at installation 04 and 05, doesn't that mean that there might be more flood in the universe?

  • 06.09.2011 11:51 AM PDT
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the reason that i haven't ranked up anymore in H3 is simple.
if im general and lose a single game, i will get about 20 messages asking me how much i paid for the 50 on ebay.
if im brigadier, i would get messages saying, cant get a 50, noob?

If you read my comment, you would have noticed that i said i dont go by the book crap. Halo started as a game, And its story to me is Game based. If the other stories were soo important they would have received games. They didnt.

They probably haven't made any games of the books since they dont have enough combat in them (except for First strike).

and just because you dont read the books doesn't mean that the information given in them doesn't apply to the overall story.

  • 06.09.2011 11:53 AM PDT

everyone needs to stop paying so much attention to that damn teaser. it's still a year and a half until the game comes out, the teaser apparently doesn't actually have much to do with the story (not even in-game graphics), and when it really comes down to it, all it says is "The Chief woke up because something's happenin." all the rest is speculation and overly zealous fanboys splitting hairs

  • 06.09.2011 11:59 AM PDT
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Posted by: mansos26
If you read my comment, you would have noticed that i said i dont go by the book crap. Halo started as a game, And its story to me is Game based. If the other stories were soo important they would have received games. They didnt.

They probably haven't made any games of the books since they dont have enough combat in them (except for First strike).

and just because you dont read the books doesn't mean that the information given in them doesn't apply to the overall story.


Contrary:

-Just like smallville horridly followed Superman.
-Just like Sonic X didnt follow Sonic Adventure.
-Just like Megaman EXE anime Was very different on situational outcome than the EXE game. In fact, no where in the anime did it mention ALPHA, the boss in MBN3, When the entire series was televised on each game.

Just like those few of many examples, i dont MIX books, with movies, with anime's, and comics.

NO, Im, not self annihilating, rather im being smart. Often stories get stupid or contradicting when different writers come into play and or Books are written off T.V. series and games etc..
Which is a well known fact.

  • 06.09.2011 8:51 PM PDT
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The reason they are continuing the story is because the Flood is not yet defeated. Our galaxy is a small oasis in a desert.

  • 06.09.2011 9:15 PM PDT

I like Halo games, nuff said.


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Posted by: IXI ZeroExE IXI
Also were you not aware ODST is a form of spartan?

What? No they aren't. ODST's are marine special forces bascially. Far from being anywhere close to "a form of spartan".
Maybe he's reffering to Seargent Johnson being part of the Orion (Spartan I) Program... But he is a regular marine so I have no idea what this guy is saying.

[Edited on 06.09.2011 9:49 PM PDT]

  • 06.09.2011 9:48 PM PDT

Halo Reach was killing the story. It just amazed me how much potential they had to make Reach one of the greats. Insted they just took a huge sht on the whole game and gave Halo and the Halo fans the middle finger, while they walked out the door.

So yea, I'm pretty excited to see what 343 will do.
To me... They just got the keys to a dented ferrari. Just don't do anything crazy and bring back the core of what makes Halo great. I'm 95% confident they'll do a great job.

Also. you can't honestly think the flood is compeletly gone? Halo Wars showed a prime example that the flood is all over the place. They practicly made that shield world their home. I would assume they have other planets just like that. Just a small example there of how much the flood is out and about.

  • 06.09.2011 11:02 PM PDT


Posted by: falcon8134
Halo Reach was killing the story. It just amazed me how much potential they had to make Reach one of the greats. Insted they just took a huge sht on the whole game and gave Halo and the Halo fans the middle finger, while they walked out the door.


Bunjie didn't do anything of the sort. Halo:Reach was different the previous Halo games, but that doesn't automatically make it inferior. Wars was a change from the traditional "Halo" with Master Chief, and it was a complete fail. Reach had a lot of thought and effort put into it ad they DID in fact make it a great game. That is like saying Smallville automatically sucks because it is not about Superman wuithout giving it a chance; or that Star Wars the Force Unleashed will be terrible since it's about the sith.
Different doesn't make horrible.

  • 06.14.2011 1:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: falcon8134
Halo Reach was killing the story. It just amazed me how much potential they had to make Reach one of the greats. Insted they just took a huge sht on the whole game and gave Halo and the Halo fans the middle finger, while they walked out the door.


Bunjie didn't do anything of the sort. Halo:Reach was different the previous Halo games, but that doesn't automatically make it inferior. Wars was a change from the traditional "Halo" with Master Chief, and it was a complete fail. Reach had a lot of thought and effort put into it ad they DID in fact make it a great game. That is like saying Smallville automatically sucks because it is not about Superman wuithout giving it a chance; or that Star Wars the Force Unleashed will be terrible since it's about the sith.
Different doesn't make horrible.


your logic surprises me, you say reach didn't change anything an imply that it was successful yet say halowars changed everything and "failed".

First off despite what coma and 4 other people think Reach really did mess around with everything. i have yet to see coma or the 4 other people have a reasonable solution to how the covenant even got in the system with UNSC stations in orbit.

Halowars was a epic hit and many people still praise and play it today. i personally liked the story involving a shield world and can not wait for that to be expanded on. and FYI halo was suppose to be an RTs but got changed and chief isn't halo.

that is the issue. people only associate master chief with halo and if he isn't in it and if it isn't an RTS they say "it isn't canon" or say that it "failed". yet when 3 more games are confirmed to have master chief they ask if that is milking it.


you are all idiots.

  • 06.14.2011 1:12 PM PDT

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