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Subject: How could there be new human weapons?

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The half of the ship that MC was left on at the end of Halo 3 had armories of halo 3 human guns. SMG's, MA5C's, BR55 (halo 3 version), M6G, etc. So i don't see how MC could acquire new UNSC guns that weren't in halo 3.

This could be fixed by him coming across UNSC forces, which at this time, im sure would have upgraded there tech, therefore giving MC new gear.

Or

MC modifies some of his halo 3 gear. So the guns won't be "new" in the sense that there completely different weapons. Just modified. And that would only be the guns he would be carrying, not the other halo 3 weapons left in the armories.

I think that Halo 4 would compensate for lack of new UNSC guns by giving us forerunner weapons, since i think the forerunners would play a part in Halo 4.

MC is also going to have a problem in maintaining his weapons with fresh ammo, since the only ammo is on that ruined half of a ship, so i don't expect him to come across any spare UNSC weapons on that forerunner planet. I hope this is realistically shown in the game. That MC has to actually conserve his ammo (there could be forerunner weapons if the player runs out of ammo), perhaps there could be times in the game though that Cortana brings down guns from those pods (shown in halo 2,3) from the remains of the ship.

Thoughts about all of this?

  • 06.06.2011 9:20 PM PDT

Just cause it wasn't in the previous games doesn't mean that the weapons didn't exist. Just like how there was no Spartan laser or spiker in Halo 1.

  • 06.06.2011 9:22 PM PDT

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Posted by: PatriarchOfFire
Just cause it wasn't in the previous games doesn't mean that the weapons didn't exist. Just like how there was no Spartan laser or spiker in Halo 1.


But that is easily explained. Spikers are brute weapons, and brutes were not put on the 1st Halo, and Elites disliked using brute guns. And spartan lasers just were not put on the PoA. I don't think it is easily explained if there were a WHOLE bunch of new UNSC weapons on the Forward Unto Dawn.

  • 06.06.2011 9:27 PM PDT

Posted by: haloplayer2kill

Posted by: PatriarchOfFire
Just cause it wasn't in the previous games doesn't mean that the weapons didn't exist. Just like how there was no Spartan laser or spiker in Halo 1.


But that is easily explained. Spikers are brute weapons, and brutes were not put on the 1st Halo, and Elites disliked using brute guns. And spartan lasers just were not put on the PoA. I don't think it is easily explained if there were a WHOLE bunch of new UNSC weapons on the Forward Unto Dawn.


How else will they enhance gameplay?

  • 06.06.2011 9:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: haloplayer2kill

Posted by: PatriarchOfFire
Just cause it wasn't in the previous games doesn't mean that the weapons didn't exist. Just like how there was no Spartan laser or spiker in Halo 1.


But that is easily explained. Spikers are brute weapons, and brutes were not put on the 1st Halo, and Elites disliked using brute guns. And spartan lasers just were not put on the PoA. I don't think it is easily explained if there were a WHOLE bunch of new UNSC weapons on the Forward Unto Dawn.
What do you mean A WHOLE BUNCH of new weapons?

The only one showed in that 1 and a half minute long teaser was a pistol with an attachment that shoots small grenades. I don't see why that couldn't have been plausible. The armory could have been in that part of the ship, the chief could have been woken beforehand, there are a MILLION possibilities for why that gun could have been there. Honestly, God could have just pooped it out for the Chief.

We'll know soon enough.

  • 06.06.2011 9:31 PM PDT


Posted by: haloplayer2kill

Posted by: PatriarchOfFire
Just cause it wasn't in the previous games doesn't mean that the weapons didn't exist. Just like how there was no Spartan laser or spiker in Halo 1.


But that is easily explained. Spikers are brute weapons, and brutes were not put on the 1st Halo, and Elites disliked using brute guns. And spartan lasers just were not put on the PoA. I don't think it is easily explained if there were a WHOLE bunch of new UNSC weapons on the Forward Unto Dawn.

It can be easily explained by the fact that Bungie/343 had not thought of them yet.

If the weapons don't have universe-breaking features, there is no reason to create elaborate reasons as to why they weren't in the other games; The Chief just didn't use it. That should be good enough to explain something like a new pistol or rifle.

Seriously, saying the the Autumn was not outfitted with the UNSC's most powerful infantry-held weapon for it's mission is ridiculous. I know that's the official explanation, but that is really only because people like you (no offense intended, I'm just using you as an example) think there needs to be a reason behind the introduction of new weapons.

[Edited on 06.06.2011 9:34 PM PDT]

  • 06.06.2011 9:31 PM PDT
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I want Halo 3 back how it was.

There could easilly be new weapons, that could be a bording weapon or Navy only(Yes, Master Chief is Navy, but he works with the Marines, and thus, would not have a likely personalized weapon).

I agree with everything else.

  • 06.06.2011 10:32 PM PDT

Or, MC did not use them.

  • 06.06.2011 10:32 PM PDT
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I want Halo 3 back how it was.


Posted by: EchoGamer

Posted by: haloplayer2kill

Posted by: PatriarchOfFire
Just cause it wasn't in the previous games doesn't mean that the weapons didn't exist. Just like how there was no Spartan laser or spiker in Halo 1.


But that is easily explained. Spikers are brute weapons, and brutes were not put on the 1st Halo, and Elites disliked using brute guns. And spartan lasers just were not put on the PoA. I don't think it is easily explained if there were a WHOLE bunch of new UNSC weapons on the Forward Unto Dawn.

It can be easily explained by the fact that Bungie/343 had not thought of them yet.

If the weapons don't have universe-breaking features, there is no reason to create elaborate reasons as to why they weren't in the other games; The Chief just didn't use it. That should be good enough to explain something like a new pistol or rifle.

Seriously, saying the the Autumn was not outfitted with the UNSC's most powerful infantry-held weapon for it's mission is ridiculous. I know that's the official explanation, but that is really only because people like you (no offense intended, I'm just using you as an example) think there needs to be a reason behind the introduction of new weapons.

There is no official explaination...at all. Only assumed ones num-nuts.

  • 06.06.2011 10:33 PM PDT


Posted by: RaamSkorge

Posted by: EchoGamer

Posted by: haloplayer2kill

Posted by: PatriarchOfFire
Just cause it wasn't in the previous games doesn't mean that the weapons didn't exist. Just like how there was no Spartan laser or spiker in Halo 1.


But that is easily explained. Spikers are brute weapons, and brutes were not put on the 1st Halo, and Elites disliked using brute guns. And spartan lasers just were not put on the PoA. I don't think it is easily explained if there were a WHOLE bunch of new UNSC weapons on the Forward Unto Dawn.

It can be easily explained by the fact that Bungie/343 had not thought of them yet.

If the weapons don't have universe-breaking features, there is no reason to create elaborate reasons as to why they weren't in the other games; The Chief just didn't use it. That should be good enough to explain something like a new pistol or rifle.

Seriously, saying the the Autumn was not outfitted with the UNSC's most powerful infantry-held weapon for it's mission is ridiculous. I know that's the official explanation, but that is really only because people like you (no offense intended, I'm just using you as an example) think there needs to be a reason behind the introduction of new weapons.

There is no official explaination...at all. Only assumed ones num-nuts.

I appreciate the ad-hominem attack.

I thought that the current explanation (from Bungie) for the lack of some equipment in Halo CE was because the Autumn had not been outfitted with it, not because it didn't exist.

If I was wrong, then fine, disregard my comment.

"Numb" has a "b", as a side-note.

  • 06.06.2011 10:46 PM PDT


Posted by: EchoGamer

Seriously, saying the the Autumn was not outfitted with the UNSC's most powerful infantry-held weapon for it's mission is ridiculous.


Yes, and saying that no one used said "powerful infantry-held weapon" (in any of the 5 games) is equally rediculous.

[Edited on 06.06.2011 10:50 PM PDT]

  • 06.06.2011 10:49 PM PDT


Posted by: Thugzz Deluxxxe

Posted by: EchoGamer

Seriously, saying the the Autumn was not outfitted with the UNSC's most powerful infantry-held weapon for it's mission is ridiculous.


Yes, and saying that no one used said "powerful infantry-held weapon" (in any of the 5 games) is equally rediculous.


The Spartan Laser is used in Halo 3, ODST, Reach, and Halo Wars. That's four out of six. Master Chief doesn't have access to every weapon in the UNSC's arsenal at all times, hence why we don't use the MA5B or M6D in Halo 2, even though both are still in service.

  • 06.06.2011 10:54 PM PDT
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I want Halo 3 back how it was.


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Posted by: RaamSkorge

Posted by: EchoGamer

Posted by: haloplayer2kill

Posted by: PatriarchOfFire
Just cause it wasn't in the previous games doesn't mean that the weapons didn't exist. Just like how there was no Spartan laser or spiker in Halo 1.


But that is easily explained. Spikers are brute weapons, and brutes were not put on the 1st Halo, and Elites disliked using brute guns. And spartan lasers just were not put on the PoA. I don't think it is easily explained if there were a WHOLE bunch of new UNSC weapons on the Forward Unto Dawn.

It can be easily explained by the fact that Bungie/343 had not thought of them yet.

If the weapons don't have universe-breaking features, there is no reason to create elaborate reasons as to why they weren't in the other games; The Chief just didn't use it. That should be good enough to explain something like a new pistol or rifle.

Seriously, saying the the Autumn was not outfitted with the UNSC's most powerful infantry-held weapon for it's mission is ridiculous. I know that's the official explanation, but that is really only because people like you (no offense intended, I'm just using you as an example) think there needs to be a reason behind the introduction of new weapons.

There is no official explaination...at all. Only assumed ones num-nuts.

I appreciate the ad-hominem attack.

I thought that the current explanation (from Bungie) for the lack of some equipment in Halo CE was because the Autumn had not been outfitted with it, not because it didn't exist.

If I was wrong, then fine, disregard my comment.

"Numb" has a "b", as a side-note.

Omg a typo:

Your a c0ck sucking jypsy

  • 06.06.2011 11:04 PM PDT


Posted by: RaamSkorge
You're a c0ck sucking jypsy

So.. do I have to answer a riddle to cross your bridge, or what?

[Edited on 06.06.2011 11:08 PM PDT]

  • 06.06.2011 11:07 PM PDT