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Subject: Microsoft Made A Huge Mistake With CEA!
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One day... I am gonna grow wings... A chemical reaction... Hysterical and useless... hystecial and let down and hanging around... crushed like a bug in the ground.

Rather than having CE gameplay on CE maps, we have Reach gameplay on CE maps.

Haven't Bungie and 343 learnt that remakes don't work in Reach.

Hemorhage and Pinnacle are good examples.

-Nukeface-

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I am still buying this game for the campaign alone, it looks -blam!- amazing.

[Edited on 06.07.2011 1:24 PM PDT]

  • 06.07.2011 12:42 AM PDT

If you're passionate about the thing you're talking about, I'll always lend an ear.

I heard Frankie stated in the interview that he didn't want to split the fanbase. Also in a earlier interview he stated that they understand the issues with Reach MP [Meaning they will most likely fix it]

Correct me if I'm wrong that is.

  • 06.07.2011 1:29 AM PDT

I'm 23, I have a house, dog, girlfriend, job and I have no interest in any fanboyism so if you're thinking about sending me a childish PM, don't be surprised when I don't call back.

I'll be buying it for the unchanged campaign in HD with live co op. Bungie made the perfect shooter 10 years ago, 343 are making it look better and allowing me to play it with new friends that I didn't play the original with.

  • 06.07.2011 2:10 AM PDT

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Large vehicle maps will still work well. The problem with remaking maps comes when you make remake infantry maps such as Pinnacle. The main gun of every series - CE pistol, H2 BR, H3 BR, Reach DMR - works differently and is best at different ranges. Therefore remakes of that sort will fail, they aren't designed for the gun that will be used in them.

[Edited on 06.07.2011 2:18 AM PDT]

  • 06.07.2011 2:17 AM PDT

Just becuase they say they are using reach gameplay for MP dosnt mean they are using the same weapons, they could just me Power up's and assassination ext, Just sayin

  • 06.07.2011 2:24 AM PDT

Bungie Pentathlon - who actually cares ?


Posted by: I Judge Bread I
I'll be buying it for the unchanged campaign in HD with live co op. Bungie made the perfect shooter 10 years ago, 343 are making it look better and allowing me to play it with new friends that I didn't play the original with.


This.

It's like an episode of Pimp My Game, except without that Xibit chap flailing around the screen

  • 06.07.2011 4:23 AM PDT

Stupid ass washing machine...

Posted by: I Judge Bread I
I'll be buying it for the unchanged campaign in HD with live co op. Bungie made the perfect shooter 10 years ago, 343 are making it look better and allowing me to play it with new friends that I didn't play the original with.


This!

  • 06.07.2011 4:25 AM PDT

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Posted by: I Judge Bread I
I'll be buying it for the unchanged campaign in HD with live co op. Bungie made the perfect shooter 10 years ago, 343 are making it look better and allowing me to play it with new friends that I didn't play the original with.


This!

  • 06.07.2011 4:26 AM PDT

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Posted by: TwiggyShip
Posted by: I Judge Bread I
I'll be buying it for the unchanged campaign in HD with live co op. Bungie made the perfect shooter 10 years ago, 343 are making it look better and allowing me to play it with new friends that I didn't play the original with.


This!

  • 06.07.2011 4:56 AM PDT

Will you shut the f**k up and stop complaining. Please for the love of god be quiet.

343i are doing something incredible and exactly what has been dreamt about by fans all over the globe, and yet you're still complaining and moaning like a stuck record.

So close your mouth and stop talking unless it's something constructive, useful or otherwise presented in a positive and professional manner.

  • 06.07.2011 5:00 AM PDT

I laugh at your pitifall attempts to defeat me!

Frank did say that the maps will be receiving the 'classic treatment' and that they'll be 'making sure matchmaking reflects the classic modes'.

  • 06.07.2011 5:10 AM PDT
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I agree. Remakes dont play well in Reach and we wanted CE MP, not Reach MP.

It's a cheap and half arsed move by them.

Either remake the game properly, or not at all.

Posted by: RotaryCookie
Will you shut the f**k up and stop complaining. Please for the love of god be quiet.

343i are doing something incredible and exactly what has been dreamt about by fans all over the globe, and yet you're still complaining and moaning like a stuck record.

So close your mouth and stop talking unless it's something constructive, useful or otherwise presented in a positive and professional manner.


OP did post something constructive. Much more constructive than your little hissy fit.

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  • 06.07.2011 5:26 AM PDT

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So has anyone confirmed that the campaign will be untouched save graphics? (i.e. can I still 3-shot elites mow down flood from afar with my shotgun?)

  • 06.07.2011 5:36 AM PDT

Exact science, is not an exact science.

If I were Bungie and I had a huge off switch for the Reach forum, I would press it now.

So many idiots on there it is unreal!!

  • 06.07.2011 5:39 AM PDT

Scandinavian Master Race!

Posted by: Da Muffin Man
So has anyone confirmed that the campaign will be untouched save graphics? (i.e. can I still 3-shot elites mow down flood from afar with my shotgun?)
Yup the gameplay and physics are unchanged.

  • 06.07.2011 5:43 AM PDT

I'm 23, I have a house, dog, girlfriend, job and I have no interest in any fanboyism so if you're thinking about sending me a childish PM, don't be surprised when I don't call back.


Posted by: Da Muffin Man
So has anyone confirmed that the campaign will be untouched save graphics? (i.e. can I still 3-shot elites mow down flood from afar with my shotgun?)


The game itself it completely identical, including the physics so everything you could do 10 years ago you can do now with shiny graphics and an XBL co-op buddy.

Also Achievements!

  • 06.07.2011 5:53 AM PDT
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They didn't add online multiplayer because that means they would have to add netcode. Adding netcode means they would have to change gameplay. That means we wouldn't be getting the original gameplay, but gameplay tweaked to suit online play. Am I the onlyone here who listens 343i's podcasts?

Online multiplayer was the reason many people wanted the remake, but which would you want: a failed multiplayer experience, which sucks and is barely anything like the original or a campaign only remake which is quaranteed to be successful?

They simply wanted to do something on the multiplayer part too and they decided to give us maps to Halo Reach. They can't please you, but at least they are trying their best, so stop complaining and do some research. You may even learn something.

  • 06.07.2011 5:55 AM PDT

Halo CE was considered a classic not because of its multiplayer, but because of its story.

  • 06.07.2011 5:56 AM PDT

I'm 23, I have a house, dog, girlfriend, job and I have no interest in any fanboyism so if you're thinking about sending me a childish PM, don't be surprised when I don't call back.

Posted by: tsassi2
They didn't add online multiplayer because that means they would have to add netcode. Adding netcode means they would have to change gameplay. That means we wouldn't be getting the original gameplay, but gameplay tweaked to suit online play. Am I the onlyone here who listens 343i's podcasts?

Online multiplayer was the reason many people wanted the remake, but which would you want: a failed multiplayer experience, which sucks and is barely anything like the original or a campaign only remake which is quaranteed to be successful?

They simply wanted to do something on the multiplayer part too and they decided to give us maps to Halo Reach. They can't please you, but at least they are trying their best, so stop complaining and do some research. You may even learn something.


I completely agree with you, out of all the options they could have taken I think they made the right choice by the original fans.

I played Halo:CE 10 years ago and I feel completely satisfied with what they've done and I look forward to buying it this November.

  • 06.07.2011 5:58 AM PDT


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Posted by: tsassi2
They didn't add online multiplayer because that means they would have to add netcode. Adding netcode means they would have to change gameplay. That means we wouldn't be getting the original gameplay, but gameplay tweaked to suit online play. Am I the onlyone here who listens 343i's podcasts?

Online multiplayer was the reason many people wanted the remake, but which would you want: a failed multiplayer experience, which sucks and is barely anything like the original or a campaign only remake which is quaranteed to be successful?

They simply wanted to do something on the multiplayer part too and they decided to give us maps to Halo Reach. They can't please you, but at least they are trying their best, so stop complaining and do some research. You may even learn something.


I completely agree with you, out of all the options they could have taken I think they made the right choice by the original fans.

I played Halo:CE 10 years ago and I feel completely satisfied with what they've done and I look forward to buying it this November.
This!

  • 06.07.2011 6:14 AM PDT

I laugh at your pitifall attempts to defeat me!

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Posted by: Da Muffin Man
So has anyone confirmed that the campaign will be untouched save graphics? (i.e. can I still 3-shot elites mow down flood from afar with my shotgun?)


The game itself it completely identical, including the physics so everything you could do 10 years ago you can do now with shiny graphics and an XBL co-op buddy.

Also Achievements!
In the Gamespot interview it was said that they will deliver levels exactly as they were in the original, but also include 'remastered versions'. Sounds interesting.

  • 06.07.2011 6:23 AM PDT

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Posted by: AngasBoy
Rather than having CE gameplay on CE maps, we have Reach gameplay on CE maps.

Haven't Bungie and 343 learnt that remakes don't work in Reach.

Hemorhage and Pinnacle are good examples.

-Nukeface-


You obviously don't have any idea what you are talking about. Play some Team Classic and then come back when your ignorance isn't as blazing hot.

  • 06.07.2011 6:47 AM PDT
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One day... I am gonna grow wings... A chemical reaction... Hysterical and useless... hystecial and let down and hanging around... crushed like a bug in the ground.


Posted by: RotaryCookie
Will you shut the f**k up and stop complaining. Please for the love of god be quiet.

343i are doing something incredible and exactly what has been dreamt about by fans all over the globe, and yet you're still complaining and moaning like a stuck record.

So close your mouth and stop talking unless it's something constructive, useful or otherwise presented in a positive and professional manner.


How was that not constructive critism?


I provided a valid point of view which you should consider and furthernore make a valid reply.

I am still looking forward to the campaign (which looks -blam!- amazing), but I have serious issues that 343 are simply going to ruin the multiplayer and taint my memories of classic CE fun.

  • 06.07.2011 1:23 PM PDT
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One day... I am gonna grow wings... A chemical reaction... Hysterical and useless... hystecial and let down and hanging around... crushed like a bug in the ground.


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If I were Bungie and I had a huge off switch for the Reach forum, I would press it now.

So many idiots on there it is unreal!!


Point?

  • 06.07.2011 1:24 PM PDT
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One day... I am gonna grow wings... A chemical reaction... Hysterical and useless... hystecial and let down and hanging around... crushed like a bug in the ground.


Posted by: tsassi2
They didn't add online multiplayer because that means they would have to add netcode. Adding netcode means they would have to change gameplay. That means we wouldn't be getting the original gameplay, but gameplay tweaked to suit online play. Am I the onlyone here who listens 343i's podcasts?

Online multiplayer was the reason many people wanted the remake, but which would you want: a failed multiplayer experience, which sucks and is barely anything like the original or a campaign only remake which is quaranteed to be successful?

They simply wanted to do something on the multiplayer part too and they decided to give us maps to Halo Reach. They can't please you, but at least they are trying their best, so stop complaining and do some research. You may even learn something.


Changing netcode does not mean changing gameplay.

It's just a lazy move by 343i to get this game out the door faster,

  • 06.07.2011 1:25 PM PDT

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