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Subject: I am honestly upset.

I literally almost just curled up into a ball and cried after continuing to ponder the atrocity that was committed with the decision to exclude Halo 1's multiplayer from the remake. It is honestly almost a crime in my eyes.

I have wanted a fun Halo game since I stopped playing Halo 3, which I found to have too low of a skill gap, and too slow a pace of gameplay. I thought Reach was going to do it, but boy was I wrong.

Slow movement speed, aim acceleration (making aiming extremely unresponsive), slow kill times, the list goes on.

I realize that some people like Reach, and I am happy for them. Play it. Have fun with it.

But 343 is actually going to not create a masterpiece of multiplayer epic sauce because they don't want to "fragment the Reach community?"

I'm sorry but WAKE UP!

Reach alienated an unprecedented amount of fans and it's popularity shows that. For God's sake, more people play Modern Warfare 2 still! If 10 year old multiplayer gameplay can destroy the popularity of a modern competitive shooter, then I think its obvious what that says about Reach.

If that's not bad enough, Reach is going to have to compete with Modern Warfare 3, Gears of War 3, and Battlefield 3 this fall. The amount of decimation that is going to happen to Reach's player count is so dirty it should be illegal.

YOU BLEW YOUR CHANCE TO MAKE HALO A POWERHOUSE AGAIN!

Think about it. Many Halo fans today have not even played Halo 1. They would see this remake as a completely new and modern Halo title, and would pick it up immediately if they saw it had a fully featured campaign and multiplayer like EVERY OTHER SUCCESSFUL HALO TITLE TO DATE (I don't consider ODST successful just because it seems like so few people actually enjoyed it. I liked it, but that was meant to be a campaign game from the get-go.) Now you've lumped Reach into this, so Halo Anniversary becomes a simple expansion them.

Now let's get into the real trouble here. LAN parties made this game what it is. Why? Because the competitive multiplayer was downright addicting. But the pistol was overpowered!!!! Yeah, that's why no one ever used the sniper, rockets, the plasma rifle with its freeze ability, the shotgun, etc. Please. Every gun in that sandbox was useful, and was used WAY more often then the cluttered weapon sandbox of future Halo games. But it killed in 3 shots! Yeah, if you were really good, a part of the skill gap that is absent from future Halo titles. Seriously, show me ONE person, I dare you, who said that they refused to play Halo 1 because it was too fast paced.

I am still going to get this game anyway, but I honestly know deep in my heart that I will never play a true competitive Halo title again, and it sickens me.

  • 06.07.2011 12:10 PM PDT

I DO AGREE I THINK THE HALO REACH ENGINE IN HALO ANNIVERSARY IS JUST LAZY AND TO BE A HIGH RANK IN THAT SYSTEM JUST REQUIRES A PLAYER WHO MAY BE BAD AT HALO TO PLAY IT A LOT WHICH = HIGH POINTLESS RANK

HALO 3 RANKING SYSTEM WAS SO MUCH BETTER BUT HOPEFULLY HALO 4 BRINGS A BETTER MP

APART FROM THAT IM REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO BOTH OF THEM

  • 06.07.2011 12:44 PM PDT

Agreed. I won't buy without multiplayer.

  • 06.07.2011 1:02 PM PDT

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Posted by: t3heford2
Agreed. I won't buy without multiplayer.


how did halo come to be then? The multiplayer? no, halo started haveing its the story the smoothness of the game and the way the game makes you feel while playing it. THAT is what makes halo, halo not multiplayer.

  • 06.07.2011 1:13 PM PDT

Yeah, you're right. I admit, I never played Halo Combat Evolved. I am contemplating whether I should actually buy the remake. From the trailer, the graphic look worse than the original. Halo 4, on the other hand, I'm buying regardless of whether it stinks or not. It looks bad a$$. Why 343 decided to remaster an old game is beyond me, though.

  • 06.07.2011 1:15 PM PDT


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Posted by: t3heford2
Agreed. I won't buy without multiplayer.


how did halo come to be then? The multiplayer? no, halo started haveing its the story the smoothness of the game and the way the game makes you feel while playing it. THAT is what makes halo, halo not multiplayer.

I respectfully disagree.
To some the single player ushered in a sense of intrigue and love for the universe.
For others, myself included, the multiplayer allowed for hundreds of hours of fun, competitive and fulfilling gameplay that no halo game has been able to replicate.

Furthermore, it is because of halo's multiplayer, not it's single player, that the game was picked up by MLG and held alive for so long.

The single player is indeed important, but it is as important as the multiplayer. To include only one in a "remake" of the original is an outrage and a tragedy.

[Edited on 06.07.2011 1:43 PM PDT]

  • 06.07.2011 1:21 PM PDT
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Better to be a smartass than a dumbass.

I'm just buying it for the camapaign, you know the entire reason Halo became popular in the first place.

  • 06.07.2011 1:22 PM PDT

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Posted by: Dark Rush z28
Yeah, you're right. I admit, I never played Halo Combat Evolved. I am contemplating whether I should actually buy the remake. From the trailer, the graphic look worse than the original. Halo 4, on the other hand, I'm buying regardless of whether it stinks or not. It looks bad a$$. Why 343 decided to remaster an old game is beyond me, though.



lol, you missed out, and im right with you on halo 4.

  • 06.07.2011 1:24 PM PDT

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@C9316 Thats what im trying to say.

[Edited on 06.07.2011 1:26 PM PDT]

  • 06.07.2011 1:25 PM PDT

We’re flawed because we want so much more. We’re ruined because we get these things and wish for what we had.

Is there really going to be armor abilities in the CE remake?

  • 06.07.2011 1:39 PM PDT

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Is there really going to be armor abilities in the CE remake?




I hope not!

  • 06.07.2011 1:43 PM PDT
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Reach is worse.

  • 06.07.2011 2:25 PM PDT

Posted by: t3heford2

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Posted by: t3heford2
Agreed. I won't buy without multiplayer.


how did halo come to be then? The multiplayer? no, halo started haveing its the story the smoothness of the game and the way the game makes you feel while playing it. THAT is what makes halo, halo not multiplayer.

I respectfully disagree.
To some the single player ushered in a sense of intrigue and love for the universe.
For others, myself included, the multiplayer allowed for hundreds of hours of fun, competitive and fulfilling gameplay that no halo game has been able to replicate.

Furthermore, it is because of halo's multiplayer, not it's single player, that the game was picked up by MLG and held alive for so long.

The single player is indeed important, but it is as important as the multiplayer. To include only one in a "remake" of the original is an outrage and a tragedy.
Halo was the full package. Excellent story and the best campaign ever coupled with the the best competitive mutiplayer in console history.

It was a near perfect game, cranked out by a team of 50. Accidental perfection, though, that will never be seen again :(

  • 06.07.2011 2:50 PM PDT

Posted by: Dark Rush z28
Yeah, you're right. I admit, I never played Halo Combat Evolved. I am contemplating whether I should actually buy the remake. From the trailer, the graphic look worse than the original. Halo 4, on the other hand, I'm buying regardless of whether it stinks or not. It looks bad a$$. Why 343 decided to remaster an old game is beyond me, though.
Instead of the remake, just shell out ten dollars for the real thing.

You'll be pleasantly surprised. It's still a great game, and the landscapes are gorgeous, even today, due to good design choices and ambiance.

  • 06.07.2011 2:52 PM PDT

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Posted by: t3heford2

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Posted by: t3heford2
Agreed. I won't buy without multiplayer.


how did halo come to be then? The multiplayer? no, halo started haveing its the story the smoothness of the game and the way the game makes you feel while playing it. THAT is what makes halo, halo not multiplayer.

I respectfully disagree.
To some the single player ushered in a sense of intrigue and love for the universe.
For others, myself included, the multiplayer allowed for hundreds of hours of fun, competitive and fulfilling gameplay that no halo game has been able to replicate.

Furthermore, it is because of halo's multiplayer, not it's single player, that the game was picked up by MLG and held alive for so long.

The single player is indeed important, but it is as important as the multiplayer. To include only one in a "remake" of the original is an outrage and a tragedy.
Halo was the full package. Excellent story and the best campaign ever coupled with the the best competitive mutiplayer in console history.

It was a near perfect game, cranked out by a team of 50. Accidental perfection, though, that will never be seen again :(




No, its that bungie MAGIC that makes halo so nice the way you can tell they tried so hard to make it right.

  • 06.07.2011 2:52 PM PDT

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Posted by: C9316
I'm just buying it for the camapaign, you know the entire reason Halo became popular in the first place.

  • 06.07.2011 3:41 PM PDT
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Don`t you realise that all your buying is an HD version of the Halo:CE?

  • 06.07.2011 3:45 PM PDT