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Subject: Analysis of the trailer may be completely useless.

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Remember this?

Remember this?

And this?

You remember those scenes from the games? You remember how those trailers were basically excerpts from the games and were 100% with the in-game events? You probably don't, because they weren't.

In the past, most Halo trailers have basically had nothing to do with the actually games they were presenting. Information gleaned from the Halo 4 trailer is probably entirely useless as far as judging anything about the game. So let's all just keep that in mind.

Although, new studio, new trailer approach. Maybe 343i, in addition to different trailer pacing also has different ideals on how they relate to the games.

  • 06.07.2011 2:50 PM PDT

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Amidst the snowfall, the cold does little to diminish his wishes to be free. The eagle is chained and has no way of breaking free. No matter how much he flies, he still is chained. The blizzards do nothing to break his determination and in his eyes, he will be freed, someday...

Bad habits are like chains that are too light to feel until they are too heavy to carry

That whole dive scene in Halo 2 was used, but in a different way. But it is true that this trailer might not mean much, but we do learn that it has been a little amount time since the end of Halo 3, if you want to count information from the trailer.

  • 06.07.2011 3:34 PM PDT

and this

  • 06.07.2011 3:42 PM PDT
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You can get a few things from it.

Furinstance, the Forward Unto Dawn will be in it at some point. Unicron will be involved, as that's a pretty big plot point to dispose of semi-late in the development process.

Weapons are safe, too. H2's trailer showed us the BR. H3's the AR, and Recon showed us the silenced SMG.

  • 06.07.2011 3:44 PM PDT

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Well we have learned some things from those teasers, even if they didn't end up being in the game.

Halo 2 teaser showed us dual wielding, BR and that MC goes to Earth.

Halo 3 teaser showed us Bubble Shield.

Halo 4 shows a new weapon and a built-in Jet Pack. I'm betting they're both in the game, as well as the big planet thingy.

  • 06.07.2011 4:05 PM PDT

If you're passionate about the thing you're talking about, I'll always lend an ear.

Not completely useless, just less relevant to possible canon and gameplay discussions.

  • 06.07.2011 4:08 PM PDT

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Posted by: ninjakenzen
Not completely useless, just less relevant to possible canon and gameplay discussions.


I'd go as far to say completely irrelevant to canon and gameplay discussions because everything is subjected to change.

Teasers are great for announcing that the project exists, and the tone and general idea the developers are going with that project. Not much else past that.

  • 06.07.2011 4:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: StealthSlasher2

Posted by: ninjakenzen
Not completely useless, just less relevant to possible canon and gameplay discussions.


I'd go as far to say completely irrelevant to canon and gameplay discussions because everything is subjected to change.

Teasers are great for announcing that the project exists, and the tone and general idea the developers are going with that project. Not much else past that.


It's a safe bet that Unicron will apear in the game just as the Ark portal appeared in H3.

  • 06.07.2011 4:15 PM PDT

If you're passionate about the thing you're talking about, I'll always lend an ear.

Posted by: FleetAdmiralBob
It's a safe bet that Unicron will apear in the game just as the Ark portal appeared in H3.

Transformers reference?

  • 06.07.2011 4:16 PM PDT

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Unfortunately, the teaser is less compelling than previous efforts. The animation is "less than" and the whole scenario is cheesy. Really?...as he is flying throug the ship he happens across a gun AND magazine clip? I've got high expectations though.

  • 06.07.2011 4:18 PM PDT
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Posted by: ninjakenzen
Posted by: FleetAdmiralBob
It's a safe bet that Unicron will apear in the game just as the Ark portal appeared in H3.

Transformers reference?


Indeed.

  • 06.07.2011 4:18 PM PDT

Brains beats brawn get used to it

Fear the Red Comet

Variety is the spice of life.
Long live games.
Death to all fanboys.


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Posted by: StealthSlasher2

Posted by: ninjakenzen
Not completely useless, just less relevant to possible canon and gameplay discussions.


I'd go as far to say completely irrelevant to canon and gameplay discussions because everything is subjected to change.

Teasers are great for announcing that the project exists, and the tone and general idea the developers are going with that project. Not much else past that.


It's a safe bet that Unicron will apear in the game just as the Ark portal appeared in H3.


Before you know it, it'll turn out that Unicron is an embodiment of all remaining Forerunner minds in the galaxy, and enlists the help of the Chief and Cortana to do battle with a left over Precursor avatar known only as Galactus. The ultimate showdown is in store for us.

  • 06.07.2011 4:20 PM PDT
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wtf is the Unicorn?

  • 06.07.2011 4:24 PM PDT

Brains beats brawn get used to it

Fear the Red Comet

Variety is the spice of life.
Long live games.
Death to all fanboys.


Posted by: noble6sfriend
wtf is the Unicorn?


Unicron

  • 06.07.2011 4:25 PM PDT

If you're passionate about the thing you're talking about, I'll always lend an ear.

Posted by: StealthSlasher2
The ultimate showdown is in store for us.

Dude Unicron will destroy Galactus, Galactus would need some kind of scout [Master Chief] to find planets for him to consume so he could fight.

  • 06.07.2011 4:28 PM PDT

The Forerunner, the Great Journey, and Heaven Theory

[Announcement Trailer] Halo: Forerunner

Posted by: Agustus
I lol'd at the absurd miscommunication that occurs whenever dibbs post something. Perhaps his brain is so highly evolved that he can no longer clearly communicate with lesser life forms, even among his own species.

Posted by: StealthSlasher2

Posted by: noble6sfriend
wtf is the Unicorn?


Unicron
No, no, Unicorn.

Also, discussion isn't limited so much by the fact that we can't definitively figure out what's going on as it is by the mindless brain dead horde who will drown out everything with their idiocy.

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  • 06.07.2011 4:31 PM PDT

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I'm thinking that the Forerunners are now directly involved in this Halo.
Side note: what the hell happened to the good 'ol Majolnr VI? Master Chief's armor looks way different, and he has been in cryo for who knows how many years/days/months/minutes...

  • 06.07.2011 4:31 PM PDT
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The death star?? is that the planet from the Forerunner Legends episode?

  • 06.07.2011 4:31 PM PDT

Brains beats brawn get used to it

Fear the Red Comet

Variety is the spice of life.
Long live games.
Death to all fanboys.


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Posted by: StealthSlasher2

Posted by: noble6sfriend
wtf is the Unicorn?


Unicron
No, no, Unicorn.

Also, discussion isn't limited so much by the fact that we can't definitively figure out what's going on as it is by the mindless brain dead horde who will drown out everything with their idiocy.


But even without the idiocy of people, it doesn't leave us much to figure out. Chief is awake, ship is even closer to the Legendary planet. Not much else to go on other than making up random things as a joke.

  • 06.07.2011 4:35 PM PDT


Posted by: wu haoxuan
Well we have learned some things from those teasers, even if they didn't end up being in the game.

Halo 2 teaser showed us dual wielding, BR and that MC goes to Earth.

Halo 3 teaser showed us Bubble Shield.

Halo 4 shows a new weapon and a built-in Jet Pack. I'm betting they're both in the game, as well as the big planet thingy.
Don't forget the silencer on the pistol.

  • 06.07.2011 4:38 PM PDT

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Posted by: ninjakenzen
Posted by: FleetAdmiralBob
It's a safe bet that Unicron will apear in the game just as the Ark portal appeared in H3.

Transformers reference?


Indeed.


Let the Fan-boy crossover fanfiction begin.

  • 06.07.2011 4:40 PM PDT

If you're passionate about the thing you're talking about, I'll always lend an ear.

Posted by: StealthSlasher2
But even without the idiocy of people, it doesn't leave us much to figure out. Chief is awake, ship is even closer to the Legendary planet. Not much else to go on other than making up random things as a joke.

^this and the odd argument.
But I prefer toying with the "idiots" sometimes, which is why I go on the Reach forums.

  • 06.07.2011 4:40 PM PDT

The Forerunner, the Great Journey, and Heaven Theory

[Announcement Trailer] Halo: Forerunner

Posted by: Agustus
I lol'd at the absurd miscommunication that occurs whenever dibbs post something. Perhaps his brain is so highly evolved that he can no longer clearly communicate with lesser life forms, even among his own species.

Posted by: StealthSlasher2
Here's my attempt...

The trailer opens up with what seems like space but is actually just highlighting electrical impulses as they travel through the Chief's heart, nerves, and brain. Going purely from this display, I feel it is likely the game will at least mention, if not specify, the kind of human-A.I. connection that will be the next step in the evolution of the human race (as mentioned briefly in Halsey's Journal as well as the Reach Data Pads).

Additionally, an important aspect to focus on is the giant (what looks to be a gateway to a Micro-Dyson Sphere) hole that Chief is drifting towards at the end. It wasn't in the legendary ending of Halo 3, despite us getting a pretty good look at the majority of the planet. I'd venture a guess and say Bungie didn't include for a reason, whereas 343 did (for another reason). How and why? Who knows; but it seems like there will at least be some subtle changes in how the story progresses from point A to point B, if not entirely different scenarios than what Bungie imagined. Not a bad thing, just different.

  • 06.07.2011 4:43 PM PDT


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Posted by: wu haoxuan
Well we have learned some things from those teasers, even if they didn't end up being in the game.

Halo 2 teaser showed us dual wielding, BR and that MC goes to Earth.

Halo 3 teaser showed us Bubble Shield.

Halo 4 shows a new weapon and a built-in Jet Pack. I'm betting they're both in the game, as well as the big planet thingy.
Don't forget the silencer on the pistol.


I like how it makes absolutely no sense that he would put an attachment on a weapon while escaping an explosion in space. That was not my favorite trailer... but I am really excited about the game.

  • 06.07.2011 4:43 PM PDT

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My issue is the pacing, it just sucked. Those youtube links in the OP all had feeling and emotion, well paced action and just resonate with me now as much as they ever did. The Halo 4 trailer did not have any of that, it looked like a talented but amateur attempt to make a Halo trailer.

  • 06.07.2011 4:48 PM PDT