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Subject: Are the monitors really more advanced then Cortana?
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I don't believe so. Cortana has showed she thinks "outside of the box" on quite a few occasions.

Monitors are very much so "in the box".

Cortana developed the plan to activate the 04B before 343 was even aware of it.

  • 06.08.2011 3:32 PM PDT

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I don't believe so. Cortana has showed she thinks "outside of the box" on quite a few occasions.

Monitors are very much so "in the box".

Cortana developed the plan to activate the 04B before 343 was even aware of it.


Exactly. Over the course of the games/novals we've seen Cortana being quite creative with plans, but 343 and 2401 both state that they have to follow protocol.

  • 06.08.2011 3:36 PM PDT

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Posted by: ajw34307
Credit to me for posting that. :)

We don't know for sure, really. One might argue that AIs like Cortana are more advanced because they're not compartmentalised and restricted by protocols for specific tasks, they're free to process everything they wish.

Also, Forerunners create their AI's from scratch whilst the UNSC clones shiz'.

  • 06.09.2011 4:16 AM PDT

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Posted by: Snake Archer
I don't believe so. Cortana has showed she thinks "outside of the box" on quite a few occasions.

Monitors are very much so "in the box".

Cortana developed the plan to activate the 04B before 343 was even aware of it.


Exactly. Over the course of the games/novals we've seen Cortana being quite creative with plans, but 343 and 2401 both state that they have to follow protocol.

Yeah.

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MB waged a battle on OB with a fleet of millions of ships, I think it is more advanced than our dear Cortana.

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Posted by: flamedude
MB waged a battle on OB with a fleet of millions of ships, I think it is more advanced than our dear Cortana.

He lost.

  • 06.09.2011 5:50 AM PDT

on reach u hand keyes cortana, but could of been like half of her made from forunner tech they found and added her to like the orignal to maybe make her live longer, or was it jsut cortana. this bit confused me... if u know what i mean

  • 06.09.2011 6:42 AM PDT

has anybody put much weight into cortana's relationship with john? i dont think any of the other ai's in the series can be compared to her because of her incredibly close relationship to him. we also have dont have much context for the others.
i think cortana is certainly special

  • 06.09.2011 6:59 AM PDT

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Unarguable. Without Halsey's mind humanity would never have won the war.

Human AIs are much less restricted by protocols, they are NOT compartmentalised though. The responses of the Monitors are based off what their protocol dictates them to do, human smart AIs can pretty much do whatever they like.

That's a good point.
Hmm... maybe it was just a oversight by bungie when making monitors?

Or maybe Monitors are meant to be "dumbed down" so they can just follow orders without hesitation.


I think the latter is more likely. The Forerunners wouldn't want to take the chance of their Monitors questioning why the Flood have been locked up, then releasing them because of rampancy-induced idealism and defiance. So the Forerunners drew up strict containment protocols and the like to limit the behaviour of the Monitors.

Didn't help MB.

  • 06.09.2011 7:58 AM PDT


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Posted by: ajw34307

Posted by: ninjakenzen
Posted by: ajw34307
Unarguable. Without Halsey's mind humanity would never have won the war.

Human AIs are much less restricted by protocols, they are NOT compartmentalised though. The responses of the Monitors are based off what their protocol dictates them to do, human smart AIs can pretty much do whatever they like.

That's a good point.
Hmm... maybe it was just a oversight by bungie when making monitors?

Or maybe Monitors are meant to be "dumbed down" so they can just follow orders without hesitation.


I think the latter is more likely. The Forerunners wouldn't want to take the chance of their Monitors questioning why the Flood have been locked up, then releasing them because of rampancy-induced idealism and defiance. So the Forerunners drew up strict containment protocols and the like to limit the behaviour of the Monitors.

Didn't help MB.


some sub routine protocol dosnt allow Human Ai's to harm humans

  • 06.09.2011 8:02 AM PDT

MB was split in half for those 100 000 years, obviously he was but a shadow of his late-h3 self during that time.

[Edited on 06.09.2011 8:08 AM PDT]

  • 06.09.2011 8:07 AM PDT

Mendicant Bias is less adwanced because Mendicant Bias defeated the ramparcy state in few milion years but cortana defeated her ramparcy state(atleast half of it) in one game

  • 06.09.2011 8:12 AM PDT

covenant clones forreruner ai's not humanity

  • 06.09.2011 8:19 AM PDT

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Posted by: Mercenary111

Posted by: TheGreenAlloy

Posted by: ajw34307

Posted by: ninjakenzen
Posted by: ajw34307
Unarguable. Without Halsey's mind humanity would never have won the war.

Human AIs are much less restricted by protocols, they are NOT compartmentalised though. The responses of the Monitors are based off what their protocol dictates them to do, human smart AIs can pretty much do whatever they like.

That's a good point.
Hmm... maybe it was just a oversight by bungie when making monitors?

Or maybe Monitors are meant to be "dumbed down" so they can just follow orders without hesitation.


I think the latter is more likely. The Forerunners wouldn't want to take the chance of their Monitors questioning why the Flood have been locked up, then releasing them because of rampancy-induced idealism and defiance. So the Forerunners drew up strict containment protocols and the like to limit the behaviour of the Monitors.

Didn't help MB.


some sub routine protocol dosnt allow Human Ai's to harm humans

Okay.

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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact

A cyver fight between the two would result to a curb stomb in favor of the Forerunner AI.

-Iona got pwned by Prism
-Cortana would have been purged by spark if she didn't used that index as cannon fodder

Many others

While it's true that monitors follow protocol,it's because the 4runners don't risk their capture by the flood.

A Forerunner AI is far more advanced then a Human AI

  • 06.09.2011 9:10 AM PDT

I'd say Cortana is a match , to any monitor class A.I.

But there is no chance she could come close to a contender class A.I.

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Cortana struggled with the burden of alpha halo, while MB controls 5 at a time during Cryptum.

In Evolutions, Cortana is on the verge of "Death" after being joined to the gravemind between Halo 2 and 3,

MB converses with "the captive" (precursor) for 43 years and then Chooses to enter rampancy.

  • 06.09.2011 9:15 AM PDT

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Posted by: AnubissWarior
Mendicant Bias is less adwanced because Mendicant Bias defeated the ramparcy state in few milion years but cortana defeated her ramparcy state(atleast half of it) in one game


No.

Mendicant Bias was one of the most advanced AI constructs to have existed. He became metastable after 100,000 years (NOT a "few million") and Cortana is only just turning rampant.

  • 06.09.2011 10:06 AM PDT

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We don't really know what being in the ring and with gravemind has done to Cortana. Her life could have been expanded by many years. Also Halesy was looking for a way to stop rampancy in AI. You never know what she could have found.

  • 06.09.2011 10:30 AM PDT

If you're passionate about the thing you're talking about, I'll always lend an ear.

They could also add cliche ideas to increase cortana's lifespan, such as forerunner technology being used to improve the capacity of her knowledge.

Who knows?
Just gonna have to wait for H4.

  • 06.09.2011 10:47 AM PDT

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Posted by: ajw34307
Credit to me for posting that. :)

We don't know for sure, really. One might argue that AIs like Cortana are more advanced because they're not compartmentalised and restricted by protocols for specific tasks, they're free to process everything they wish.


This.

Also, according to Halo: Reach (DAMN me for citing that -blam!- game as canon), one of Cortana's fragments was based on Forerunner technology. So, it's possible.

  • 06.09.2011 1:55 PM PDT

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