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Subject: Official Halo 2 PC Suggestion Thread
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*sorry for my absence, i was working on my computer and halo ce level...*
...and all i have to say is wow.

OK first off NO CUSTOM AVITARS! We would have inmature areses running around with inapropriate symbols on their arms and back. It would be jsut disgraceful.

The most recent post...
Optional health bar? That is a good Idea. No, im not being sarcastic. It puts that small challange back in. Granted they would have to slightly modify the engine *maby...*, but that would be a good option.

Now for the second recent post...
When Doom 3 came out, the current cards had a hard time with it too. New games with great graphics always push the limit of the current graphics. Halo's graphics were slightly diffrent though, "everything" *meaning what we got from halo xbox* was built for a 640 by 480 screen, ie a TV. What Gearbox did was take everything, port it to computer with few modifications to the levels and their graphics, and got somthing that could run at 1600x1200. the problem being that the game was optimised for that 640x480. I think you can imagine what happens when you *theoreticaly* run halo pc on xbox, major arse lag. Y? Its becasue the graphics card was built for that 640x480.

Confusing? Confused? Queasy? Headach? Diareah? Dry mouth? GOOD! Im confused at what I said also! ☺♥☻

[Edited on 3/9/2006]

  • 03.09.2006 7:24 PM PDT

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BRING BACK RACE!!! Omg I love that gametype, flipping people up and over and sideways and backflips galorezzz. I personally would take that over territories. Maybe turn off vehicle damage, that way we can have some WMX (like BMX but with warthogs). That would be awesome.

  • 03.09.2006 8:56 PM PDT
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One thing i dont get.... Why would they make it for visita and not for Windows XP instead? Why would you waste money for visita just for a game?

  • 03.10.2006 12:51 PM PDT
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One thing i dont get.... Why would they make it for visita and not for Windows XP instead? Why would you waste money for visita just for a game?


Come on man, see between the lines! Bungie is owned by Microsoft. Microsoft makes the Windows OS. In order to hype up their new OS and entice people to buy it, they're releasing Halo 2 for the PC on Vista only. They're hoping that there are a ton of Halo fanboys out there that will buy Vista, solely for the sake of being able to play Halo 2 on the PC.

As to your question about why anyone would buy Vista:
Windows XP is over six years old. We are currently in the longest ever drought between new MS OS releases (Ignoring Server 2003 OSes). A new OS is just that....new. Better. Faster. Prettier. More user-friendly. More technically oriented. It will be as big of a step up in OS technology, as XP was from 98. As Americans, we're all about progress. Vista is simply the next step in OS progression. Guess what? There will be another MS OS after Vista. There will be another MS OS after that one. There will be another...etc, etc, and so on and so forth.

Why does Toyota release a new version of the Corolla every year? Conversely, why doesn't Subaru release a new WRX ever year, dangit!?

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  • 03.13.2006 11:35 PM PDT
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One thing i dont get.... Why would they make it for visita and not for Windows XP instead? Why would you waste money for visita just for a game?

One thing I don't get.... Why would they make Halo for Xbox and not for PC instead? Why would you waste money for the Xbox just for a game?

Exactly. Because you WOULD buy an Xbox, just because Halo is there. Does everybody understand me? You would buy Windows Vista for Halo 2 PC, just like you would have bought Xbox for Halo.

But I understand if you are on a strict budget and can't afford even a half-decent gaming-rig, let alone Vista, it took me years to get this one.. :)

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  • 03.14.2006 4:01 AM PDT
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There is no race in Halo2? Man, that bites almost as bad as destructible warthogs.

+1 for race and the option to turn off vehicle damage in Halo2PC.

  • 03.14.2006 4:53 AM PDT

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oh yeah. remake sidewinder. I know containment is good, but I'd like a re-make of sidewinder, and some other levels, Hang 'em high, prisoner, etc. that'd be awesome. Include flamethrower and fuel rod gun too. ATV of course, I'd love to see how that would feel.

  • 03.14.2006 11:13 PM PDT
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Ok here are my suggestions, listen up cause they are important:

First off the reason the netcode was so bad is because the game is a server side game. Most games now-a-days are client side, meaning that you still lag just as much but you don't see it and when you shoot someone in the head it actually hits them in the head. The disadvantages to a client side game is that the bullets sometimes follow you around corners and it is a lot easier to create hacks with a client side game. The advantage of course would be a good netcode. I don't know where you heard about this 56k thing, but its bull-blam!-.

MAKE HALO 2 PC EXTREMLY COMPETITIVE!
Lets face it, halo 2 for the xbox was made for noobs and the competitive community sucked because there wasn't enough distance in the amount of skill from a noob and a skilled player. Put the pistol back in and make it a game that someone needs to get good at. This way players work toward getting good instead of reaching their prime in less then a week and then stop playing the game.

The overall physics of halo 2 was weird. I would like to see it fixed. Sure the warthogs were more realistic how they exploded and didn't fly as much, but it wasnt fun. I didn't like the halo 2 engine that much for the xbox. I thought the halo 1 engine was better.

Theres about 1000 more things I could say, but im too lazy to write them and I'm hoping bungie will fix halo 2 up. Overall just make halo 2 more like halo 1, but with better graphics and netcode.

  • 03.15.2006 1:20 AM PDT
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what's weird about the physics?

  • 03.15.2006 4:08 AM PDT
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Well, I'm sorry but please don't talk about the physics, even if you whine how horrible it is for a whole century it's never going to change, becasue people want Halo 2 for the PC just the way it is, with stuff added to the MP, the single player will never change and this includes the physics, which will not change either for the MP. Wow, long sentence :)

Also, about the avatars, bungie can just have that to a limit, like a couple dozen things you can mix and match the avatar in and thats it. Personally a avatar is cool, gives you this feeling that your acutually someone, not just a person who hopped in this server and started blasting away. People go, hey wait a minute I know this guy, I saw this guy before.


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  • 03.17.2006 3:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: Greek
what's weird about the physics?


Halo 2's latency kills the physics. In a typical online match, dead bodies will fall through floors and twitch uncontrollably because the physics can't keep up with the game.

  • 03.17.2006 4:41 PM PDT
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then halo 2's physics are fine.

this time the porting is being done internally.

that means no-one should worry about lag issues. only if you have a slow connection like ISDN (128kbps) and slower. with fast connections you will experience lag, only, if the equipment that routes the data: has technical problems and/or the network is congested and/or your equipment and/or windows and/or halo 2 is misconfigured and/or is damaged/corrupted. the obvious reasons that everybody should know.

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  • 03.18.2006 5:38 AM PDT
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We should definitely have fuel rod cannons in H2PC multiplayer. Definitely.

And a buncha remakes of the original Halo maps, and some Halo PC ones too. Danger Canyon, Ice Fields, Death Island and Timberland on H2PC would be awesome.

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  • 03.18.2006 9:00 AM PDT

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We should definitely have fuel rod cannons in H2PC multiplayer. Definitely.

And a buncha remakes of the original Halo maps, and some Halo PC ones too. Danger Canyon, Ice Fields, Death Island and Timberland on H2PC would be awesome.


So basically what I said lol. Yeah I'd like the flamethrower too.

  • 03.18.2006 9:17 AM PDT

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improve the shotgun, it's pretty bad, I like the halo shotgun better.

  • 03.20.2006 1:38 PM PDT

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Posted by: Greek
what's weird about the physics?


Halo 2's latency kills the physics. In a typical online match, dead bodies will fall through floors and twitch uncontrollably because the physics can't keep up with the game.


I think the latency issues may have been a limitation of the Xbox. I understand only the host Xbox will see certain explosions and such. Being on a PC platform should cure this.

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I didn't read every one of your points, because well, I do have fragments of my life remaining, and I must spend them well. However, I don't know if you said it, but I would like a MAP EDITOR FOR RETARDS, like Far Cry Instincts for the Xbox has, because I hate using Halo Custom Edition to edit maps, it's too hard. I say co-operate with Ubisoft to develop the Map Maker/Editor. You should also be able to select weather and time of day (nighttime Lockout anyone?) and other things the Far Cry editor can't do. I would like to see it possible that you can import maps and edit them rather than having to make a whole new one if you just want to put rockets on lockout.

Basically I want a user-friendly map editor that can do ANYTHING I want.

  • 03.20.2006 2:25 PM PDT
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*small list off of 1001 things to not put into Halo 2 PC*
-ATV
-Custom Avitars
-Noobie Map Editor
-Linux Servers
-Broadband Only
-"MAP EDITOR FOR RETARDS"


This is a partial list I am trying to compile. This is how I feel.

I can easily create my own custom maps for ce, BUT that is because I learned how to do it by both by my self, and being active over at halomods.com. Creating a map should not be for a casual player. You need to dedicate a portion of your life to create a map; not jsut a few hours to create a crap pile for a map. I have been working on my map for almost a year now. I am taking my time and doing a good, quality job on it. I just hate it when I dl a map and find out it is one of those half-arse maps that is full of glitches and no imagination. With the current tools you can do basically anything within the confines of the game engine, but you have to have the knowledge and the ability to unlock it.

  • 03.20.2006 3:15 PM PDT

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Posted by: Boo_Diddly
Some times I feel like smashing my head into my desk every time I read a bad post. I'm glad that I don't because this thread probably would have killed me by now.
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*small list off of 1001 things to not put into Halo 2 PC*
-ATV
-Custom Avitars
-Noobie Map Editor
-Linux Servers
-Broadband Only
-"MAP EDITOR FOR RETARDS"


This is a partial list I am trying to compile. This is how I feel.

I can easily create my own custom maps for ce, BUT that is because I learned how to do it by both by my self, and being active over at halomods.com. Creating a map should not be for a casual player. You need to dedicate a portion of your life to create a map; not jsut a few hours to create a crap pile for a map. I have been working on my map for almost a year now. I am taking my time and doing a good, quality job on it. I just hate it when I dl a map and find out it is one of those half-arse maps that is full of glitches and no imagination. With the current tools you can do basically anything within the confines of the game engine, but you have to have the knowledge and the ability to unlock it.


I agree. It can't just take an hour or two of work to make a map work, I've hand-drawn ideas for maps, but I was never able to make it work. But I'd like the ATV to come back, but broadband only? I think 56K should be seperated from the high-speed connections. Now I don't know what Linux is though, is it an OS or something? could someone explain to me?

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  • 03.20.2006 3:47 PM PDT
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linux is a *mostly free* os that anyone can download. some people in this thread want a halo dedicated server to only run on linux, but the problem with that is not everyone can have the luxury of taking a pos OS and getting it to run on a computer. for halo pc and ce there is a separate dedicated server exe that you can download for windows. anyone can download it, you don't need lamux to run it, and best of all, its free.

as for the atv, bungie said that they could not get the atv to work correctly. a few ce levels do have an atv in them, but they are always glitchy and hard to control. thats basically the same reason why they did not incoperate those 2-legged beasts that you could ride in the first halo game. some things jsut won't work.

now on teh other hand, do you remember the graphics from the trailer? I think that we may jsut be able to have those on the pc, which would be jsut sweetacular IMO.



oh ya, it does take quite awhile to properly plan out, "assemble", test, and run a full radiosity on a level. *in the one update with the movie, they said those huge AC units were for cooling the radiosity servers *or whatever*. I can believe that, it takes almost 8 hours to do a lo-quality radiosity on my level. think about the immense size of the levels they are doing O.O. and jsut think, if they re-export the level from their 3d studio program... they have to do radiosity on it again... even if they moved only 1 verticy. ow

  • 03.21.2006 2:31 PM PDT
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Keep in mind that they have access to much better, faster parts for their computers. Radiosity may take half or a third of the time for them. They are doing alot more than radiosity with those computers, and there are alot more than 1 person using them I would think.

  • 03.21.2006 2:59 PM PDT
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*All of the above is the opinion of the user: WartHogRacerman3. Complaints can be forwarded to his secretary.

I own an HDTV [12/30/07]

I have a great idea, make Halo 2 for Widows XP or Linux!

[Edited on 3/21/2006]

  • 03.21.2006 6:46 PM PDT