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Subject: Official Halo 2 PC Suggestion Thread
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Just because its doable, and cool, doesn't mean they are going to do it. Like someone said, they aren't going to reprogram the engine, so stop asking for destructable environments.

  • 02.15.2006 2:08 PM PDT
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Lol if you were going against some one with the old pistol when they are being dual weilded from Halo CE then you are gunna be fried! Honestly, 2 Pistols in both hands and your done!

Hmm, i reccomend a release date :P

  • 02.15.2006 3:11 PM PDT
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Halo wasn't even made for more then 16 people the reason other games have larger numbers is because that is there selling point. Look battlefield 2 when you think of Battle's you think about BIG ones so they had to put 64 player support. Unreal2k4 had 32 max, but there is a reason there isn't 64 max because it was not made for it and wouldn't work well in the game.
Plus the games would probably be to crowded, imagine lockout with 32 players, and it would also take away from those moments of not seeing anyone and the suspense is building up and then you see someone etc... If they did make it for 32 players at least make new maps for it.

  • 02.15.2006 3:26 PM PDT
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Theres a difference between vehicle damage and environmental damage. You could do vehicle damage in halo 1. its a separate model that isn't lighted very complexly. There are separate models for all the damaged states of a vehicle. Environmental damage wouldn't work that way. Environments are models that are lighted with radiosity, which is complex. You can just do radiosity on the fly. Bullet holes are decals, which are fine for small things, but huge chunks out of buildings aren't going to look very good.

  • 02.15.2006 3:50 PM PDT
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sugestions for new wepons: Uzi, maibe some sort of artilery canon, an on-demand air-stricke or maibe some sort of human backup dager.

vehicle sugestions: helicopter, humer, flyable longsord fighter, fghiter jet.

  • 02.15.2006 6:42 PM PDT
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so they promised it... it didnt come... such is life. did you really suggest that a building could rebuild after awhile, like how a decal disapears? man... first, if i blew a hole in the wall i expect it to stay there, second having the wall rebuild would probably take even longer to do that just a destructable environment. So if we did have the bases on coagulation be destructable, what happens to your spawn points? a whole lot of hell. there is already a good deal of spawn killing as it is, and it is a problem, but then if you go and make it so that the walls that help keep you alive can be busted down... spawn camping will reach new levels.

lol spartan 012, two pistols in both hands, so now you can hold 4 pistols? im sure you just meant 1 in each hand... right?

wait chewey gumball i thought the warhog just had pieces that broke off, with the aplication of some decals and particals it made it look all nice (or rather not so nice). completely replacing the model sounds alittle unnessesary, and problematic.

ah smart AI, first take a look at halo 1's AI, and now look at Halo 2's AI, quite a few differences, besides advances in artifical intelligence have come alittle further since the release of Halo 2. with the nature of ports, they are meant to bring the same experience to another platform, not to alter it, despite how some seemingly subtle some changes may be.

and now for cheesemaster

1. Uzi? have you even used the SMG?
2.Artilery cannon, like an anti vehicle weapon? or a mortar? rockets seem like a good medium...
3.a target painter for air borne assault... how is that used in water works?
4. back up dagger, like a melee? within the confines of the halo universe a combat knife would probably just bend after a use or two, extreme strength and all.
5. helicopter, although it would be nice for a human counter to the banshee, its alittle unrealistic, humans dont have that tech for it to look or work right. i suppose it could but thats more effort than its worth.
6.hummer... there is a warthog in the game!
7. a long sword? what was the last space battle you played in the game?
8. fighter jet... the banshee covers that.
9. have you even played halo before?
10. no seriously, have you?

-Fooluaintblack

  • 02.15.2006 7:24 PM PDT
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Well, first of all, bungie is probably gonna keep the single player how it is, except with more graphical updates, but as singleplayer it'll probably stay excatly the same. Now in multiplayer thats a different story, first of all it would be cool to fly some fighters, the longsword is a small troop carrier as well a fighter so a longsword fighter would be cool, you attack the base on a raid, unleash the squad of 4, and then get out of there. That would open up so many more tatical ideas.

[Edited on 2/15/2006]

  • 02.15.2006 7:27 PM PDT
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Well, having it as stock would be better, as people will play more with stock than on customs. Well, I think more people will play stock than customs, at least in the beginning.

  • 02.15.2006 8:51 PM PDT
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Yeh that is what i meant Blackness, Halo 2 PC will require a descructible environment i can promise on that one, with all the good stuff...

  • 02.16.2006 4:05 AM PDT
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One of the best games ever, is coming to pc, finally!!
Yet, someone actually though that making it windows Vista only was a great idead......
Someone is gonna get fired for sure.....
Hell....i didn't buy an Xbox and that only costed 200$ with halo 2!!!
Who will buy a new hardware compatible PC, and software, to play 1 game?
Not me for sure........plus I never buy a new operative system for at least 1 year of coming to the market.

This will be the worst sell yet. Plus, the hardware compatibilty list hasn't even come out, so for all we know, we could be looking on changing the whole hardware on a machine.

Well, who else thinks that making it a windows Vista only, is a very very bad idea? Don't you think we should make some kind of official complaint from the gaming community to bungie?

Either way.........I won't buy the game. Only if it goes XP.

  • 02.16.2006 4:18 AM PDT
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They know there are people like you. They aren't going to change their descision.

There aren't that many models. Only 2 or 3. The stuff that falls off is just like scenery.

  • 02.16.2006 12:10 PM PDT
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More variable melee damage. I mean, come ON! Being smacked down with a rocket launcher to the face is going to do more damage than a simple pistol being whacked into someones chest.

Bring back the flamethrower! (It pz0wns0rs energy sword badly) and it'd be nice to have a new vehicle as well (like the scorpion ^^).

Lan/internet co-op! I mean COME ON! SERIOUSLY! I really felt pissed off by that lack on H1.

Some bots would be nice.

VoIP, netcode optimization, no autoaim, blah, other than that leave everything as it is. I mean, this isn't a new game, it's Halo 2! So we shouldn't request (for example) deformable landscapes... (which reminds me of Magic Carpet 2, now THAT was a game back in 1995 with deformable landscape).

  • 02.16.2006 12:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: cheesemaster
sugestions for new wepons: Uzi, maibe some sort of artilery canon, an on-demand air-stricke or maibe some sort of human backup dager.

vehicle sugestions: helicopter, humer, flyable longsord fighter, fghiter jet.


About the best suggestion I can think of for H2 on the PC is to have Bungie implement a spell checker in the forums....

How do you spell "fighter," correctly one time, then misspell it just a comma away?

Note to cheesemaster: I am not attempting to be rude or dispassionate towards you for whatever reason you don't spell very well. Instead, this post is meant semi-humorously at the lack, on the whole (as in, not solely against you), of proper spelling, grammar, punctiation, and sentence structure within the B.net forums. However, my suggestion stands.

How about it Bungie(read: Gorrila-Webmaster)? I know there are tons of Java/client side spell checking solutions out there. At least consider an optional spell checking solution for forum posts for B.net's next overhaul.

  • 02.16.2006 1:02 PM PDT
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you know what would be cool, Halo 2 PC players can battle Halo 2 Xbox players.


No
that is unfair
we would beat the hell out of those XB

Funny, cause it's true ^^

  • 02.16.2006 2:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: Admin man
you know what would be cool, Halo 2 PC players can battle Halo 2 Xbox players.


No
that is unfair
we would beat the hell out of those XB

Funny, cause it's true ^^


But they got there autoaim and HUGE hitboxes........

  • 02.16.2006 2:49 PM PDT
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We don't need auto aim and huge hitboxes...

  • 02.16.2006 3:30 PM PDT
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Lol, Iggwilv i love it how you make your thread the official one lol.


That my own arrogant way of trying to get this stickied. :)


Are you quite satisfied with this monster you have created? :-Þ

Has anyone mentioned a vote system yet? Vote to change map, boot a TKer, etc....

  • 02.16.2006 7:35 PM PDT
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LOL, all we have been talking about is 56k or no 56k support, probably one of the biggest issues.... Anyway we seriously need to get this thread back on topic.

On a separate issue, calling it offical must be a way to get people to post. :)

  • 02.16.2006 9:59 PM PDT
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the longsword is a small troop carrier as well a fighter so a longsword fighter would be cool, you attack the base on a raid, unleash the squad of 4, and then get out of there. That would open up so many more tatical ideas.

Where exactly did you hear that the longsword was a troop carrier? the pelican is a troop carrier, the longsword is a long range Jet (compared to the current Jet), that thing flys hunreds of miles to come within range of its target, and to do that it has to move fast, so it would be alittle impracticle on the small maps that are in the game. Also if it were a troop transport, why would it only allow for 4 passengers? and why is it never depicted (in the novels), as deploying troops on te surface of planets?

or we could use the assault Pelican form Hugeass, you know the one with the rockets, and the machine gun monuted on the back?

The banshee in Halo 2 had the fule-rod gun removed to balance it, it also allowed people to board it, and it cant hover. the pelican wouldnt be very well designed if you could board it (unless you had no passengers), it can hover, and the one you are describing (you get to see it on the first delta halo level), actually has missle pods, and a 50 caliber machine gun on the back. now im only assuming here, but that thing would probably take more than 2 rockets to take it down, and with the short amount of space in the current levels, not only does it seem very impracticle, but near impossible to stop. should the game be alterd to include something like this, or the longsword, the game would dramitcaly change in its expereince. i almost forgot to mention that it would also need custom physics and animations, the only places you see in crash (or more at all for that matter), is in cutscenes.

Well, having it as stock would be better, as people will play more with stock than on customs. Well, I think more people will play stock than customs, at least in the beginning.

true, true, but with what i have said, and how things are it seems alittle unrealistic. dont get me wrong i think they are great ideas but alittle to large for the game at hand.

Yeh that is what i meant Blackness, Halo 2 PC will require a descructible environment i can promise on that one, with all the good stuff...

uhh... are you sure you were talking to me and not Omniospartan? if you are i think you might need to clue me in as to what you are refering to.

Yet, someone actually though that making it windows Vista only was a great idead......
Someone is gonna get fired for sure.....


the people that agreed to this would be Jason Jones, and Bill Gates... if you are some how unaware of who those people are, they are the project lead for Halo 2, and the creator of Microsoft respectively. now if you can figure out a realistic way for either of them to be fired for this please tell me, i would love to know.

Hell....i didn't buy an Xbox and that only costed 200$ with halo 2!!!
Who will buy a new hardware compatible PC, and software, to play 1 game?
Not me for sure........plus I never buy a new operative system for at least 1 year of coming to the market.


i bought my first xbox for halo, and i broke that so i bought my second xbox for halo 2, all other games i have were secondary thoughts at the time. and because i am about to build my computer for games and CAD programs, i will build it around halo 2 and vista. so i will either get a good video card now and wait for improvements on vista, or i will get a crappy video card now so i can wait for the hardware compatability list. that and i will need my software to be compatabile with vista too... so that means yeah i will. One of the reasons i didnt by a 360 was because i wanted to wait for all the crap to be sorted out before i spent my money. so i am unsure of what i will do in respect to vista right now.

There aren't that many models. Only 2 or 3. The stuff that falls off is just like scenery.

wait what? did you just try to tell me that there are only 2 or 3 models in halo 2? please clarify this for me before i double the length of this post.

More variable melee damage. I mean, come ON! Being smacked down with a rocket launcher to the face is going to do more damage than a simple pistol being whacked into someones chest.

you dont play much halo 2 do you. ok, grab a rocket launcher, and jump and smack someone in the head, instant death. Try that with a pistol. you might have to do it once or twice more. alot of the time i have to hit people 3 times with my battle rifle to get a kill.

Bring back the flamethrower! (It pz0wns0rs energy sword badly) and it'd be nice to have a new vehicle as well (like the scorpion ^^).

WHAT? ok, if the flamethrower in the first halo was the same in halo 2 the sword would destroy it, take some damage, but destroy it. there is a scorpion man damn. Have you ever played halo 2 before, or atleast for more than 1 hour?

Lan/internet co-op! I mean COME ON! SERIOUSLY! I really felt pissed off by that lack on H1.

Halo 1 had co-op, but i really know what you mean with the lack of xbox live. but you probably meant the lack of co-op over xbox live or LAN right? yeah i missed that too.

Some bots would be nice.

definately, if they have the time i seriously hope that adequate bots can be added, it will really give halo 2 Vista that extra push.

About the best suggestion I can think of for H2 on the PC is to have Bungie implement a spell checker in the forums....

i know what you mean, some times i have trouble understanding what people are trying to say because of the lack of spelling, and simple gramar like commas.

As for that crack against people on xbox live against pc users, i prefer console gaming because i know im on an equal battle field hardware wise, but when it comes down to it the mouse (not nesessarily the keyboard), are an advantage.

It would be nice if team killers were discouraged with an IP ban, but playing games like rockets (and hopefully fuel-rods), it can be easy to accidently tk your allies, i have done that afew times on xbox live, and after acouple of times people have had the option to boot me, i think a better idea would be a kick, or to have the people that were team killed have the option to decide how he should be treated. if it were a persistant problem and not an accident, then they could choose suspension, but if it were an accident they could decide to leave the person be.

That about covers it for this edition of The_Blackness' reply, till next time good bye and adue.

-Fooluaintblack

  • 02.16.2006 10:35 PM PDT