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Subject: Is Halo legends canon?

Title says all.

  • 06.09.2011 8:10 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

All of Legends (albeit Odd One Out) is canon.

  • 06.09.2011 8:16 AM PDT

Oh yeah It's Rayzed.

Dear God....what have you done?

Honestly though, its only canon if you want it to be. You can choose to ignore it if you want or at least certain parts of it (Like space motorcycles). Just think that the basic story for each episode is canon, just don't pay attention to the details.

  • 06.09.2011 8:18 AM PDT

Because halo legends made me hate spartans, because they seemed to brutal to the covenant, and I really do not like when the "good humans" are that brutal. It is okay if a brute or an elite rips a marine in half but I do not like when a unsc odst puts a smg in a brutes eyehole and fires, I think it kind of removes the heroic about them.

And I do not feel for playing trough one of the games I love most with the character I hate most.

By the way, I am not english so it may exists some flaws with my grammar.

  • 06.09.2011 8:27 AM PDT

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If you take into considiration all the things the covenant have done to humanity and compare it with what the humans have done to them, they are not brutal at all.
And your english is fine by the way.

  • 06.09.2011 10:16 AM PDT

Posted by: Spartan 2104
If you take into considiration all the things the covenant have done to humanity and compare it with what the humans have done to them, they are not brutal at all.
And your english is fine by the way.

Vengence isnt noble, however.

  • 06.09.2011 10:27 AM PDT

That is true, but they did not portray that in the games of some reason. So to me, it seemed like the humans were the bad ones when I watched legends, because I have not read any of the books I have only played some of the games.
But could you please be more precise of what the covenant have done to the humans, I kind of want to know.

  • 06.09.2011 10:30 AM PDT

I would say certain elements and plot points are canon, but certain artistic elements aren't.

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  • 06.09.2011 10:31 AM PDT

If you're passionate about the thing you're talking about, I'll always lend an ear.

Humans have always been brutal, it's a part of humanity traits.

Bungie tends to stray away from that tone, it's very dark and Gear's of War-esque. They make the grunts look funny and amusing to be around but in canon they would try to rip your head off if they had the chance, I liked what they did in the Halo Graphic Novel, the 1st story showed a completely different side to Halo, how dark and bloody a flood investation on a ship is and how lonely the cheif[with cortana luckily] really was on Halo.
The manga-ish Johnson escape was great as well, really made the flood into something worth fearing in a drawing.

I picked out the HGN, because it really was one of the first to depict Halo in this light.

  • 06.09.2011 10:35 AM PDT

"Find where the liar hides, so that I may place my boot between his gums!" - Rtas 'Vadum

Posted by: talz321
That is true, but they did not portray that in the games of some reason. So to me, it seemed like the humans were the bad ones when I watched legends, because I have not read any of the books I have only played some of the games.
But could you please be more precise of what the covenant have done to the humans, I kind of want to know.

It is called war. When you are face to face with an enemy trying to kill you all civilised normality tends to go out of the window.

As for what the Covenant have done to Humanity? Glassed dozens of Humanity's colonys and murdered 23 billion people and have an extreme superiority complex. I think Humans have every right to feel angry about these things when face to face with the Covenant.

  • 06.09.2011 10:54 AM PDT

Vengeance only leads to an ongoing cycle of hatred.

Yes. Except for Odd One Out.

  • 06.09.2011 10:54 AM PDT
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I want Halo 3 back how it was.

Alright, here I go:

Legends is only canon by story, the details in the middle, like brutes having green blood or Cal stopping a hammer blow from a brute with her hands, or Cal throwing a pod a hundred and some feet.

So, in Babysitter:

Canon: Cal dies, Chieftain dies, O'brien shoots prophet

Non-canon: Cal is stronger then brute...or anything seen yet, other little details that are plain ridocoulous.

So, In The Package:

Canon:John saves Halsey, two spartans die, Fred and Kelly help, John fights a major with the same first name as the current arbiter

Non-Canon: Everything else, like Brutes green blood, the amount of covenant decamated, overall skill of each SPARTAN.

Get my point? The little details are non canon, th broad story is. If I should continue, I will.

  • 06.09.2011 11:06 AM PDT

"On the seventh day, god did not rest, but rather he created 64 player multiplayer!"

You call anything canon if you want but it won't matter because Bungie will just ignore it and do what they want to do. Hopefully 343 won't be so ignorant of their own Halo universe...

  • 06.09.2011 11:15 AM PDT
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I want Halo 3 back how it was.


Posted by: talz321
That is true, but they did not portray that in the games of some reason. So to me, it seemed like the humans were the bad ones when I watched legends, because I have not read any of the books I have only played some of the games.
But could you please be more precise of what the covenant have done to the humans, I kind of want to know.

Aside from killing almost every human in existance? Aside from allowing brutes to ravage cities before actually attacking? Aside the fact that the population of the human race currently in the Halo Universe is either 3,000,000 or 300,000(Significantly less then now in current time)?

The thing is, without our brutality andd cunning, we would have been decimated. Why? Well, in canon, a single 80 year old brute can get hit by a Wharthog at full speed and take 15 assualt rifles all hitting their target(In the same day), and then his nephew being much, much stronger then him. His nephew being Tartarus.

Or maybe because elites, after the brutes ravaging, go through the cities and utterly destroy the city, slaughter, childeren, and exceute any prisoners(That the brutes haven't ate yet).

Or the fact a grunt started this war by tearing a human apart in a negoation for peace.

In truth, any human surviving is gonna be the strongest of our kind.

The games story is canon, but little details, like Legends, isn't. Canon is much darker.

But it's a story on a video-game series so it doesn't matter.

  • 06.09.2011 11:17 AM PDT

I hope 343 will ad brutality to their next game, I want to see people get eaten.

  • 06.09.2011 11:52 AM PDT
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Posted by: Hydrilus
You call anything canon if you want but it won't matter because Bungie will just ignore it and do what they want to do. Hopefully 343 won't be so ignorant of their own Halo universe...


so what you are saying, is that the books written by third parties who have zero relation, and relevance to the halo development team are inmutable canon fact! god you are a complete and utter -blam!- moron, the four halo games devoloped by bungie are the inmutable canon examples, nothing else beside the halo story bible is truer.

it doesn't matter that you think "established" canon should be truer. the fact of the matter is, the halo games made by bungie are the truest source of canon we see, not the -blam!- books.



-blam!- retard.

  • 06.09.2011 12:30 PM PDT

So if it is the games that count, which difficulty is the canon one?

  • 06.09.2011 12:34 PM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.


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Posted by: Hydrilus
You call anything canon if you want but it won't matter because Bungie will just ignore it and do what they want to do. Hopefully 343 won't be so ignorant of their own Halo universe...


so what you are saying, is that the books written by third parties who have zero relation, and relevance to the halo development team are inmutable canon fact! god you are a complete and utter -blam!- moron, the four halo games devoloped by bungie are the inmutable canon examples, nothing else beside the halo story bible is truer.

it doesn't matter that you think "established" canon should be truer. the fact of the matter is, the halo games made by bungie are the truest source of canon we see, not the -blam!- books.



-blam!- retard.


As long as we're all being hostile to each other, I'd like to point out that you're the retard.

Now who was that guy that wrote Halo 2 and ODST? Ah yes, Joseph Staten... What's this? Contact Harvest appears to have his name on the cover, it says he wrote it. Would you like to tell him that his novel is irrelevant?

Bungie and 343 hired Nylund, Buckell, Dietz, Traviss, Bear and the other writers for a reason. Nylund did not spend years of his life writing novels in the Halo universe that mean bugger all. You ought to reassess your statement.

  • 06.09.2011 12:37 PM PDT

Oh yeah It's Rayzed.

Posted by: talz321
So if it is the games that count, which difficulty is the canon one?

I would say Legendary with all skulls but Blind on would capture the difficulty of fighting a technologically superior race.

  • 06.09.2011 12:41 PM PDT
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We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: Raylette
Posted by: talz321
So if it is the games that count, which difficulty is the canon one?

I would say Legendary with all skulls but Blind on would capture the difficulty of fighting a technologically superior race.


no, bungie has been saying for the last 10 years that heroic is the official difficulty.

  • 06.09.2011 12:45 PM PDT

Oh yeah It's Rayzed.

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Posted by: Raylette
Posted by: talz321
So if it is the games that count, which difficulty is the canon one?

I would say Legendary with all skulls but Blind on would capture the difficulty of fighting a technologically superior race.


no, bungie has been saying for the last 10 years that heroic is the official difficulty.

Ah, my mistake. Heroic seems kinda easy to me though.

  • 06.09.2011 12:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: RaamSkorge
Aside the fact that the population of the human race currently in the Halo Universe is either 3,000,000 or 300,000(Significantly less then now in current time)?

Nope.

  • 06.09.2011 1:54 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: Raylette
Honestly though, its only canon if you want it to be. You can choose to ignore it if you want or at least certain parts of it (Like space motorcycles). Just think that the basic story for each episode is canon, just don't pay attention to the details.


That isn't how it works at all. You do not pick and choose.

  • 06.09.2011 1:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: Raylette
Honestly though, its only canon if you want it to be. You can choose to ignore it if you want or at least certain parts of it (Like space motorcycles). Just think that the basic story for each episode is canon, just don't pay attention to the details.


That isn't how it works at all. You do not pick and choose.


Yeah, mainly because you can't go around and say that (in regards to the Package) a group of Spartans infiltrated a Covenant fleet to rescue Halsey. How would you explain the how? Take out the booster frames specifically designed to by pass Covenant point defenses and what do you have left? Say they took an unwieldy fat Pelican or Longsword and used that to get past Covenant defenses? It just doesn't work to pick, choose, and omit things at will while still accepting the basic storyline.

[Edited on 06.09.2011 2:08 PM PDT]

  • 06.09.2011 2:07 PM PDT
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just because something is canonical irrelevant, does not make it waste, the books were good, they were exactly what they were meant to be, a good entertaining story. you seem to think something has to be canonically correct to be good, than it is you who is a complete and utter -blam!- retard.
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Posted by: Hydrilus
You call anything canon if you want but it won't matter because Bungie will just ignore it and do what they want to do. Hopefully 343 won't be so ignorant of their own Halo universe...


so what you are saying, is that the books written by third parties who have zero relation, and relevance to the halo development team are inmutable canon fact! god you are a complete and utter -blam!- moron, the four halo games devoloped by bungie are the inmutable canon examples, nothing else beside the halo story bible is truer.

it doesn't matter that you think "established" canon should be truer. the fact of the matter is, the halo games made by bungie are the truest source of canon we see, not the -blam!- books.



-blam!- retard.


As long as we're all being hostile to each other, I'd like to point out that you're the retard.

Now who was that guy that wrote Halo 2 and ODST? Ah yes, Joseph Staten... What's this? Contact Harvest appears to have his name on the cover, it says he wrote it. Would you like to tell him that his novel is irrelevant?

Bungie and 343 hired Nylund, Buckell, Dietz, Traviss, Bear and the other writers for a reason. Nylund did not spend years of his life writing novels in the Halo universe that mean bugger all. You ought to reassess your statement.

  • 06.09.2011 2:23 PM PDT

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