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Subject: Its an EXACT remake, and that's what troubles me...please read


Posted by: JohnyRL
1) Crappy ragdoll? (they did say sane physics)

Ragdoll? What ragdoll? Halo 1 doesn't have any ragdolling. It's all pure handcrafted.

And thank God for that; Halo's 2 and 3 have some atrocious postmortem animating.

2) The Library (the level just wasnt fun)
It gives a bad first impression, but it's insanely mesmerizing once you sink into it. I used to be skeptical, but these days I consider it amazing.

3) Same attack style in coop (One hit kill when meleeing a friend in the back on coop when it didnt kill for marines)
I thought a hit to the back DOES drop a marine... Maybe my memory is funny there because I don't hit marines (in the back, that is) very often.

Either way, though, I really don't see what the big deal with this is. Just try not hitting your partner in the back, or something.

4) Lack of Destructible human vehicles
I'll take this complain seriously when I find someone who can make an actual argument for why indestructable vehicles are bad for gameplay.

Posted by: JohnyRL
So, you people like dated gameplay? Namely bodies lying half of the edge of a cliff as if they were lying normally, or bodies suspended bit hair for being near a cliff ledge?

Body hanging is "dated gameplay?" I fail to see how the manner in which bodies hang is particularly relevant to the gameplay at all.

Also, you're wrong. Parts of bodies hanging too far over ledges drop a ways. It's a sketchy model-stretching thing, but it's loaded with a healthy dose of pure classy.

  • 06.10.2011 12:21 AM PDT

I reject your reality and substitute my own.

Indestructible vehicles were my favorite part.

I still won't buy this though.

I think all remakes are pointless, except for very specific conditions.


Like I approve of the Resident Evil 4 HD remake, because it's also coming for Xbox, with the original wasn't, so I xcan see that. But for the same system, that can play the old game, is just pointless.

[Edited on 06.10.2011 12:38 AM PDT]

  • 06.10.2011 12:35 AM PDT

Shut up everyone, the Library was great! :P

Seriously, I loved that horror survival stuff, it was a change of pace, mood and gameplay, definitely welcomed.

Anyway, I don't mind playing co-op over live at all, or playing Halo CE on my 360 without all the lag. AND, I wouldn't mind playing the game at all with all new fancy graphics. Initially I didn't care much, but the game really looks great. Guess I will be playing both version, but I think the new graphics will give life back to Halo CE, maybe even enhance some elements if done right, like the different moods.

[Edited on 06.10.2011 10:18 AM PDT]

  • 06.10.2011 10:17 AM PDT

Halo is one of the best series I've ever played. Thank you for such an amazing game, Bungie!

The game is going to be amazing! I loved Halo: CE, bugs and all. The death animations were hilarious, The Library was incredibly fun, albeit repetitive, and who the hell cares about one hit kills with your co-op partner, and invincible cars were fun to mess around with in co-op. If you don't like this,
Don't.
Buy.
It.

  • 06.10.2011 11:46 AM PDT
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Posted by: JohnyRL
Certain things in ce just werent good.

1) Crappy ragdoll? (they did say sane physics)
2) The Library (the level just wasnt fun)
3) Same attack style in coop (One hit kill when meleeing a friend in the back on coop when it didnt kill for marines)
4) Lack of Destructible human vehicles

The list goes on. I hope they change a few things at least..

1. they were funny XD
2. yeah... I can agree, but what can you say?
3. I loved that in halo 1! if i had low health i can get my partner to melee me in one hit and id heave health and not that annoying heartbeat noise in my surround sound, give me a headache.
4. I liked that, you can do anything,

I want it to be an EXACT remake, i want halo CE to play JUST LIKE Halo CE, NOT reach!!
speaking of reach, I hope they dont screw up the controls, I hope they are the same controls as they were in halo 1 and not halo 3,odst, and reach (RB to reload is stupid to me.)

  • 06.10.2011 4:17 PM PDT

I'm the cult of personality,
I call it like i see it, if i feel the need to be blunt and to the point, then i will, if i feel the need to be very detailed, i will, im here to stay and im here to do things my way, if you respect that or not is your choice, not mine,
and don't worry, while i don't agree with everyone's opinion, i do respect everyone's opinion.

Posted by: EpikWarrior21
2)Library stays in,
that is the only thing you got right,
the campaign is Halo CE with modern day graphics that's it,
the multiplayer uses reach's engine, not the campaign.

the remake is gonna be exactly what it should be, just a graphics upgrade.

my main disappointment is it doesn't have halo CEs multiplayer.
other then that i cant wait

[Edited on 06.10.2011 4:34 PM PDT]

  • 06.10.2011 4:31 PM PDT
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Posted by: Insane AlphaBeta
Posted by: EpikWarrior21
2)Library stays in,
that is the only thing you got right,
the campaign is Halo CE with modern day graphics that's it,
the multiplayer uses reach's engine, not the campaign.

the remake is gonna be exactly what it should be, just a graphics upgrade.

my main disappointment is it doesn't have halo CEs multiplayer.
other then that i cant wait

Tht really relieves me.
I was hoping they wont change the engine for the Campaign.
I dont play MP often, but Halo CE MP will be missed.
any news on the controls?

  • 06.10.2011 4:53 PM PDT


Posted by: Tupolev


4) Lack of Destructible human vehicles
I'll take this complain seriously when I find someone who can make an actual argument for why indestructable vehicles are bad for gameplay.

classy.


unrealistic maybe... idk, i dont have a problem with it.

  • 06.10.2011 5:02 PM PDT

Zomg! How u find this?

I doubt they meant 100% untouched pure gameplay, with same exact annoying bugs and everything. I've pretty confident that they're going to fix up some of that stuff.

  • 06.10.2011 5:44 PM PDT

The only change I really want are the vehicles: I don't want to get killed from being touched my a slowly moving vehicle/ moving turret

  • 06.10.2011 6:05 PM PDT

I like Call of Duty and Gears of War, AND Halo. Why must everyone else like only one or the other?

The remake is going to be exactly what it should be. The gameplay and engine remains untouched. If they changed that, they'd change much of the magic of the original Halo. So we'll still be able to slam the Warthog through doors and such into areas they originally weren't meant to go. We'll still be able to run over our allies by just tapping them with the hog, and so forth. The only changes are a new graphics engine on top of the original game, improved sound effects, added in terminals (or some such similar things), online co-op, and achievements. I was worried that they would've remade it using the Reach engine, thereby ruining the magic of the original.

  • 06.10.2011 6:45 PM PDT

Posted by: KRIS PRINGLE
JohnyRL

Its not the reach engine. Where the hell did you get that from. Its a retextured halo CE, same gameplay, same mechanics, same physics etc

they said it in every interview, its the reach engine


No its not the reach engine. Watch the vid on halo waypoint. Where are these "interviews" from? the flood forum?

[Edited on 06.10.2011 8:29 PM PDT]

  • 06.10.2011 8:24 PM PDT

I like Call of Duty and Gears of War, AND Halo. Why must everyone else like only one or the other?

Edit: Nvm.

[Edited on 06.10.2011 8:29 PM PDT]

  • 06.10.2011 8:29 PM PDT

reach engine for multiplayer. And what is your pic saposed to be 0_o

  • 06.10.2011 10:41 PM PDT

I'm the cult of personality,
I call it like i see it, if i feel the need to be blunt and to the point, then i will, if i feel the need to be very detailed, i will, im here to stay and im here to do things my way, if you respect that or not is your choice, not mine,
and don't worry, while i don't agree with everyone's opinion, i do respect everyone's opinion.


Posted by: AngelForge042

Posted by: Insane AlphaBeta
Posted by: EpikWarrior21
2)Library stays in,
that is the only thing you got right,
the campaign is Halo CE with modern day graphics that's it,
the multiplayer uses reach's engine, not the campaign.

the remake is gonna be exactly what it should be, just a graphics upgrade.

my main disappointment is it doesn't have halo CEs multiplayer.
other then that i cant wait

Tht really relieves me.
I was hoping they wont change the engine for the Campaign.
I dont play MP often, but Halo CE MP will be missed.
any news on the controls?
nope not yet.

  • 06.10.2011 10:54 PM PDT


Posted by: JohnyRL
Certain things in ce just werent good.

4) Lack of Destructible human vehicles


I hated when they added destructible vehicles. There was nothing more satisfying than hitting a game-saving grenade to flip a hog w/ the flag. Hogs laugh at grenades now.

  • 06.10.2011 11:22 PM PDT

Friggin deal with it

My two cents are that; First, I hope that they DON"T have indestructable vehicles, or the one stick scorpion. Also I hope that we can't "one-shot" Hunters. As for the Library, it was one of my favorite levels, second only to AOTCR.

  • 06.11.2011 8:01 AM PDT

Well, at least we'll finally see the Flood using the Reach engine. Graphics, anyway.

[Edited on 06.11.2011 10:02 AM PDT]

  • 06.11.2011 9:59 AM PDT

Otherwise known as Sevi D!!


Posted by: AngelForge042

Posted by: JohnyRL
Certain things in ce just werent good.

1) Crappy ragdoll? (they did say sane physics)
2) The Library (the level just wasnt fun)
3) Same attack style in coop (One hit kill when meleeing a friend in the back on coop when it didnt kill for marines)
4) Lack of Destructible human vehicles

The list goes on. I hope they change a few things at least..

1. they were funny XD
2. yeah... I can agree, but what can you say?
3. I loved that in halo 1! if i had low health i can get my partner to melee me in one hit and id heave health and not that annoying heartbeat noise in my surround sound, give me a headache.
4. I liked that, you can do anything,

I want it to be an EXACT remake, i want halo CE to play JUST LIKE Halo CE, NOT reach!!
speaking of reach, I hope they dont screw up the controls, I hope they are the same controls as they were in halo 1 and not halo 3,odst, and reach (RB to reload is stupid to me.)

Don't take my word for it, but I'm sure they might have to use the Reach control set up. Maybe they would have the classic set up scheme but remember that the controller was different then too.

  • 06.11.2011 12:31 PM PDT

Posted by: JohnyRL
Certain things in ce just werent good.

1) Crappy ragdoll? (they did say sane physics)
2) The Library (the level just wasnt fun)
3) Same attack style in coop (One hit kill when meleeing a friend in the back on coop when it didnt kill for marines)
4) Lack of Destructible human vehicles

The list goes on. I hope they change a few things at least..



Nostalgia is going to play a role in sales (keep that in mind). I actually preferred the old ragdolls to the improved ones, realism isn't always what people want. Some of the things you mentioned changed the mechanics of the game (not just cosmetics), and some people (myself included) didn't like all of the "improvements".

  • 06.11.2011 12:40 PM PDT
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Posted by: F4LL3N Fury

Posted by: AngelForge042

Posted by: JohnyRL
Certain things in ce just werent good.

1) Crappy ragdoll? (they did say sane physics)
2) The Library (the level just wasnt fun)
3) Same attack style in coop (One hit kill when meleeing a friend in the back on coop when it didnt kill for marines)
4) Lack of Destructible human vehicles

The list goes on. I hope they change a few things at least..

1. they were funny XD
2. yeah... I can agree, but what can you say?
3. I loved that in halo 1! if i had low health i can get my partner to melee me in one hit and id heave health and not that annoying heartbeat noise in my surround sound, give me a headache.
4. I liked that, you can do anything,

I want it to be an EXACT remake, i want halo CE to play JUST LIKE Halo CE, NOT reach!!
speaking of reach, I hope they dont screw up the controls, I hope they are the same controls as they were in halo 1 and not halo 3,odst, and reach (RB to reload is stupid to me.)

Don't take my word for it, but I'm sure they might have to use the Reach control set up. Maybe they would have the classic set up scheme but remember that the controller was different then too.


aah, that would suck. but you can play Halo CE on 360, so why not just make the controls to fit that (RB as switch grenade, LB as flashlight, ect, NOT reload and crap)
If they do have those stupid reach controls, they better have an option to go back to original controls lol
it would seem tricky to make reach controls on campaign because Reach had armour abilities and such.

and also, one shot hunters and indestructable vehicles were nice.
the hunters were tricky to get their back in view sometimes. I very much preferred the Scorpion in Halo 1 over the other halos.
I dont know as long as it plays like CE, finny and/or annoying bungs and glitches and all.
ill love it.

[Edited on 06.11.2011 1:29 PM PDT]

  • 06.11.2011 1:28 PM PDT

JORGE


Posted by: NOBLE SlX
The Library was my probably my favorite level >.<

Please leave.


hell yea that was a crazy level so much flood and darkness and thats wut i miss in halo..the flood!! i hope theres a firefight map with flood

  • 06.11.2011 1:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: El1T3 WARR10R23

Posted by: NOBLE SlX
The Library was my probably my favorite level >.<

Please leave.


hell yea that was a crazy level so much flood and darkness and thats wut i miss in halo..the flood!! i hope theres a firefight map with flood

Yes!!
Firefight and Flood!!!
I hope we can still make Flood-pets
Harmless when Armless

  • 06.11.2011 1:45 PM PDT

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