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Honestly, I agree with you pretty much completely.

One thing for some reason I see a lot of people forgetting however, is a little thing I vaguely remember seeing in Halo Legends: Origins II.

I vaguely remember Cortana speaking about secrets which should not be uncovered, and should not be found, and, rather than showing something expected like The Flood, they show a Forerunner helmet being placed onto a pedestal, and a set of Forerunner armour being locked away.

Now, to me, this kind of states that this "New enemy" won't be so new at all, and will in fact be the Forerunners. Why? Because we warred with them, and some of them still despised us, and if any had survived, it is quite possible they might still have their feelings of hatred for us.

Either way, I reckon we'll probably end up seeing some Forerunners in some form, even if it's in video or something.

  • 06.09.2011 5:00 PM PDT


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Posted by: hotshot revan II
Yea,it was really stupid to hear idiots saying that it's Reach.....

Reach...

*burst into laugh*

But now those kind of people jumped into the Onyx bandwagon,can't wait till further info will silence them too.
I say it's Onyx because I read the book. Obviously you haven't read the book, "Ghosts of Onyx", otherwise you'd be agreeing with me. You're following the band wagon of all the ignorant fanboys who never read the books.

I read the book too. (P.S. It's not Onyx, the only way into Onyx was the room with the portal in it, not some big opening on the surface.)

[Edited on 06.09.2011 5:20 PM PDT]

  • 06.09.2011 5:19 PM PDT
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It's difficult for me to even consider the place Chief is headed to a planet. I've been treating it more as a space station (ala Death Star) forerunner technology based on the looks of the trailer; although chances are it is considered some sort of planet. This pic clearly shows the ship is being pulled/crash landing into the structure. It's not landing on it. Therefore, chances are it's not a planet and it is something completely different.

[Edited on 06.09.2011 5:32 PM PDT]

  • 06.09.2011 5:32 PM PDT

I'm not going down without a good fight! :D

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Okay, this is my wild theory of everything I know combined in this thread, credit goes to whoever says any of this, remember, it's just packed into one,

*backs up to Master Chief in the frigate in last scene + last terminal*
Okay, now I think MB sent Master Chief to a specific location, because in the last terminal in Halo 3, MB says "But I would have my masters know that I have changed. And you shall be my example." What if MB was trying to show his masters that he changed by sending Master Chief to the Forerunner planet, and yes, in the trailer, the gates were opening to let the destroyed ship into the planet, so maybe MB sent a message to allow Master Chief in the planet, think about it, why would the planet open if Master Chief was in it, a human, a reclaimer, a "forerunner decendent." Example, if a asteroid or space junk was floating towards the planet, the gates wouldn't open for nothing, now that if maybe a ship was coming, it still wouldn't open, I bet it opened because of MB allowed the gates opening for Master Chief since MB has access to the Forerunner Technology, See where I'm getting to? It kinda ties with MB.

*Going toward enemies and encounters*
Now maybe the new enemy as someone said before, was controlling the flood and is now on/in the Forerunner planet, because the trailer or whatever said "New Enemies" might be them or maybe a new, smart alien species who worship the forerunners like the elites, were there. Also what if we might actually see a Precursor like someone else said, maybe "The Timeless One" that could be true since that maybe ONI had been researching the planet, and came upon the Precursor or whatever it was, and get to see some humans there too because of ONI.

*Shifting to maybe Halo 4 Campaign*
Once Master Chief enters the planet, I say it will look like the planet in Halo Wars, because that planet might be a shield world also, and maybe MC might have to find a way to defeat the new enemy, and get out of the planet or continue defeating the new enemy in other Forerunner planets and Installations.

That's what I think in my theory, sorry if it kinda doesn't make sense, try to figure it out :P

  • 06.09.2011 5:39 PM PDT

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Posted by: odmichael
It's difficult for me to even consider the place Chief is headed to a planet. I've been treating it more as a space station (ala Death Star) forerunner technology based on the looks of the trailer; although chances are it is considered some sort of planet. This pic clearly shows the ship is being pulled/crash landing into the structure. It's not landing on it. Therefore, chances are it's not a planet and it is something completely different.


I know it seems a bit far fetched, but that's basically one of the things that's been going through my head also. Considering the whole thing looks artificial, rather than a teraformed planet, it seems likely to me that it could have some sort of movement capabilities.

hence this

It just seems to tie up enough loose ends to be some form of sensible. But also crazy. Very crazy.

[Edited on 06.09.2011 5:43 PM PDT]

  • 06.09.2011 5:42 PM PDT

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Posted by: xecnalxes117
Kurt destroyed a city within Onyx, not the planet/sentinels themselves. They're inside Onyx or wherever that micro dyson sphere is. People refer to it as Onyx smart ass. Read the book over.

Righteous indignation does not equal real knowledge. What surface the planet had fell apart when the massive group of Sentinels it was primarily composed of woke up and started kicking ass. Remember the scene where they fragged that big ol' group of Covenant ships that tracked Halsey and the remnants of Blue team? Can't very well do that from the inside of a micro-Dyson sphere that's only a couple meters across in real space, eh? Particularly since Halsey and the Spartans have no real idea how it works and no idea how to get out of it. The Sentinels are not inside the sphere. The planet is gone, although to be fair it wasn't ever really a planet to begin with, it was hundreds of millions of hibernating Sentinels.

Before you start telling others to fact check, you should fact-check yourself. Because annoyance doesn't mask ignorance.

Given that my copy of the book is in storage, the Halopedia will have to do for now:
Onyx's surface, as mentioned before, was composed of seemingly infinite amounts of Sentinels, with a massive Forerunner city hidden under the terraformed ground layer. Under the surface, there was a vast network of underground tunnels and installations, including a map room and an immense Sentinel production facility under the northern polar region.

In the core of Onyx, there was a large room, the Core Room Antechamber. It contained a slipspace rift that would be open for a short time after the Halo Array was put into standby mode, allowing evacuation to the Micro Dyson Sphere within, acting as an escape from the Array's destructive firing.

The Dyson Sphere habitat located wholly within a maintained slipspace bubble, which in normal space, is only some meters in diameter, has a diameter of approximately 300 million kilometers. The megastructure has a habitable, terraformed surface and in the center, a G2-type star to provide terrestrial lighting

The shield world that the Slipspace bubble contains is NOT Onyx, and it does NOT exist in real space. It is a world contained within the Slipspace bubble.

Also, it should be noted that:
At the conclusion of the battle, Onyx was effectively destroyed...
Onyx was toast.

For good measure, we can turn to Wikipedia as well:
Hiding at a distance from Onyx, the Dusk watches as Onyx's surface rips apart to reveal that the entire world is constructed of Sentinels, all connected together to provide an impenetrable defense around the Dyson Sphere at the heart of the planet.(All italics added for emphasis)
If need be, I can dig my copy of the book out of storage on Monday and slap you silly with that, too.
In summary, YOU go read the book over, clown.
Well, let me rephrase that. It could be the micro dyson sphere, within Onyx. Stop going on Wiki, cause I bet for sure you went on Wiki to look that up. Don't deny because I don't really care.& Lol, "clown"?

[Edited on 06.09.2011 7:01 PM PDT]

  • 06.09.2011 6:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: xecnalxes117
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Yea,it was really stupid to hear idiots saying that it's Reach.....

Reach...

*burst into laugh*

But now those kind of people jumped into the Onyx bandwagon,can't wait till further info will silence them too.
I say it's Onyx because I read the book. Obviously you haven't read the book, "Ghosts of Onyx", otherwise you'd be agreeing with me. You're following the band wagon of all the ignorant fanboys who never read the books.

Your posts are a disease.
You're a dork, get over yourself.

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Posted by: xecnalxes117
Posted by: S_034

Posted by: xecnalxes117
Kurt destroyed a city within Onyx, not the planet/sentinels themselves. They're inside Onyx or wherever that micro dyson sphere is. People refer to it as Onyx smart ass. Read the book over.

Righteous indignation does not equal real knowledge. What surface the planet had fell apart when the massive group of Sentinels it was primarily composed of woke up and started kicking ass. Remember the scene where they fragged that big ol' group of Covenant ships that tracked Halsey and the remnants of Blue team? Can't very well do that from the inside of a micro-Dyson sphere that's only a couple meters across in real space, eh? Particularly since Halsey and the Spartans have no real idea how it works and no idea how to get out of it. The Sentinels are not inside the sphere. The planet is gone, although to be fair it wasn't ever really a planet to begin with, it was hundreds of millions of hibernating Sentinels.

Before you start telling others to fact check, you should fact-check yourself. Because annoyance doesn't mask ignorance.

Given that my copy of the book is in storage, the Halopedia will have to do for now:
Onyx's surface, as mentioned before, was composed of seemingly infinite amounts of Sentinels, with a massive Forerunner city hidden under the terraformed ground layer. Under the surface, there was a vast network of underground tunnels and installations, including a map room and an immense Sentinel production facility under the northern polar region.

In the core of Onyx, there was a large room, the Core Room Antechamber. It contained a slipspace rift that would be open for a short time after the Halo Array was put into standby mode, allowing evacuation to the Micro Dyson Sphere within, acting as an escape from the Array's destructive firing.

The Dyson Sphere habitat located wholly within a maintained slipspace bubble, which in normal space, is only some meters in diameter, has a diameter of approximately 300 million kilometers. The megastructure has a habitable, terraformed surface and in the center, a G2-type star to provide terrestrial lighting

The shield world that the Slipspace bubble contains is NOT Onyx, and it does NOT exist in real space. It is a world contained within the Slipspace bubble.

Also, it should be noted that:
At the conclusion of the battle, Onyx was effectively destroyed...
Onyx was toast.

For good measure, we can turn to Wikipedia as well:
Hiding at a distance from Onyx, the Dusk watches as Onyx's surface rips apart to reveal that the entire world is constructed of Sentinels, all connected together to provide an impenetrable defense around the Dyson Sphere at the heart of the planet.(All italics added for emphasis)
If need be, I can dig my copy of the book out of storage on Monday and slap you silly with that, too.
In summary, YOU go read the book over, clown.
Well, let me rephrase that. It could be the micro dyson sphere, within Onyx. Stop going on Wiki, cause I bet for sure you went on Wiki to look that up. Don't deny because I don't really care.& Lol, "clown"?


The planet is way to big to be only a few meters wide.

  • 06.09.2011 7:21 PM PDT
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Posted by: odmichael
It's difficult for me to even consider the place Chief is headed to a planet. I've been treating it more as a space station (ala Death Star) forerunner technology based on the looks of the trailer; although chances are it is considered some sort of planet. This pic clearly shows the ship is being pulled/crash landing into the structure. It's not landing on it. Therefore, chances are it's not a planet and it is something completely different.


Not that it really COULD land per se, given that it's only a small chunk of Forward Unto Dawn, but I get what you're saying, and I agree. There looks to be some sort of force from this structure that's going to pull or direct said chunk inside said structure. If it is a planet, it's either gone full-on Coruscant or it's entirely artificial, which are both possible considering the construction capabilities of the Forerunners. My leaning is entirely artificial planet.

Posted by: xecnalxes117
Well, let me rephrase that. It could be the micro dyson sphere, within Onyx. Stop going on Wiki, cause I bet for sure you went on Wiki to look that up. Don't deny because I don't really care.& Lol, "clown"?


Again, indignation is no substitute for actually knowing what you're talking about. It isn't "within" Onyx because, again, ONYX IS NO MORE. It was make out of Sentinels. Those Sentinels got all pissy and are now buzzing around the micro-Dyson sphere like a bunch of mad hornets. That description fits neither the Legendary ending nor the Halo 4 trailer, because both are certainly well-defined structures and not swirling masses of metal bug-imitators.

Also, if you don't care whether I looked it up or not, why would you bother pointing it out? If it didn't matter to you, then you wouldn't have brought it up. I find it interesting that you suggest fact-checking myself prior to posting is somehow the WRONG thing to do even though it brings up the level of discourse in this forum, rather than lowering it as you do. Also, you would lose that bet. While I did FACT-CHECK, everything prior to the quotations was from my head, as you can see from my post here, which was from much earlier.

In short, you have no idea what you're talking about, and every single post you write makes you look even more like an ass.

[Edited on 06.09.2011 8:14 PM PDT]

  • 06.09.2011 7:22 PM PDT

No doubt the planet is Forerunner...

Now a question for OP, can you tell me exactly where it says the Forerunners just left the Orion arm of the milky way?

Also I know some had to survive, Didact for sure survived since he was present at the end of it all and then there's that forerunner from the terminal.

Thanks

  • 06.09.2011 7:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: ajw34307
I honestly don't know why people are still debating otherwise.

I've been saying it for almost 4 years, all one has to do is look at it and you can immediately see the shield and sword glyph shown on Shield Worlds and the Halos.

Frankie and Bonnie have stated that CE Anniversary will feature Terminals tying into the story of Halo 4. From all the information gathered from Halo 3's Terminals and other sources we know the Forerunners left the Orion Arm of the galaxy. MB wants to atone and sends John to his masters as his example, it could not be made more clear.

And then there's this. The monoliths are very similar to the ones in the Portal Artefact on Earth, everything points to this planet being Forerunner.

I just want to draw a final consensus here where we can all agree.


im hoping that it ties into the book ghosts of onyx personally

  • 06.09.2011 7:31 PM PDT

1. Not Covenant as the technology style does not suit.

2. Not Human, obviously.

3. Does not appear to be Precursor as they used living biomass with technology 'growing on top of the living components'.

4. That leaves us with two choices, Forerunner or new species/technology.

If you pay attention the 'mouth/portal' is opening and getting brighter. This does not appear to be hostile in my opinion.

Also the books mention sentinals can combine to form massive structures, planet even I suppose. Perhaps we are seeing similar Forerunner technology here?

I hope it's another entrance to the Dyson sphere and that is where the trilogy is heading. Meet up with blue team and Halsey then encounter the Forerunners and/or Precursors. Now that would be a trilogy.

After Cryptum in the new books I beleive something along these lines is where the trilogy is heading.

  • 06.09.2011 9:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: xecnalxes117
Posted by: hotshot revan II
Yea,it was really stupid to hear idiots saying that it's Reach.....

Reach...

*burst into laugh*

But now those kind of people jumped into the Onyx bandwagon,can't wait till further info will silence them too.
I say it's Onyx because I read the book. Obviously you haven't read the book, "Ghosts of Onyx", otherwise you'd be agreeing with me. You're following the band wagon of all the ignorant fanboys who never read the books.


I did read the book -_-

The rest in this thread explained it well

  • 06.09.2011 10:44 PM PDT

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Posted by: odmichael
It's difficult for me to even consider the place Chief is headed to a planet. I've been treating it more as a space station (ala Death Star) forerunner technology based on the looks of the trailer; although chances are it is considered some sort of planet. This pic clearly shows the ship is being pulled/crash landing into the structure. It's not landing on it. Therefore, chances are it's not a planet and it is something completely different.


A space station could well be quite likely, the whole thing is evidently an artificial construct - but we do also know that Tier 1 races have the power to construct planets, so perhaps the Legendary Planet is both a space station and a planet.

Or maybe it is indeed some kind of Shield installation, it would make sense for the Forerunners to reside inside the planet, they're still within the Orion Arm and it would be bad news for them if the Flood ever rediscovered them. So maybe it is akin to the Shield World from Halo Wars where there wasn't a Core Room Antechamber?

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Posted by: Oddley765
1. Not Covenant as the technology style does not suit.

2. Not Human, obviously.

3. Does not appear to be Precursor as they used living biomass with technology 'growing on top of the living components'.

4. That leaves us with two choices, Forerunner or new species/technology.

If you pay attention the 'mouth/portal' is opening and getting brighter. This does not appear to be hostile in my opinion.

Also the books mention sentinals can combine to form massive structures, planet even I suppose. Perhaps we are seeing similar Forerunner technology here?

I hope it's another entrance to the Dyson sphere and that is where the trilogy is heading. Meet up with blue team and Halsey then encounter the Forerunners and/or Precursors. Now that would be a trilogy.

After Cryptum in the new books I beleive something along these lines is where the trilogy is heading.


You got it bud, Access to Shield Worlds was only possible upon the imminent activation of the Halo Array...now.. when did the activation of the halo array happen? THE END OF HALO 3.. Coincidence? I think not. Some people even say Onyx WAS shield world, and if that were true.. then yes.. MC just arrived at the shield world where halsey and blue team are stuck. Also.. "The Timeless One" was referenced in Marathon..Fyi. They say he is stuck in a slip space.. now people.. what is stuck in slip space? A DYSON SPHERE omg.. did we just have a revalation.. O.o

  • 06.10.2011 5:31 AM PDT

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Posted by: xecnalxes117
You're a dork, get over yourself.

^ Asserts that he knows this on an anonymous internet board. lol

Posted by: xecnalxes117
Well, let me rephrase that. It could be the micro dyson sphere, within Onyx.

Go out and buy yourself a better dictionary and then look up the word "micro". This is not anything that can be referred to as micro. The actual dyson sphere was contained inside a slipspace rift only accessible through a portal in the antechamber. The portal is only a few metres across and is the only thing left of onyx. As the dyson sphere appears to be inside this small structure to an outsider it is referred to as a "micro" dyson sphere.

Your posts are worthless arrogant drivel and contribute nothing to anything. Don't come back with this stupid argument "I have read the books, you have not" because that is not sufficient to justify bugger all. Actual quotes or page numbers or don't bother posting at all.

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Someone from bungie leaked some halo 4 info

"Halo 4 returns players to the story of the Master Chief and Cortana in the events that follow the conclusion of Halo 3. Players will experience an all new story and introduce a new roster of enemies and weapons to the Halo experience. Set against the top secret Forerunner planetoid known to ONI as Sigma 7, players will encounter a dark new foe and unravel more of the mysteries behind the forerunners and the Office of Naval Intelligence.

At the heart of Halo 4 is a stronger focus than ever before behind story telling and player choice. Players will be offered an unprecedented level of customization and a narrative experience never before seen in a first person shooter. On a technical level Halo 4 pushes the boundaries of the action genre by incorporating larger battlefields than ever before and players will experience conflicts that seamlessly span land, sea and space.

Halo 4 will expand the series trademark arsenal of weapons and vehicles beyond any other title so far. Players can expect fan favorites to return along with new additions. Halo 4 will also feature the revolutionary new Arsenal Improvisation Mechanics that allow for menu-free, creative customization of weapons and vehicles in the heat of combat. Players will take their fight to a new level by dynamically tailoring their weapons and vehicles to suit any situations or enemies."

Its a forerunner planet that we know of as Sigma 7, the Flood is back and so are some humans.

  • 06.10.2011 5:45 AM PDT

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Posted by: Monitor117
Someone from bungie leaked some halo 4 info

"Halo 4 returns players to the story of the Master Chief and Cortana in the events that follow the conclusion of Halo 3. Players will experience an all new story and introduce a new roster of enemies and weapons to the Halo experience. Set against the top secret Forerunner planetoid known to ONI as Sigma 7, players will encounter a dark new foe and unravel more of the mysteries behind the forerunners and the Office of Naval Intelligence.

At the heart of Halo 4 is a stronger focus than ever before behind story telling and player choice. Players will be offered an unprecedented level of customization and a narrative experience never before seen in a first person shooter. On a technical level Halo 4 pushes the boundaries of the action genre by incorporating larger battlefields than ever before and players will experience conflicts that seamlessly span land, sea and space.

Halo 4 will expand the series trademark arsenal of weapons and vehicles beyond any other title so far. Players can expect fan favorites to return along with new additions. Halo 4 will also feature the revolutionary new Arsenal Improvisation Mechanics that allow for menu-free, creative customization of weapons and vehicles in the heat of combat. Players will take their fight to a new level by dynamically tailoring their weapons and vehicles to suit any situations or enemies."

Its a forerunner planet that we know of as Sigma 7, the Flood is back and so are some humans.


Why would anyone at Bungie know the story to Halo 4? Besides that "leaked" info is conjecture right now, it is to be taken with a grain of salt.

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You're right about the info being a conjecture.. but that is pretty accurate. I'm still pretty sure its a shield world.

  • 06.10.2011 5:51 AM PDT

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Posted by: Monitor117
You're right about the info being a conjecture.. but that is pretty accurate. I'm still pretty sure its a shield world.


How can it be accurate when there's no proof? Also, your other post mentioned the activation of 04B opening the Antechamber portals:
1) 04B was out of range of all other Forerunner installations.
2) John has been adrift for years, the Antechamber portal on Onyx wasn't open for very long.

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smart, interesting, seems out of place.


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I actually know the name of it. And of course its Forerunner, it is not Reach, it is not Onyx, and it is not any other planet.

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Posted by: Ktan Dantaktee
I actually know the name of it. And of course its Forerunner, it is not Reach, it is not Onyx, and it is not any other planet.


Sigma 7

  • 06.10.2011 6:47 AM PDT

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I'm not ruling out the possibility that the "planet" we see in the trailer and the ending of Halo 3 is the Onyx dyson sphere.

My first reason is that if the dyson sphere that was Onyx is hidden within slip space then it is entirely possible that the MC is now in the same type of "slip space dimension" and is now finding the DS.

What I mean by that is this: If the dyson sphere is suspended in slip space then lets think of it as being in another dimension. We'll call it the "slip space dimension". Not saying that it's literally another dimension (although it kinda is) but for conversation purposes that's what we'll call it for now.

Ok, so the dyson sphere is stuck in this slip space dimension and now MC gets all messed up while going into slip space at the end of H3....so who's to say that he isn't still stuck in slip space where the dyson sphere is? He very well could be and is now finding the dyson sphere in this slip space dimension. It's pretty far out there as far as theories go but it's not entirely out of question.

Also, the dyson sphere is a forerunner construct so can't we assume it would look similar to that of the forerunner "planet" we are seeing in the trailer?

Personally, I hope it's the dyson sphere.

  • 06.10.2011 7:04 AM PDT