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Dyson sphere described in the books is only a few meters in diameter.. that trailer shows something A LOT bigger than a few meters in diameter, but other than that, ide agree with you and say the dyson sphere is INSIDE of that SHIELD planet.

  • 06.10.2011 7:09 AM PDT
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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact

Frankie confirmed that the leak is fake.

http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=107820 2

  • 06.10.2011 7:44 AM PDT
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Posted by: hotshot revan II
Frankie confirmed that the leak is fake.

http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=107820 2


How did he confirm it xD

  • 06.10.2011 7:50 AM PDT

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Posted by: Monitor117

Posted by: hotshot revan II
Frankie confirmed that the leak is fake.

http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=107820 2


How did he confirm it xD


He replies saying "bullshirt".

  • 06.10.2011 7:53 AM PDT

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Posted by: xecnalxes117
Posted by: hotshot revan II
Yea,it was really stupid to hear idiots saying that it's Reach.....

Reach...

*burst into laugh*

But now those kind of people jumped into the Onyx bandwagon,can't wait till further info will silence them too.
I say it's Onyx because I read the book. Obviously you haven't read the book, "Ghosts of Onyx", otherwise you'd be agreeing with me. You're following the band wagon of all the ignorant fanboys who never read the books.


-.-'

  • 06.10.2011 8:00 AM PDT
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Posted by: hotshot revan II
Yea,it was really stupid to hear idiots saying that it's Reach.....

Reach...

*burst into laugh*

But now those kind of people jumped into the Onyx bandwagon,can't wait till further info will silence them too.
I say it's Onyx because I read the book. Obviously you haven't read the book, "Ghosts of Onyx", otherwise you'd be agreeing with me. You're following the band wagon of all the ignorant fanboys who never read the books.


-.-'

^This guy xD

  • 06.10.2011 8:12 AM PDT
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The "Official" information I am hearing, and nothing is for certain, is that the Legendary planet is indeed a forerunner planet. The planet is labeled, "Sigma 7" and has been visited by humans before, specifically ONI. The "Official" information is that John will rally with the stranded, cut off forces inside of the planetiod and that's how the new trilogy starts. Or so I'm told.

  • 06.10.2011 8:24 AM PDT

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Posted by: RestrepoSpartan
The "Official" information I am hearing, and nothing is for certain, is that the Legendary planet is indeed a forerunner planet. The planet is labeled, "Sigma 7" and has been visited by humans before, specifically ONI. The "Official" information is that John will rally with the stranded, cut off forces inside of the planetiod and that's how the new trilogy starts. Or so I'm told.


Frankie has just denied this claim, the "leaked" info isn't real.

  • 06.10.2011 8:33 AM PDT

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I'm sure we'll see MB and probably a Gravemind, it might even feature The Prisoner... but the location itself will be new.

  • 06.10.2011 8:35 AM PDT

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Posted by: annoyinginge
I'm sure we'll see MB and probably a Gravemind, it might even feature The Prisoner... but the location itself will be new.


I think MB was destroyed when Installation 04B tore itself apart and critically damaged the Ark. Him sending John to his makers to prove his atonement seemed like a last act of nobility.

  • 06.10.2011 8:38 AM PDT

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Posted by: Sakanade
No doubt the planet is Forerunner...

Now a question for OP, can you tell me exactly where it says the Forerunners just left the Orion arm of the milky way?

Also I know some had to survive, Didact for sure survived since he was present at the end of it all and then there's that forerunner from the terminal.

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I can't remember which source, part of me thinks it's from the Encyclopedia 343 released a while back.

It depends where the Didact was. It is suggested he fired Installation 04 (which is why Spark mistakes John for the Didact), and the Iris video cuts off the transmission after the Didact fires the Rings.

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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact


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Posted by: Sakanade
No doubt the planet is Forerunner...

Now a question for OP, can you tell me exactly where it says the Forerunners just left the Orion arm of the milky way?

Also I know some had to survive, Didact for sure survived since he was present at the end of it all and then there's that forerunner from the terminal.

Thanks


I can't remember which source, part of me thinks it's from the Encyclopedia 343 released a while back.

It depends where the Didact was. It is suggested he fired Installation 04 (which is why Spark mistakes John for the Didact), and the Iris video cuts off the transmission after the Didact fires the Rings.


Yes it's the encylopedia.

But the beginning of Cryptum with Born/Didact narrating the story is the largest evidence of their survival.Unless Born/Didact are the last :(

  • 06.10.2011 8:47 AM PDT
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Gettin' all Herodotean up in here!

See, there are a lot of things that keep me fighting the possibility of this being the same Shield installation as the one the Onyx Slipspace portal led to. Number one, the Chief's chunk of Forward Unto Dawn seems to be in real space, not Slipspace. Fair enough, we don't know what Slipspace actually looks like on the inside, but given this (at about 0:33), this (at about 3:16), and this (at about 1:34), I don't think it looks like normal space internally. For one thing, it appears to be entirely devoid of stars. Which, as this shows (start at 5:38 and 7:28, see about 1:06 for more Slipspace stuff), isn't true of wherever it is Chief and Cortana are floating.

Second, whatever action we're seeing with that weird blue light, it doesn't match up with any entry to a shield installation we've ever dealt with. The entryway to the Onyx Dyson sphere is tiny, being that said Dyson sphere is only a few meters across, and this (start at 1:04) is the only other entry to a Shield-type installation we have on record. Neither matches up with the Halo 4 trailer. The portal/door/tractor beam/space mouth/God eye from the trailer looks much more like the installation that opens up the Ark portal, particularly if you view it from this angle. But there doesn't appear to be any kind of beam involved, so the creation of a Ark-type portal can be ruled out.

We can also extrapolate that whatever it is, it's not really all that happy to see him, being that his piece of the Dawn has fire belching out of it IN SPACE. There are only a limited number of things that can cause that, and given that said piece of the Dawn was not randomly spraying fire at the end of Halo 3, something must have attacked it. And being that this megastructure is the only thing we can see that could have done that (apart from Chief brazenly blowing a door open with a pistol that shoots bombs, what the fu-), it's safe to assume that wherever he's headed, it's not gonna be good times.

My conclusion? Whatever this thing is, it's not anything we have ever dealt with or seen before. It isn't Onyx. It's not the Shield world from Halo Wars. We're crossing the threshold into new territory here, folks.

  • 06.10.2011 8:51 AM PDT

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034 has pretty much hit the nail on the head there.

  • 06.10.2011 8:53 AM PDT

Definitely forerunner, and possibly a shield world. It would make sense as he seems to be entering it, rather than landing. [edit] although after reading through this thread it seems much less likely now.

WHo are this 'new enemy' though? It can't be forerunners can it?

[Edited on 06.10.2011 9:04 AM PDT]

  • 06.10.2011 9:01 AM PDT

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Posted by: walshypru
Definitely forerunner, and possibly a shield world. It would make sense as he seems to be entering it, rather than landing. [edit] although after reading through this thread it seems much less likely now.

WHo are this 'new enemy' though? It can't be forerunners can it?


The Forerunners could be the enemy. It's a Forerunner planet, we've not seen them in the games before and we know they weren't the nicest bunch around.

100,000 years of living in seclusion after being almost completely wiped out and committing galactic genocide, then giving away their Mantle isn't going to make them very happy.

  • 06.10.2011 9:07 AM PDT

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[Announcement Trailer] Halo: Forerunner

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I lol'd at the absurd miscommunication that occurs whenever dibbs post something. Perhaps his brain is so highly evolved that he can no longer clearly communicate with lesser life forms, even among his own species.


Posted by: S_034
The portal/door/tractor beam/space mouth/God eye from the trailer looks much more like the installation that opens up the Ark portal, particularly if you view it from this angle. But there doesn't appear to be any kind of beam involved, so the creation of a Ark-type portal can be ruled out.
I'm having very strong inclinations towards this for some reason. Maybe the "planet" is just another rely station; a way-point or portal to another place. If MB only had limited access to the portal creation infrastructure, he could have sent John to another portal, which, being planet sized, would most likely be strong enough to send him to wherever he needed to go. If that's the case, the battle has probably shifted to another galaxy (and maybe introduced some new players to the series to rival the Precursor/Forerunner?)

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You sir are magnificent, but what makes you conclude that it's not a shield world?

and if anything it's probably precursors or probably a species of alien described throughout the marathon trilogy b/c last i checked, the forerunners picked humans as their successors.. they also thought of humans as "special" so why would they be our enemy? they also believed in keeping peace. But then again.. the timeless one says that they RUTHLESSLY killed them..pfft.. who knows xD

or.. the flood, at the end of halo 3 gravemind says this will not stop the flood.. but SLOW them.

[Edited on 06.10.2011 9:16 AM PDT]

  • 06.10.2011 9:13 AM PDT


Posted by: Oddley765
1. Not Covenant as the technology style does not suit.

2. Not Human, obviously.

3. Does not appear to be Precursor as they used living biomass with technology 'growing on top of the living components'.

4. That leaves us with two choices, Forerunner or new species/technology.

If you pay attention the 'mouth/portal' is opening and getting brighter. This does not appear to be hostile in my opinion.

Also the books mention sentinals can combine to form massive structures, planet even I suppose. Perhaps we are seeing similar Forerunner technology here?

I hope it's another entrance to the Dyson sphere and that is where the trilogy is heading. Meet up with blue team and Halsey then encounter the Forerunners and/or Precursors. Now that would be a trilogy.

After Cryptum in the new books I beleive something along these lines is where the trilogy is heading.


The Precursors' technology looked like crystal, not like a living biomass.

  • 06.10.2011 9:23 AM PDT

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Posted by: Monitor117
You sir are magnificent, but what makes you conclude that it's not a shield world?


It may well be a Shield World, one similar to the one seen in Halo Wars where the inside isn't accessed through the Antechamber portal.

and if anything it's probably precursors or probably a species of alien described throughout the marathon trilogy b/c last i checked, the forerunners picked humans as their successors.. they also thought of humans as "special" so why would they be our enemy? they also believed in keeping peace. But then again.. the timeless one says that they RUTHLESSLY killed them..pfft.. who knows xD

or.. the flood, at the end of halo 3 gravemind says this will not stop the flood.. but SLOW them.


Marathon has nothing to do with Halo, they're 2 different universes.

The way I see it, humanity was originally supposed to receive the Mantle from the Precursors but the Forerunners took it by force. Truthfully we do not even know exactly what the Mantle is, Forerunners like the Librarian are not very convinced by its authenticity.

There are many reasons why the Forerunners might still hate humanity. They may see how humanity is driven by war and aggression, tying in to what Cortana was saying in Origins. They may not see us as worthy to possess their Mantle so they could try to take it back.

  • 06.10.2011 9:24 AM PDT

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Posted by: S_034
See, there are a lot of things that keep me fighting the possibility of this being the same Shield installation as the one the Onyx Slipspace portal led to. Number one, the Chief's chunk of Forward Unto Dawn seems to be in real space, not Slipspace. Fair enough, we don't know what Slipspace actually looks like on the inside, but given this (at about 0:33), this (at about 3:16), and this (at about 1:34), I don't think it looks like normal space internally. For one thing, it appears to be entirely devoid of stars. Which, as this shows (start at 5:38 and 7:28, see about 1:06 for more Slipspace stuff), isn't true of wherever it is Chief and Cortana are floating.

The curvature of this is too extreme for it to be the outside of the Onyx dyson sphere in slipspace anyway. For a sphere of diameter 2 AU, being that close to the surface the horizon would appear flat.

  • 06.10.2011 9:26 AM PDT


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Posted by: Monitor117
You sir are magnificent, but what makes you conclude that it's not a shield world?


It may well be a Shield World, one similar to the one seen in Halo Wars where the inside isn't accessed through the Antechamber portal.

and if anything it's probably precursors or probably a species of alien described throughout the marathon trilogy b/c last i checked, the forerunners picked humans as their successors.. they also thought of humans as "special" so why would they be our enemy? they also believed in keeping peace. But then again.. the timeless one says that they RUTHLESSLY killed them..pfft.. who knows xD

or.. the flood, at the end of halo 3 gravemind says this will not stop the flood.. but SLOW them.


Marathon has nothing to do with Halo, they're 2 different universes.

The way I see it, humanity was originally supposed to receive the Mantle from the Precursors but the Forerunners took it by force. Truthfully we do not even know exactly what the Mantle is, Forerunners like the Librarian are not very convinced by its authenticity.

There are many reasons why the Forerunners might still hate humanity. They may see how humanity is driven by war and aggression, tying in to what Cortana was saying in Origins. They may not see us as worthy to possess their Mantle so they could try to take it back.


The Forerunners learned there lesson; they' were being lead by the Didact, who, thanks to Bornstellar respects humanity, and the Librarian, who nurtered humanity. I'd find it odd that they'd suddenly want to kill us all over again, especially since Medicant Bias himself believes them seeing the Chief would help redeem him in their eyes.

Besides, between the Flood, Precursors and Forerunners, only one of them could threaten the entire universe, and thats a Precursor, or a Precursor controlling the Flood.

  • 06.10.2011 9:29 AM PDT

What about the forerunner from the last terminal?

Isnt he also proof that they survived?

[Edited on 06.10.2011 9:33 AM PDT]

  • 06.10.2011 9:32 AM PDT

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Posted by: Monitor117
You sir are magnificent, but what makes you conclude that it's not a shield world?


It may well be a Shield World, one similar to the one seen in Halo Wars where the inside isn't accessed through the Antechamber portal.

and if anything it's probably precursors or probably a species of alien described throughout the marathon trilogy b/c last i checked, the forerunners picked humans as their successors.. they also thought of humans as "special" so why would they be our enemy? they also believed in keeping peace. But then again.. the timeless one says that they RUTHLESSLY killed them..pfft.. who knows xD

or.. the flood, at the end of halo 3 gravemind says this will not stop the flood.. but SLOW them.


Marathon has nothing to do with Halo, they're 2 different universes.

The way I see it, humanity was originally supposed to receive the Mantle from the Precursors but the Forerunners took it by force. Truthfully we do not even know exactly what the Mantle is, Forerunners like the Librarian are not very convinced by its authenticity.

There are many reasons why the Forerunners might still hate humanity. They may see how humanity is driven by war and aggression, tying in to what Cortana was saying in Origins. They may not see us as worthy to possess their Mantle so they could try to take it back.


The Forerunners learned there lesson; they' were being lead by the Didact, who, thanks to Bornstellar respects humanity, and the Librarian, who nurtered humanity. I'd find it odd that they'd suddenly want to kill us all over again, especially since Medicant Bias himself believes them seeing the Chief would help redeem him in their eyes.

Besides, between the Flood, Precursors and Forerunners, only one of them could threaten the entire universe, and thats a Precursor, or a Precursor controlling the Flood.


The Librarian and the Didact are dead though, they were also a minority group that saw the potential in humanity.

Look how easy it was for Faber to control just about everything, there's bound to be some kind of Forerunner Hitler still around.

  • 06.10.2011 9:33 AM PDT