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Posted by: dahuterschuter
Well, no, that's got to be one of the weakest arguments I've ever seen and Jedi/Elite sword combat has been discussed to death before. It always ends up that the Jedi wins.A sangheili is several hundred times stronger then any jedi i've seen. They have a reaction time so fast that they literally see the world in slow motion, making them on equil level to a jedi's force-reflexes. Physically they are at an advantage. The jedi's blade manuverability is matched by the sangheili's physical superiority, when they swordfight they act more acrobatic, it's much more then simply swinging something. The sangheili energy sword is designed that if you are to use it to its full extent, you must literally use it as a part of your body, not as a tool. The only possible advantage the jedi has is the force, and most jedi that fought didn't even use the force very much. Only the main characters did that. I'm not duscussing main characters, because obviously any regular sangheili against darth vadar is going to lose.
This has also been discussed to death before. Star Wars blaster technology is actually advanced past plasma. Plasma weapons are in the SW universe are old technology.Yet the average stormtrooper blaster leaves its target structurally intact. Albiet with 3rd-4th digree burns, but intact. Halo canon depicts covenant technology as liquifying everything in its path.
None of which would be a problem. Cloaking is useless since Jedi could really fight with heir eyes closed. Motion tracker would be useful if it wasn't a one-on-one face to face sword duel. Shields would be useless against a lightsaber.Cloaking would be efficient because since the sangheili arent force-sensetive, the jedi wouldn't get any warning from the force about them. Motion tracker can be effective for tactical reasons. And only the lower-ranking shields would be useless against a lightsaber. Higher-tier shields, such as a zealot, do perfectly fine at shrugging off an energy sword, which is made of the same stuff as a lightsaber.
Okay. I'm not sure why you just tried to make an argumwnt against the Elites winning when you just said you're pro-Elite, but it's good you recognize Elites can't use the Force I guess...You misunderstand. The force can only warn the jedi of a threat if the force can affect the thing that is causing the threat. Alternatively, the jedi wouldn't be able to predict the covenant's movements in a fight, which would dull their jedi-reflexes.
The only true statement you've made.Glad you see my reasoning behind WH40k, but you seem to have misunderstood my other statements.
Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
I'm done. I've listed everything we know the Forerunners can do multiple times. Gods and Ascended -and maybe Necrons- take them out of the picture, and everything else in WH40k dies. Not without putting up one helluva fight though.
The forerunners were pushed to the brink of extinction by the flood. The Tyranids are the thing the flood want to be when they grow up. The halo rings dont even kill the flood directly, they kill the flood's food. IE sentient life. The Tyranids individually aren't sentient, just like the flood. Meaning the rings wouldn't affect them either. And the tyranids numbers make the flood look like an appitizer. The Necrons and Chaos Daemons would also be un-effected.
TL;DR
The forerunners, jedi, and reapers might as well bend over and drop their pants when they see WH40k slip into the debate.