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Subject: Am I the only one tired of people saying ME or SW would destroy Halo?

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Posted by: colbyrules8
To Zeroexe,

Your wall is non-sense. It just seems like you are a star trek nerd. The covenant would utterly destroy the BORG, one plasma beam would utterly rip through their cube. The Flood would utterly destroy your litter zergs, the flood don't fight with power by themselves, they infect what they can and after the said host gets infected they become even stronger, so the zerg would be all infected within no time.




Wow !
The amount of Hippocrates here on this thread is overwhelming.
Maybe you should actually research on the Zerg more, instead of making baseless assumptions.

  • 06.10.2011 2:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: T14P Colorith
I love Halo and the universe, read all the books and have been playing since CE. But I will say this, nothing will/can compare to Star Wars. And if any Trekies have anything to say... speak now!
The general rule of thumb is
Star Wars=Star Trek=Warhammer 40000>Halo=Stargate>Battlestar Galactica

That is how it will play out most of the time.

  • 06.10.2011 3:49 PM PDT

I'm agent Nahman Jayden, eff-bee-eye.

Starwars would beat both ME and Halo because it's technology is overpowered as hell. ME would probably beat Halo (Reapers would destroy everyone in a spacefight and a groundfight)

  • 06.10.2011 4:04 PM PDT

If you can read this, that means I'm not a Shaolin monk...

yet.

How Halo wins. Mass assault on one Jedi. Infect Jedi. The enitirety of The FLood now knows how to use the Force!

  • 06.10.2011 4:16 PM PDT

Don't forget that precursers are basically immortal and can only be killed by weapons like halo that kill the soul.

  • 06.10.2011 4:20 PM PDT

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Oh look, a person riding the precursors.

"Oh, we know next to nothing about them, THEREFORE THEY WIN!"

You see, the reason Star Wars destroys Halo, is their NORMAL forces can win the war. Halo has to bring in precursors and forerunners to win.


Besides, Star Wars has the Ewoks and Gungans, they cannot be defeated.

  • 06.11.2011 12:34 AM PDT


Posted by: TheGreenAlloy
How Halo wins. Mass assault on one Jedi. Infect Jedi. The enitirety of The FLood now knows how to use the Force!


Wrong though. The gravemind may know of it, but all the flood wouldn't be able to use it...

Now the zerg however, can spread a mutation through their entire forces enabling every single current zerg to use it.

  • 06.11.2011 12:43 AM PDT

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Posted by: Trick
Don't forget that precursers are basically immortal and can only be killed by weapons like halo that kill the soul.

The Forerunners killed them just fine without Halos.

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Posted by: raganok99
Again, calling me a noob really does discredit you much further. Also using this word like this: "LOL", it ruins your argument as well. If you want to have appropriate debate, I strongly suggest you to stop using LOL words and be serious. Use any links, etc to prove your statements.

Before the Covenant-Human war occured, UNSC Navy had over 2,000 ships while Covenant navy had estimated to be about 3,000 to 5,000 ships strong.

And, I doubt that Star Fleet or Borg can stand against UNSC or Covenant, if it fights mentioning Forerunners/Flood, well Borg or Star Fleet will be vaporized... In my opinion, although.

Let me ask you a question, does this Star Fleet, their armor is ablative armor, right? Can it withstand plasma weaponry? Can it withstand MAC rounds? How much firepower they possess? kilotons, gigatons, teratons and peratons of TNT?

Let me explain about statistics about plasma and MACs:

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A standard ship-grade MAC (Frigate) fires 600 ton ferric hardened tungsten or depleted uranium slugs at 30,000 meters per second, generating about 64 Kilotons of TNT. However, it is possible to have different variants of standard ship-grade MACs (such for larger ships like cruisers and carriers, possibly super carrier) or have different types of ammunition such as HEAT-type ordnance or kinetic projectile (designed to penetrate though hull then explode inside of hull).

There is other variant of MAC, which is most powerful MAC variant utilized by UNSC: Super-MAC ODP- it fires 3,000 ton ferric hardened tungsten or depleted uranium or can be other type of slugs as well, at 4% of light-speed (estimated about 120,000 meters per second) generating about 51.6 gigatons of TNT, enough to destory any ship, even with fully shielded ships in one shot.

About plasma weaponry, there is no accurate specs about them but it has been proved by several books that it can cause massive damage. For instance, at The Fall of Reach novel and The boot camp of Reach comic during UNSC Commonwealth had its hull melted/decimated, due to impact of pulse lasers and possible plasma torpedoes. Also in First Strike and Ghosts of Onyx describes about UNSC ships being obliterated by ship-grade plasma weapons. Also at Battle of Reach, UNSC Trafalgar, even with 10 meters of Titanium-A Battle-plate, still had its hull being vaporized or melted by ship-grade plasma weapons. We can estimate that ship-grade plasma weaponry possesses double-digit to triple digit of gigatons of TNT, possibly to a single digit of teraton of TNT (not sure, although.) and it can track other ships as well.

What about energy projectors? They're way more powerful than any ship-grade plasma weapons. I can give you a example: At battle of Reach, a covenant super-cruiser, big as three UNSC cruisers speaking of lengths (about 3,000 to 3,500 meters long), fires a thin blue-white energy beam in 100,000km away, completely slices five UNSC ships like a butter.

Also, Covenant's shields are more powerful, depending on type of ships. A CCS battle-cruiser can withstand up to 3 MAC rounds or two plasma torpedoes stated by First Strike as Cortana utilized plasma torpedoes in Ascendent Justice-Gettysburg before the shields disappear. Or, Covenant super-cruiser had powerful shields that had enough to shrug off 3 MAC rounds, with over 450 archer missiles before it got destroyed due to PoA put a shiva-nuclear warhead in Longsword in the super cruiser. Then, let's not mention that assault carriers or super carriers are way more powerful.

I will add more if anyone desires me to.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, although.



the reason i call you a noob, is because you make generalized assumptions without doing research yourself.

star Trek is very in depth. you have to pay attention to detail to get a full understating.

let me break down for you, STAR TREK. then you can compare to your inferior MAC/PLASMA and you'll understand:


Principle: While damage in most scifi energy weapons is rated on a scale, Not necessarily does Damage Dealt in # subtract from total damage withstand.
in Star Trek universe, LASERS do not even penetrate Deflector shields. Shield are completely advanced to the point Lasers, REGARDLESS of Power (kila joules or whatever) connot penetrate the shields. Even if the Death Star were to fire on the Enterprise, it would be like shooting WATER at it.
Most people have a hard time coming to terms with that.
They dont seem to grasp that LASERS is like WATER to a Federation shield.

Best way to put it: Whats more lethal, a pound of fire crackers or a pound of C4? BOTH are a pound. But C4 will create bigger explosion.

So saying "Blah blah kilo jouls of plasma" In start trek, is like saying "Blah blah kilo jouls of water"

Plasma weapons in star trek are considered OUT DATED. Mankind uses photon energy ( FAR MORE POWERFUL THAN PLASMA) because Mankind Advanced plasma to its limits. and now, They are moving onto Quantum Energy because Photonic energy has reached its limits.

So in essence, PLASMA weapons would be ill effective against Federation shields.

Even a LIGHT burst of the enterprises Mark 13 Phasers, would cut thru a covies shields and HULL. you need to understand, The weapons are different, And the universe Laws are different. Star Treks universe plays on VERY HEAVY Weapons.

Im going to explain why you are ignorant for this statment:
"And, I doubt that Star Fleet or Borg can stand against UNSC or Covenant, if it fights mentioning Forerunners/Flood, well Borg or Star Fleet will be vaporized... In my opinion, although."

your opinion means crap, since opinions are not FACT. you know nothing of star Trek, Star Wars, BSG, or anything other than Halo.

So let me answer all your questions by quoting the Borg:


"We Are the borg. You will be ASSIMILATED. We will add your BIOLOGICAL and TECHNOLOGICAL distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. RESISTANCE... IS FUTILE"




The borg ADAPT. Thats their whole purpose.
NO WHERE in star trek does it say Borg connot adapt to projectiles. it s ASSUMED cause first contact, Picard killed 2 drones with bullets.

Did it occure to anyone, maybe the borg have never been shot with bullets before and have NOW adapted?
DONT assume.
when you ASSUME you make an as$ out of U M E

Im very knowledgeable, and am happy to answers questions.
But when you go calling me Fanboy, especially when my original post does not attack nor defend either, then you deserve title:

NOOB.

  • 06.11.2011 12:46 PM PDT
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And yes, ZERG would beat the flood.

PLEASE Do some research on the Zerg before being an idiot and and trying to prove this wrong.

  • 06.11.2011 12:48 PM PDT
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Also, i might point out:

Someone mentioned that the flood have spores that once inhaled, can take over their host.



The BORG ASSIMILATE.
They would ASSIMILATE those flood SPORES, then ADAPT to the flood SPORES. Hence why, in star Trek, the BORG are the greatest Threat. They ADAPT to everything. they ASSIMILATE everything.

"we will add your BIOLOGICAL distinctiveness to our own"



EVEN MAC rounds OR PLASMA would be adapted to and ASSIMILATED to their SHIPS. They would USE the MACS agaisnt the UNSC (tho macs are inferior to the BORGS Weapons)

"we will add your TECHNOLOGICAL distinctiveness to our own"


  • 06.11.2011 1:00 PM PDT

This is just getting odd now, same as always. Going to add some things to add some insight into the discussion, firstly regarding energy, it cannot just disappear into nothing. Lets look at the effects, a piece of rock around 2 kilometres across hits the Earth at 25,000 metres/second. The rock is in no way explosive, however when it hits a planet (the Earth for example) the resulting explosion is in the millions of megaton range (Star Wars turbo-lasers, apparently). This is a result of kinetic energy, the mass combined with the movement of the object result in a massive release of energy because the kinetic energy cannot just disappear, it gets converted into heat and light. Magnetic Accelerator Cannons work in this way, they convert something generic (a metallic projectile) into a fearsome weapon through kinetic energy, when it hits an object the energy cannot just disappear? it is converted into heat and light again, in the same way the asteroid impact worked. something around the region of 50 or so kilotons of TNT for a simple round fired from a Frigate. the thing is, this works in both directions, the energy has to be put into the projectile first, same thing applies to lasers and such. Cannot get more energy out than you put in, it doesn't just come from nothing, well unless we are on about Vacuum Energy (Quantum) but that isn't for this discussion. This is what destroys Star Wars, their turbo-lasers must start off with their 'insane' amount of energy and that 'insane' energy doesn't just disappear when hitting something, against that sort of energy armour would be absolutely worthless, regardless of what its made from. So in Episode II the Core Ship should explode instantly, violently and spectacularly the second its hit by one of those 'turbo-lasers' since the energy only has one place to go, into the ship!

Star Trek, Photon Torpedoes are very powerful (not really shown in the shows and such), since they contain around 1.5 kilograms of anti-matter and 1.5 kilograms. This amount of matter/anti-matter would create an energy release equivalent to around ~60 megatons of TNT, based on the fact that matter/anti-matter reactions are the ultimate form of reaction, where both atoms (the atom of matter, and the atom of anti-matter) are annihilated, releasing their stored energy, almost all of it! also should add that Federation ships can fire torpedoes at quite a rate, the Sovereign class (Enterprise-E) can fire torpedoes in bursts of around three a second, that is potentially three, 60 megaton weapons a second. However the thing going in Star Treks favour is the fact that anti-matter/matter reactions are real, not fiction! There is a physics defined reason that a Photon Torpedo will produce this amount of energy, a method that works using the standard models and laws, so using this information a single Photon Torpedo would cause horrific damage to a Halo Universe human ship, maybe even destroy it completely, or reduce debris. The reason Star Wars is so frowned upon is because Turbo-lasers have no 'substance' (where Photon Torpedoes carry an actual, physical payload!) for their energy to come from, it is just carried in this 'bolt' and in this 'bolt' is a similar sort of energy that gets released when asteroids crash into planets, nonsense and that isn't me being bias or anything like that, just nonsense! Also worth noting is Photon Torpedoes have variable power levels (probably adjusted by the amount of matter/anti-matter contained) ranging from 1 - 10, level 5 is considered the normal (around 1 kilogram of anti-matter and 1 kilogram of matter, or around 43 megatons of TNT!), level 10 breaches arms limitation treaties.

Quantum Torpedoes are another matter altogether, since their very nature is different. Quantum Torpedoes are supposed to be able to penetrate the hull of a target ship (using some sort of phase technology I believe, or at least that was the original intention) before detonating inside the target, so worse case scenario. Also their warhead uses Zero Point Energy, or Vacuum Energy so their destructive power would likely be extreme, again not really shown in the series as it would make them over-powered to hell! So again, a single Quantum Torpedo could probably destroy most Halo Universe ships based, at least based on their 'physics', not really so much based on the series.

  • 06.11.2011 1:51 PM PDT

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Do not leap blindly into uncertainty,
And you may live to reap the rewards.

"The Important Thing Is To Never Stop Questioning,"

I had no idea ME, SW, and Halo were all in the same universe and would ever need/want to fight each other. Guess I need to catch up or something.

Also: Stargate Pwns all. No real reason other than I loved SG1

  • 06.11.2011 2:13 PM PDT
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Out of these three universes, Halo has the most broken faction in the Forerunners. Their technology outpaces all of these universes by a fairly grotesque margin. Their strategy could simply be: retreat to Shield Worlds, fire Halos, and there is nothing Star Wars or Mass Effect could do about it.

Mass Effect only has the Reapers going for it against the Forerunners, and because they can be destroyed by conventional means (frickin' space-torpedoes), aren't that massive, and cannot go FTL without the Mass Relays, they cannot contend with the Forerunners.

Star Wars, everything dies, if the games and movies are concerned. There's probably some broken, non-sensical crap in the literature that allows them to circumvent being wiped out by a Halo pulse.

[Edited on 06.11.2011 2:38 PM PDT]

  • 06.11.2011 2:33 PM PDT


Posted by: IXI ZeroExE IXI
Also, i might point out:

Someone mentioned that the flood have spores that once inhaled, can take over their host.



The BORG ASSIMILATE.
They would ASSIMILATE those flood SPORES, then ADAPT to the flood SPORES. Hence why, in star Trek, the BORG are the greatest Threat. They ADAPT to everything. they ASSIMILATE everything.

"we will add your BIOLOGICAL distinctiveness to our own"



EVEN MAC rounds OR PLASMA would be adapted to and ASSIMILATED to their SHIPS. They would USE the MACS agaisnt the UNSC (tho macs are inferior to the BORGS Weapons)

"we will add your TECHNOLOGICAL distinctiveness to our own"




Borg Assimilation is not perfect.

1) Not all weapons can be adapted (kinetics)

2) Not all biological creatures can be Assimilated (Species *insert number here*)

Borg Assimilation requires insertion of nanoprobes into the creature directly. The Flood Super Cell is designed to be perfect. It is infinitely adaptable and immune to outside attacks, as per the besterium.

As the Flood fall into both categories (kinetics and uncontrollable) they'd be the worst enemy the Borg have fought since Species *Number*. Except worse as, since the FSC is a mental connection to all Flood everywhere, the Gravemind would know everything about the Borg upon a single infection of their biological components

  • 06.11.2011 2:46 PM PDT

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So every living thing capable of combat from Halo, ME, SW, and ST duking it out?

  • 06.11.2011 4:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: IXI ZeroExE IXI

the reason i call you a noob, is because you make generalized assumptions without doing research yourself.

star Trek is very in depth. you have to pay attention to detail to get a full understating.

let me break down for you, STAR TREK. then you can compare to your inferior MAC/PLASMA and you'll understand:


Principle: While damage in most scifi energy weapons is rated on a scale, Not necessarily does Damage Dealt in # subtract from total damage withstand.
in Star Trek universe, LASERS do not even penetrate Deflector shields. Shield are completely advanced to the point Lasers, REGARDLESS of Power (kila joules or whatever) connot penetrate the shields. Even if the Death Star were to fire on the Enterprise, it would be like shooting WATER at it.
Most people have a hard time coming to terms with that.
They dont seem to grasp that LASERS is like WATER to a Federation shield.

Best way to put it: Whats more lethal, a pound of fire crackers or a pound of C4? BOTH are a pound. But C4 will create bigger explosion.

So saying "Blah blah kilo jouls of plasma" In start trek, is like saying "Blah blah kilo jouls of water"

Plasma weapons in star trek are considered OUT DATED. Mankind uses photon energy ( FAR MORE POWERFUL THAN PLASMA) because Mankind Advanced plasma to its limits. and now, They are moving onto Quantum Energy because Photonic energy has reached its limits.

So in essence, PLASMA weapons would be ill effective against Federation shields.

Even a LIGHT burst of the enterprises Mark 13 Phasers, would cut thru a covies shields and HULL. you need to understand, The weapons are different, And the universe Laws are different. Star Treks universe plays on VERY HEAVY Weapons.

Im going to explain why you are ignorant for this statment:
"And, I doubt that Star Fleet or Borg can stand against UNSC or Covenant, if it fights mentioning Forerunners/Flood, well Borg or Star Fleet will be vaporized... In my opinion, although."

your opinion means crap, since opinions are not FACT. you know nothing of star Trek, Star Wars, BSG, or anything other than Halo.

So let me answer all your questions by quoting the Borg:


"We Are the borg. You will be ASSIMILATED. We will add your BIOLOGICAL and TECHNOLOGICAL distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. RESISTANCE... IS FUTILE"




The borg ADAPT. Thats their whole purpose.
NO WHERE in star trek does it say Borg connot adapt to projectiles. it s ASSUMED cause first contact, Picard killed 2 drones with bullets.

Did it occure to anyone, maybe the borg have never been shot with bullets before and have NOW adapted?
DONT assume.
when you ASSUME you make an as$ out of U M E

Im very knowledgeable, and am happy to answers questions.
But when you go calling me Fanboy, especially when my original post does not attack nor defend either, then you deserve title:

NOOB.


Actually I have researched on Star Trek heavily, and I found out that Albative armor that Star Fleet uses for primary hull aren't designed to withstand the explosive compounds- Look at new movie version and notice that "mine-like" torpedoes utterly ripped the hull apart. Ablative armor's chemical properties were designed to offer resistance against the phasers and laser-based technology weapons. And one more thing, Ablative armor is also isn't designed to withstand high-temperature weapons such as plasma as well. Plasma can be hot as 4,000 degrees, enough to melt any metal known to any mankind.

And, Quantum and Photon torpedoes are only weapon that can only rival against the Covenant. Do you realize that plasma weaponry (utilized by Covenant and can be utilized by UNSC if there's SMART AI to utilize the plasma weaponry more efficiently, can effectively destroy any ships, due to being nature of generating about double-digits to triple digits of GIGATONS of TNT or even a single digit of TERATON of TNT?)

In first strike novel, a plasma torpedoes is enough to vaporize a large asteroid entirely, that can be assumed that it's powerful.

And Photon and Quantum Torpedoes firepower generates about double digit of megatons of TNT, that's same amount with shiva nuclear warheads or HAVOK nuclear warheads. Guess what, nuclear warhead didn't do any -blam!- against the shields, despite of being double digit of megaton of TNT. I doubt that photon or quantum torpedoes can actually hurt any Covenant ships... but it can destroy UNSC ships without any doubt due to no shielding.

Still, the borgs would be still destroyed by Flood due to two reasons: If a flood spore infects a borg member, Gravemind can instantly know everything about borg and exploit the weakness which Flood'll wipe out Borgs in ease. You forget that Flood is fundamentally perfect biology, designed to wipe any species, no matter what their technology or strengths of military forces are. Flood'll just destroy them in ease.

And Borg can adapt to almost anything expect kinetic weapons such as MAC or bullets.

Let's not forget about Forerunners and Flood... they numbers in trillions, FAR more than Federation or Borg combined. Forerunners once had massive warships that can be 15 to 30km long.


[Edited on 06.11.2011 9:13 PM PDT]

  • 06.11.2011 9:02 PM PDT

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Great discussion going on here.
But the Halo, SW, ME, ST, BSG, and SG1 universes wouldn't stand a chance against the Doctor.

  • 06.11.2011 9:14 PM PDT
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We should know better, because we are better.


Posted by: Lantus Nova
Great discussion going on here.
But the Halo, SW, ME, ST, BSG, and SG1 universes wouldn't stand a chance against the Doctor.
The Daleks are up there as one of the most powerful races of all time, right along with the Ancients, Forerunners, Daemons and Q. The fact that they had a bomb that could destroy all of reality and actualy succeeded in doing (albeit in an alternate time line) is proof enough of their power.

DW as a whole is really powerful.

  • 06.11.2011 9:23 PM PDT
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SC = Supreme Commander/Supreme Canadian.

De Facto leader of the military of the APE (Allied Planets Empire).

Coup = Admiral Asskicker, ZPM hive ship

You just opened the biggest can of worms that has ever existed, OP.

  • 06.11.2011 9:33 PM PDT

...Except no Precursors still exist and we have no definitive knowledge of what the Precursors were capable of.

In fact, I'd argue that the most powerful things in the Halo universe are Forerunner and Forerunner related. The Forerunners beat the Precursors in battle and all but wiped them out, and the next most powerful species was pre-historic Humanity, but again the Forerunners beat them down destroyed essentially all traces of the prehistoric Human empire, and sent us back to essentially our known history.

Perhaps the Forerunners would be able to stand up to SW or ME. We don't know. All we know is that the Forerunners are gone, and the only things they've left behind are mysteries (and the Halo rings, but that doesn't count as a "win", as it's essentially a "Kill everything and tie" option).

  • 06.11.2011 9:39 PM PDT

This is one big bowl of fail anyway, To compare two galaxies with completely different forms of tech and races ect. Is stupid and pointless because it always comes down to.

"I HAVE FORERUNNERS I WIN!!!! WELL I HAVE FORCE SO I WIN!!!! WELL WE HAVE REAPERS SO WE WIN!!!!!!" Ect.

  • 06.11.2011 9:48 PM PDT
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Do not waste your tears, I was not born to watch the world grow dim. Life is not measured in years, but by the deeds of men.

Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.


Posted by: Scorpians Wrath
This is one big bowl of fail anyway, To compare two galaxies with completely different forms of tech and races ect. Is stupid and pointless because it always comes down to.

"I HAVE FORERUNNERS I WIN!!!! WELL I HAVE FORCE SO I WIN!!!! WELL WE HAVE REAPERS SO WE WIN!!!!!!" Ect.
Why can't we do it? It is always an interesting discussion and also helps to involve us in universes we know little about.

  • 06.11.2011 9:51 PM PDT


Posted by: Xd00999

Posted by: Scorpians Wrath
This is one big bowl of fail anyway, To compare two galaxies with completely different forms of tech and races ect. Is stupid and pointless because it always comes down to.

"I HAVE FORERUNNERS I WIN!!!! WELL I HAVE FORCE SO I WIN!!!! WELL WE HAVE REAPERS SO WE WIN!!!!!!" Ect.
Why can't we do it? It is always an interesting discussion and also helps to involve us in universes we know little about.


I don't know why can't you?

Because to me it doesn't seem you are discussing anything and just throw out the most powerful B.S. that your respective univese has.

Derp, Stick with what you know or simply go away and..Idfk just stop pointless B.S. that you people pull out of your ass hats.

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Posted by: Scorpians Wrath

Posted by: Xd00999

Posted by: Scorpians Wrath
This is one big bowl of fail anyway, To compare two galaxies with completely different forms of tech and races ect. Is stupid and pointless because it always comes down to.

"I HAVE FORERUNNERS I WIN!!!! WELL I HAVE FORCE SO I WIN!!!! WELL WE HAVE REAPERS SO WE WIN!!!!!!" Ect.
Why can't we do it? It is always an interesting discussion and also helps to involve us in universes we know little about.


I don't know why can't you?

Because to me it doesn't seem you are discussing anything and just throw out the most powerful B.S. that your respective univese has.

Derp, Stick with what you know or simply go away and..Idfk just stop pointless B.S. that you people pull out of your ass hats.


Actually, most of so-called B.S came from canon materials such as books, movie, games, and encyclopedia. And it's always fun to debate about universe vs universe. Try reading books/encyclopedia sometime later and you'll understand why.



  • 06.11.2011 10:11 PM PDT