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The force wouldn't really work on the haloverse.
It doesn't have any.

  • 06.11.2011 10:14 PM PDT


Posted by: raganok99

Posted by: Scorpians Wrath

Posted by: Xd00999

Posted by: Scorpians Wrath
This is one big bowl of fail anyway, To compare two galaxies with completely different forms of tech and races ect. Is stupid and pointless because it always comes down to.

"I HAVE FORERUNNERS I WIN!!!! WELL I HAVE FORCE SO I WIN!!!! WELL WE HAVE REAPERS SO WE WIN!!!!!!" Ect.
Why can't we do it? It is always an interesting discussion and also helps to involve us in universes we know little about.


I don't know why can't you?

Because to me it doesn't seem you are discussing anything and just throw out the most powerful B.S. that your respective univese has.

Derp, Stick with what you know or simply go away and..Idfk just stop pointless B.S. that you people pull out of your ass hats.


Actually, most of so-called B.S came from canon materials such as books, movie, games, and encyclopedia. And it's always fun to debate about universe vs universe. Try reading books/encyclopedia sometime later and you'll understand why.





Wow didn't think I'd have to deal with another moron today.

So are you semi-automatic or automatically retarded? Because your assuming I don't own/read my Starwars encyclopedia or my Contact Harvest Halo novel.

Respond to this if you want but again but if you do you'll need to disprove me reading said materials.

  • 06.11.2011 10:16 PM PDT


Posted by: Spartan 100
The force wouldn't really work on the haloverse.
It doesn't have any.


Wow.... Okay live in your own fantasy. But you'd need to prove that it wouldn't work in the halo universe...oh wait!

It's YOUR universe so you must know everything about it and how it works. Derp.

  • 06.11.2011 10:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: Scorpians Wrath

Posted by: Spartan 100
The force wouldn't really work on the haloverse.
It doesn't have any.


Wow.... Okay live in your own fantasy. But you'd need to prove that it wouldn't work in the halo universe...oh wait!

It's YOUR universe so you must know everything about it and how it works. Derp.

Yuuzhang Von.

  • 06.11.2011 10:23 PM PDT


Posted by: Spartan 100

Posted by: Scorpians Wrath

Posted by: Spartan 100
The force wouldn't really work on the haloverse.
It doesn't have any.


Wow.... Okay live in your own fantasy. But you'd need to prove that it wouldn't work in the halo universe...oh wait!

It's YOUR universe so you must know everything about it and how it works. Derp.

Yuuzhang Von.


Oh wow so because a race according to you is immune to the laws of the force means that everything is immune?

Again Halo has what race? And what race does Star wars have that's in common?

Also..remember. The Vong used completely different tech, similar to Bio-ships made by Speices 8472 who in theory should also be immune.

Not to mention that there is no indication of God races being immune again. Which this will inherently turn into a stale mate with both sides yelling and screaming like children.

[Edited on 06.11.2011 10:28 PM PDT]

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Posted by: Scorpians Wrath

Posted by: Xd00999

Posted by: Scorpians Wrath
This is one big bowl of fail anyway, To compare two galaxies with completely different forms of tech and races ect. Is stupid and pointless because it always comes down to.

"I HAVE FORERUNNERS I WIN!!!! WELL I HAVE FORCE SO I WIN!!!! WELL WE HAVE REAPERS SO WE WIN!!!!!!" Ect. [/quote]Why can't we do it? It is always an interesting discussion and also helps to involve us in universes we know little about. [/quote]

I don't know why can't you?

Because to me it doesn't seem you are discussing anything and just throw out the most powerful B.S. that your respective univese has.

Derp, Stick with what you know or simply go away and..Idfk just stop pointless B.S. that you people pull out of your ass hats.


Actually, most of so-called B.S came from canon materials such as books, movie, games, and encyclopedia. And it's always fun to debate about universe vs universe. Try reading books/encyclopedia sometime later and you'll understand why.





Wow didn't think I'd have to deal with another moron today.

So are you semi-automatic or automatically retarded? Because your assuming I don't own/read my Starwars encyclopedia or my Contact Harvest Halo novel.

Respond to this if you want but again but if you do you'll need to disprove me reading said materials.


Why so hostile? Calm down and have a good debate if you want to join.



[Edited on 06.11.2011 10:32 PM PDT]

  • 06.11.2011 10:26 PM PDT


Posted by: raganok99
Posted by: Scorpians Wrath

Posted by: Xd00999

Posted by: Scorpians Wrath
This is one big bowl of fail anyway, To compare two galaxies with completely different forms of tech and races ect. Is stupid and pointless because it always comes down to.

"I HAVE FORERUNNERS I WIN!!!! WELL I HAVE FORCE SO I WIN!!!! WELL WE HAVE REAPERS SO WE WIN!!!!!!" Ect. [/quote]Why can't we do it? It is always an interesting discussion and also helps to involve us in universes we know little about. [/quote]

I don't know why can't you?

Because to me it doesn't seem you are discussing anything and just throw out the most powerful B.S. that your respective univese has.

Derp, Stick with what you know or simply go away and..Idfk just stop pointless B.S. that you people pull out of your ass hats.


Actually, most of so-called B.S came from canon materials such as books, movie, games, and encyclopedia. And it's always fun to debate about universe vs universe. Try reading books/encyclopedia sometime later and you'll understand why.





Wow didn't think I'd have to deal with another moron today.

So are you semi-automatic or automatically retarded? Because your assuming I don't own/read my Starwars encyclopedia or my Contact Harvest Halo novel.

Respond to this if you want but again but if you do you'll need to disprove me reading said materials.


Why so hostile? Man it up and have a good debate if you want to join.



I don't know if your attempt at being a troll didn't fail so hard I might not have been so hostile towards you.

So I'll man it up and say this, reply to me only proves that you wish to get a rile out of me and quite honestly I'll laugh at you and pretty much ignore you.

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Posted by: Scorpians Wrath

Posted by: raganok99
Posted by: Scorpians Wrath

Posted by: Xd00999

Posted by: Scorpians Wrath
This is one big bowl of fail anyway, To compare two galaxies with completely different forms of tech and races ect. Is stupid and pointless because it always comes down to.

"I HAVE FORERUNNERS I WIN!!!! WELL I HAVE FORCE SO I WIN!!!! WELL WE HAVE REAPERS SO WE WIN!!!!!!" Ect. [/quote]Why can't we do it? It is always an interesting discussion and also helps to involve us in universes we know little about. [/quote]

I don't know why can't you?

Because to me it doesn't seem you are discussing anything and just throw out the most powerful B.S. that your respective univese has.

Derp, Stick with what you know or simply go away and..Idfk just stop pointless B.S. that you people pull out of your ass hats.


Actually, most of so-called B.S came from canon materials such as books, movie, games, and encyclopedia. And it's always fun to debate about universe vs universe. Try reading books/encyclopedia sometime later and you'll understand why.





Wow didn't think I'd have to deal with another moron today.

So are you semi-automatic or automatically retarded? Because your assuming I don't own/read my Starwars encyclopedia or my Contact Harvest Halo novel.

Respond to this if you want but again but if you do you'll need to disprove me reading said materials.


Why so hostile? Man it up and have a good debate if you want to join.



I don't know if your attempt at being a troll didn't fail so hard I might not have been so hostile towards you.

So I'll man it up and say this, reply to me only proves that you wish to get a rile out of me and quite honestly I'll laugh at you and pretty much ignore you.



Uh, what? I didn't even start to argue with you. Since this thread existed, I only argued with is zero guy.

Uh, ok. Have fun with being ignorant. In case, don't bother to posting here.

  • 06.11.2011 10:36 PM PDT


Posted by: raganok99
Posted by: Scorpians Wrath

Posted by: Xd00999

Posted by: Scorpians Wrath
This is one big bowl of fail anyway, To compare two galaxies with completely different forms of tech and races ect. Is stupid and pointless because it always comes down to.

"I HAVE FORERUNNERS I WIN!!!! WELL I HAVE FORCE SO I WIN!!!! WELL WE HAVE REAPERS SO WE WIN!!!!!!" Ect. [/quote]Why can't we do it? It is always an interesting discussion and also helps to involve us in universes we know little about. [/quote]

I don't know why can't you?

Because to me it doesn't seem you are discussing anything and just throw out the most powerful B.S. that your respective univese has.

Derp, Stick with what you know or simply go away and..Idfk just stop pointless B.S. that you people pull out of your ass hats.[/quote]

Actually, most of so-called B.S came from canon materials such as books, movie, games, and encyclopedia. And it's always fun to debate about universe vs universe. Try reading books/encyclopedia sometime later and you'll understand why.



[/quote]

Wow didn't think I'd have to deal with another moron today.

So are you semi-automatic or automatically retarded? Because your assuming I don't own/read my Starwars encyclopedia or my Contact Harvest Halo novel.

Respond to this if you want but again but if you do you'll need to disprove me reading said materials.


Why so hostile? Man it up and have a good debate if you want to join.



I don't know if your attempt at being a troll didn't fail so hard I might not have been so hostile towards you.

So I'll man it up and say this, reply to me only proves that you wish to get a rile out of me and quite honestly I'll laugh at you and pretty much ignore you.



Uh, what? I didn't even start to argue with you. Since this thread existed, I only argued with is zero guy.

Uh, ok. Have fun with being ignorant. In case, don't bother to posting here.


And I commence with the laughing. You're "Go read a book" comment obviously slips your memory.

Unless you directed it at someone else then I am sorely mistaken but if I remember correctly that was quoted at me and as such you are the ignorant one. Good day to you unkind moron.

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Posted by: Xd00999

Posted by: Scorpians Wrath
This is one big bowl of fail anyway, To compare two galaxies with completely different forms of tech and races ect. Is stupid and pointless because it always comes down to.

"I HAVE FORERUNNERS I WIN!!!! WELL I HAVE FORCE SO I WIN!!!! WELL WE HAVE REAPERS SO WE WIN!!!!!!" Ect. [/quote]Why can't we do it? It is always an interesting discussion and also helps to involve us in universes we know little about. [/quote]

I don't know why can't you?

Because to me it doesn't seem you are discussing anything and just throw out the most powerful B.S. that your respective univese has.

Derp, Stick with what you know or simply go away and..Idfk just stop pointless B.S. that you people pull out of your ass hats.[/quote]

Actually, most of so-called B.S came from canon materials such as books, movie, games, and encyclopedia. And it's always fun to debate about universe vs universe. Try reading books/encyclopedia sometime later and you'll understand why.



[/quote]

Wow didn't think I'd have to deal with another moron today.

So are you semi-automatic or automatically retarded? Because your assuming I don't own/read my Starwars encyclopedia or my Contact Harvest Halo novel.

Respond to this if you want but again but if you do you'll need to disprove me reading said materials.[/quote]

Why so hostile? Man it up and have a good debate if you want to join.

[/quote]

I don't know if your attempt at being a troll didn't fail so hard I might not have been so hostile towards you.

So I'll man it up and say this, reply to me only proves that you wish to get a rile out of me and quite honestly I'll laugh at you and pretty much ignore you.

[/quote]

Uh, what? I didn't even start to argue with you. Since this thread existed, I only argued with is zero guy.

Uh, ok. Have fun with being ignorant. In case, don't bother to posting here.


And I commence with the laughing. You're "Go read a book" comment obviously slips your memory.

Unless you directed it at someone else then I am sorely mistaken but if I remember correctly that was quoted at me and as such you are the ignorant one. Good day to you unkind moron.


Again, stop assuming that I'm moron. I was explaining about that most of BS which you speak about, came from canon materials. >.>

Like I said, don't bother to posting here again especially with your behavior here.

*facepalm*

Forerunners are extremely powerful civilization, they have trillions of ships, and in cryptum book, it states that many ships can be 15 to 30km long, have virtually god-like hull armor, uses high-tech weapons, etc. Even they beat Precrusors that were "supposedly" to be Technology Tier 0 which it is god-like. This is example how canon materials describe.

There is no doubt that Star Wars can beat anything due to insane amounts of firepower and insane technology levels. (only if normal forces are against other normal forces, although. If it were to fight against Flood or Forerunners or even Precrusors, then star wars would lose considerably, depending on certain level.)

[Edited on 06.11.2011 10:47 PM PDT]

  • 06.11.2011 10:44 PM PDT

Posted by: Duardo
Not really. Your mom is over quite enough to make my fears mute.
Posted by: colbyrules8
Posted by: Duardo
Being alone.
You're a mod, you should be used to that.


Posted by: Scorpians Wrath

Posted by: Spartan 100

Posted by: Scorpians Wrath

Posted by: Spartan 100
The force wouldn't really work on the haloverse.
It doesn't have any.


Wow.... Okay live in your own fantasy. But you'd need to prove that it wouldn't work in the halo universe...oh wait!

It's YOUR universe so you must know everything about it and how it works. Derp.

Yuuzhang Von.


Oh wow so because a race according to you is immune to the laws of the force means that everything is immune?

Again Halo has what race? And what race does Star wars have that's in common?

Also..remember. The Vong used completely different tech, similar to Bio-ships made by Speices 8472 who in theory should also be immune.

Not to mention that there is no indication of God races being immune again. Which this will inherently turn into a stale mate with both sides yelling and screaming like children.
You. are. a . nerd

  • 06.11.2011 10:46 PM PDT


Posted by: raganok99


Posted by: Xd00999

Posted by: Scorpians Wrath
This is one big bowl of fail anyway, To compare two galaxies with completely different forms of tech and races ect. Is stupid and pointless because it always comes down to.

"I HAVE FORERUNNERS I WIN!!!! WELL I HAVE FORCE SO I WIN!!!! WELL WE HAVE REAPERS SO WE WIN!!!!!!" Ect. [/quote]Why can't we do it? It is always an interesting discussion and also helps to involve us in universes we know little about. [/quote]

I don't know why can't you?

Because to me it doesn't seem you are discussing anything and just throw out the most powerful B.S. that your respective univese has.

Derp, Stick with what you know or simply go away and..Idfk just stop pointless B.S. that you people pull out of your ass hats.[/quote]

Actually, most of so-called B.S came from canon materials such as books, movie, games, and encyclopedia. And it's always fun to debate about universe vs universe. Try reading books/encyclopedia sometime later and you'll understand why.



[/quote]

Wow didn't think I'd have to deal with another moron today.

So are you semi-automatic or automatically retarded? Because your assuming I don't own/read my Starwars encyclopedia or my Contact Harvest Halo novel.

Respond to this if you want but again but if you do you'll need to disprove me reading said materials.[/quote]

Why so hostile? Man it up and have a good debate if you want to join.

[/quote]

I don't know if your attempt at being a troll didn't fail so hard I might not have been so hostile towards you.

So I'll man it up and say this, reply to me only proves that you wish to get a rile out of me and quite honestly I'll laugh at you and pretty much ignore you.

[/quote]

Uh, what? I didn't even start to argue with you. Since this thread existed, I only argued with is zero guy.

Uh, ok. Have fun with being ignorant. In case, don't bother to posting here.


And I commence with the laughing. You're "Go read a book" comment obviously slips your memory.

Unless you directed it at someone else then I am sorely mistaken but if I remember correctly that was quoted at me and as such you are the ignorant one. Good day to you unkind moron.


Again, stop assuming that I'm moron. I was explaining about that most of BS which you speak about, came from canon materials. >.>

Like I said, don't bother to posting here again especially with your behavior here.

*facepalm*

Forerunners are extremely powerful civilization, they have trillions of ships, and in cryptum book, it states that many ships can be 15 to 30km long, have virtually god-like hull armor, uses high-tech weapons, etc. Even they beat Precrusors that were "supposedly" to be Technology Tier 0 which it is god-like. This is example how canon materials describe.

There is no doubt that Star Wars can beat anything due to insane amounts of firepower and insane technology levels. (only if normal forces are against other normal forces, although. If it were to fight against Flood or Forerunners or even Precrusors, then star wars would lose considerably, depending on certain level.)


Right Because the Empire has no protocols against infection.(Watch as I dis-regaurd the god race)

Also your statement which was an obvious troll started the flame of my attitude toward you and I'm not assuming. I know you are an ignorant and rather bias moron. (NO tech specs on weapons or shields=Fail.)

  • 06.11.2011 11:03 PM PDT
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Esro 'Ecaulee is my name, and I wear black armour....

Indiana Jones Vs flood.

/thread

  • 06.11.2011 11:05 PM PDT


Posted by: colbyrules8

Posted by: Scorpians Wrath

Posted by: Spartan 100

Posted by: Scorpians Wrath

Posted by: Spartan 100
The force wouldn't really work on the haloverse.
It doesn't have any.


Wow.... Okay live in your own fantasy. But you'd need to prove that it wouldn't work in the halo universe...oh wait!

It's YOUR universe so you must know everything about it and how it works. Derp.

Yuuzhang Von.


Oh wow so because a race according to you is immune to the laws of the force means that everything is immune?

Again Halo has what race? And what race does Star wars have that's in common?

Also..remember. The Vong used completely different tech, similar to Bio-ships made by Speices 8472 who in theory should also be immune.

Not to mention that there is no indication of God races being immune again. Which this will inherently turn into a stale mate with both sides yelling and screaming like children.
You. are. a . nerd


Whats.your.point.Sir.points.out.obvious.alot?

  • 06.11.2011 11:05 PM PDT


Posted by: Ender Ghost
Indiana Jones Vs flood.

/thread


This.

  • 06.11.2011 11:06 PM PDT


Posted by: Scorpians Wrath

Posted by: Ender Ghost
Indiana Jones Vs flood.

/thread


This.


We have a winner!

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Posted by: Scorpians Wrath

Posted by: raganok99


Posted by: Xd00999

Posted by: Scorpians Wrath
This is one big bowl of fail anyway, To compare two galaxies with completely different forms of tech and races ect. Is stupid and pointless because it always comes down to.

"I HAVE FORERUNNERS I WIN!!!! WELL I HAVE FORCE SO I WIN!!!! WELL WE HAVE REAPERS SO WE WIN!!!!!!" Ect. [/quote]Why can't we do it? It is always an interesting discussion and also helps to involve us in universes we know little about. [/quote]

I don't know why can't you?

Because to me it doesn't seem you are discussing anything and just throw out the most powerful B.S. that your respective univese has.

Derp, Stick with what you know or simply go away and..Idfk just stop pointless B.S. that you people pull out of your ass hats.[/quote]

Actually, most of so-called B.S came from canon materials such as books, movie, games, and encyclopedia. And it's always fun to debate about universe vs universe. Try reading books/encyclopedia sometime later and you'll understand why.



[/quote]

Wow didn't think I'd have to deal with another moron today.

So are you semi-automatic or automatically retarded? Because your assuming I don't own/read my Starwars encyclopedia or my Contact Harvest Halo novel.

Respond to this if you want but again but if you do you'll need to disprove me reading said materials.[/quote]

Why so hostile? Man it up and have a good debate if you want to join.

[/quote]

I don't know if your attempt at being a troll didn't fail so hard I might not have been so hostile towards you.

So I'll man it up and say this, reply to me only proves that you wish to get a rile out of me and quite honestly I'll laugh at you and pretty much ignore you.

[/quote]

Uh, what? I didn't even start to argue with you. Since this thread existed, I only argued with is zero guy.

Uh, ok. Have fun with being ignorant. In case, don't bother to posting here.


And I commence with the laughing. You're "Go read a book" comment obviously slips your memory.

Unless you directed it at someone else then I am sorely mistaken but if I remember correctly that was quoted at me and as such you are the ignorant one. Good day to you unkind moron.


Again, stop assuming that I'm moron. I was explaining about that most of BS which you speak about, came from canon materials. >.>

Like I said, don't bother to posting here again especially with your behavior here.

*facepalm*

Forerunners are extremely powerful civilization, they have trillions of ships, and in cryptum book, it states that many ships can be 15 to 30km long, have virtually god-like hull armor, uses high-tech weapons, etc. Even they beat Precrusors that were "supposedly" to be Technology Tier 0 which it is god-like. This is example how canon materials describe.

There is no doubt that Star Wars can beat anything due to insane amounts of firepower and insane technology levels. (only if normal forces are against other normal forces, although. If it were to fight against Flood or Forerunners or even Precrusors, then star wars would lose considerably, depending on certain level.)


Right Because the Empire has no protocols against infection.(Watch as I dis-regaurd the god race)

Also your statement which was an obvious troll started the flame of my attitude toward you and I'm not assuming. I know you are an ignorant and rather bias moron. (NO tech specs on weapons or shields=Fail.)


Again, I'm not troll, even not close to that. Sad for you, I have been on bungie.net for two years. And, it sounds like that you're just a angry person. And reasons why it hasn't revealed about tech specs on weapons and shields because it ISN'T revealed yet! Give it some time to create new encyclopedia or something. But it has proved that Forerunners is indeed, massively powerful civilization, capable of being technology tier 1. Then, tell me what's technology tier that star wars currently have now?

Since when I'm ignorant and biased? I was simply pointing out about any race's technology capability, etc. Also, I already admitted that Star Wars would win on any front if it's only against normal races or maybe against ancient races.

And it's possible that you are a troll since I checked your account and you created new account in four days ago. And never played halo much, what it makes you know that halo will lose to any universe? You don't know squat about it. So, like I said, go read a book or something then come back with arguments with evidence/tech specs.


[Edited on 06.11.2011 11:20 PM PDT]

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Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: IXI ZeroExE IXI
Also, i might point out:

Someone mentioned that the flood have spores that once inhaled, can take over their host.



The BORG ASSIMILATE.
They would ASSIMILATE those flood SPORES, then ADAPT to the flood SPORES. Hence why, in star Trek, the BORG are the greatest Threat. They ADAPT to everything. they ASSIMILATE everything.

"we will add your BIOLOGICAL distinctiveness to our own"



EVEN MAC rounds OR PLASMA would be adapted to and ASSIMILATED to their SHIPS. They would USE the MACS agaisnt the UNSC (tho macs are inferior to the BORGS Weapons)

"we will add your TECHNOLOGICAL distinctiveness to our own"




Borg Assimilation is not perfect.

1) Not all weapons can be adapted (kinetics)

2) Not all biological creatures can be Assimilated (Species *insert number here*)

Borg Assimilation requires insertion of nanoprobes into the creature directly. The Flood Super Cell is designed to be perfect. It is infinitely adaptable and immune to outside attacks, as per the besterium.

As the Flood fall into both categories (kinetics and uncontrollable) they'd be the worst enemy the Borg have fought since Species *Number*. Except worse as, since the FSC is a mental connection to all Flood everywhere, the Gravemind would know everything about the Borg upon a single infection of their biological components



Actually, umm... the borg achieve perfection.
borg HAVE assimilated Species 8472 units into their collective.
They had a hard time adapting to the biological Weapon of their BATTLE SHIPS. but the queen herself said, even without Janeways assistance, eventually they would have.

Biological weapons on their space craft WAS an issue. But thanks to Janeway, she discovered a new weapon and, possible defense for the borg using the nanoprobes.

"Borg Assimilation requires insertion of nanoprobes"
FAIL
Go watch: Star trek voyager: End Game
Janeway infects borg with pathogen, Later in episode, Queen tells Janeway "I have assimilated your pathogen"
OH SNAP
how could that be?? but but.. you said they have to insert nano probes? OMG star trek is lying =O

Or you need to go watch star trek before refuting my claims ;)

Once again, the BORG would desecrate the Flood. Allow me to Play the scenerio:
Scenario:
*Borg cube arrives at installation.
Scans it.
Sends drones down to surface.
Drones get killed by flood, other drones adapt.
Flood attempt to infect drone
Borg assimilates flood, Nano's take over flood host.
Borg finds nothing useful of Flood.
Drones beam back to Cube
Cube locks weapons. Destroys ring. flood dead.*


how, would the borg lose to the flood?
even if the flood tried to infect a drone, once the drone is transported, the transporter buffer will filter out the spore
=O
pwned again.
LOL

this is why i hate "Versus" debates. they are opinionated, and people don't want to face facts. They will ignore invaluable info and make something up out of their @$$ to prove a point they believe is true.
When in actual fact, they shouldn't be refuting statements unless they actually have watched / played both THOROUGHLY.

And yes, you bet you @$$ i know alot about halo. hence i KNOW nothing in Halo could touch, pretty well anything in star trek.

maybe BSG would be a good match for halo ;)

[Edited on 06.12.2011 3:46 AM PDT]

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Posted by: raganok99

Posted by: IXI ZeroExE IXI

the reason i call you a noob, is because you make generalized assumptions without doing research yourself.

star Trek is very in depth. you have to pay attention to detail to get a full understating.

let me break down for you, STAR TREK. then you can compare to your inferior MAC/PLASMA and you'll understand:


Principle: While damage in most scifi energy weapons is rated on a scale, Not necessarily does Damage Dealt in # subtract from total damage withstand.
in Star Trek universe, LASERS do not even penetrate Deflector shields. Shield are completely advanced to the point Lasers, REGARDLESS of Power (kila joules or whatever) connot penetrate the shields. Even if the Death Star were to fire on the Enterprise, it would be like shooting WATER at it.
Most people have a hard time coming to terms with that.
They dont seem to grasp that LASERS is like WATER to a Federation shield.

Best way to put it: Whats more lethal, a pound of fire crackers or a pound of C4? BOTH are a pound. But C4 will create bigger explosion.

So saying "Blah blah kilo jouls of plasma" In start trek, is like saying "Blah blah kilo jouls of water"

Plasma weapons in star trek are considered OUT DATED. Mankind uses photon energy ( FAR MORE POWERFUL THAN PLASMA) because Mankind Advanced plasma to its limits. and now, They are moving onto Quantum Energy because Photonic energy has reached its limits.

So in essence, PLASMA weapons would be ill effective against Federation shields.

Even a LIGHT burst of the enterprises Mark 13 Phasers, would cut thru a covies shields and HULL. you need to understand, The weapons are different, And the universe Laws are different. Star Treks universe plays on VERY HEAVY Weapons.

Im going to explain why you are ignorant for this statment:
"And, I doubt that Star Fleet or Borg can stand against UNSC or Covenant, if it fights mentioning Forerunners/Flood, well Borg or Star Fleet will be vaporized... In my opinion, although."

your opinion means crap, since opinions are not FACT. you know nothing of star Trek, Star Wars, BSG, or anything other than Halo.

So let me answer all your questions by quoting the Borg:


"We Are the borg. You will be ASSIMILATED. We will add your BIOLOGICAL and TECHNOLOGICAL distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. RESISTANCE... IS FUTILE"




The borg ADAPT. Thats their whole purpose.
NO WHERE in star trek does it say Borg connot adapt to projectiles. it s ASSUMED cause first contact, Picard killed 2 drones with bullets.

Did it occure to anyone, maybe the borg have never been shot with bullets before and have NOW adapted?
DONT assume.
when you ASSUME you make an as$ out of U M E

Im very knowledgeable, and am happy to answers questions.
But when you go calling me Fanboy, especially when my original post does not attack nor defend either, then you deserve title:

NOOB.


Actually I have researched on Star Trek heavily, and I found out that Albative armor that Star Fleet uses for primary hull aren't designed to withstand the explosive compounds- Look at new movie version and notice that "mine-like" torpedoes utterly ripped the hull apart. Ablative armor's chemical properties were designed to offer resistance against the phasers and laser-based technology weapons. And one more thing, Ablative armor is also isn't designed to withstand high-temperature weapons such as plasma as well. Plasma can be hot as 4,000 degrees, enough to melt any metal known to any mankind.

And, Quantum and Photon torpedoes are only weapon that can only rival against the Covenant. Do you realize that plasma weaponry (utilized by Covenant and can be utilized by UNSC if there's SMART AI to utilize the plasma weaponry more efficiently, can effectively destroy any ships, due to being nature of generating about double-digits to triple digits of GIGATONS of TNT or even a single digit of TERATON of TNT?)

In first strike novel, a plasma torpedoes is enough to vaporize a large asteroid entirely, that can be assumed that it's powerful.

And Photon and Quantum Torpedoes firepower generates about double digit of megatons of TNT, that's same amount with shiva nuclear warheads or HAVOK nuclear warheads. Guess what, nuclear warhead didn't do any -blam!- against the shields, despite of being double digit of megaton of TNT. I doubt that photon or quantum torpedoes can actually hurt any Covenant ships... but it can destroy UNSC ships without any doubt due to no shielding.

Still, the borgs would be still destroyed by Flood due to two reasons: If a flood spore infects a borg member, Gravemind can instantly know everything about borg and exploit the weakness which Flood'll wipe out Borgs in ease. You forget that Flood is fundamentally perfect biology, designed to wipe any species, no matter what their technology or strengths of military forces are. Flood'll just destroy them in ease.

And Borg can adapt to almost anything expect kinetic weapons such as MAC or bullets.

Let's not forget about Forerunners and Flood... they numbers in trillions, FAR more than Federation or Borg combined. Forerunners once had massive warships that can be 15 to 30km long.




"borg cannot adapt to kinnetic energy"
my gosh the ignorance abounds.
Someone please back that up with PROOF? What episode of what series says that? Anyone?

*cricket cricket*
borg adapt to everything. go WATCH star trek and actually learn something =)


And as for your weapons power to damage, Go back and Read # PLUT0NIUM 235 Post. He makes it clear for you.



Honestly, your too one sided and not open minded to understand. for these kind of debates, you need to be open minded. Im no longer replying to your posts, since you obviosly proven you know nothing of star trek and obviosly little about universe laws between sci fi shows.
ill leave you to think in ignorance.
=)

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Posted by: IXI ZeroExE IXI

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Posted by: IXI ZeroExE IXI
Also, i might point out:

Someone mentioned that the flood have spores that once inhaled, can take over their host.



The BORG ASSIMILATE.
They would ASSIMILATE those flood SPORES, then ADAPT to the flood SPORES. Hence why, in star Trek, the BORG are the greatest Threat. They ADAPT to everything. they ASSIMILATE everything.

"we will add your BIOLOGICAL distinctiveness to our own"



EVEN MAC rounds OR PLASMA would be adapted to and ASSIMILATED to their SHIPS. They would USE the MACS agaisnt the UNSC (tho macs are inferior to the BORGS Weapons)

"we will add your TECHNOLOGICAL distinctiveness to our own"




Borg Assimilation is not perfect.

1) Not all weapons can be adapted (kinetics)

2) Not all biological creatures can be Assimilated (Species *insert number here*)

Borg Assimilation requires insertion of nanoprobes into the creature directly. The Flood Super Cell is designed to be perfect. It is infinitely adaptable and immune to outside attacks, as per the besterium.

As the Flood fall into both categories (kinetics and uncontrollable) they'd be the worst enemy the Borg have fought since Species *Number*. Except worse as, since the FSC is a mental connection to all Flood everywhere, the Gravemind would know everything about the Borg upon a single infection of their biological components



Actually, umm... the borg achieve perfection.
borg HAVE assimilated Species 8472 units into their collective.
They had a hard time adapting to the biological Weapon of their BATTLE SHIPS. but the queen herself said, even without Janeways assistance, eventually they would have.

Biological weapons on their space craft WAS an issue. But thanks to Janeway, she discovered a new weapon and, possible defense for the borg using the nanoprobes.

Once again, the BORG would decelerate the Flood. Allow me to Play the scenerio:



Scenario:
*Borg cube arrives at installation. Scans it. Sends drones down to surface. Drones get killed by flood, other drones adapt. Borg finds nothing useful by Flood. Drones beam back to Cube*

*cube locks weapons. Destorys ring. flood dead.*


how, would the borg lose to the flood?

LOL

this is why i hate "Versus" debates. they are opinionated, and people don't want to face facts. They will ignore invaluable info and make something up out of their @$$ to prove a point they believe is true.


If you hate versus thread, then why post in this thread? *facepalm*

And, most of information aren't actually opinionated, derp. It came from canon material, derp. And do you realize that to destory the forerunner made rings or even its hull, it would require light-based or neural-based weapons? I don't think that Borgs are advanced enough to achieve like that. And flood is actually perfect biological virus, there is no way to counter that and even with all "adapt" stuff that Borg has, still would lose to Flood. Do this Borgs can adapt to "perfect" stuff? You forget that if a flood spore captures a drone, Gravemind will instantly know ANYTHING, including the weaknesses of Borg and also can control minds as well. Same methods that were used to defeat the Forerunners.

Not mention that Flood numbers in trillions, FAR surpassing Borgs. With sheer numbers, it'll overwhelm Borgs. Just did it like with forerunners.

I understand that Borgs are powerful civilization and probably can adapt almost anything, but once you pit borgs vs flood, flood wins.

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Posted by: IXI ZeroExE IXI

Posted by: raganok99

Posted by: IXI ZeroExE IXI

the reason i call you a noob, is because you make generalized assumptions without doing research yourself.

star Trek is very in depth. you have to pay attention to detail to get a full understating.

let me break down for you, STAR TREK. then you can compare to your inferior MAC/PLASMA and you'll understand:


Principle: While damage in most scifi energy weapons is rated on a scale, Not necessarily does Damage Dealt in # subtract from total damage withstand.
in Star Trek universe, LASERS do not even penetrate Deflector shields. Shield are completely advanced to the point Lasers, REGARDLESS of Power (kila joules or whatever) connot penetrate the shields. Even if the Death Star were to fire on the Enterprise, it would be like shooting WATER at it.
Most people have a hard time coming to terms with that.
They dont seem to grasp that LASERS is like WATER to a Federation shield.

Best way to put it: Whats more lethal, a pound of fire crackers or a pound of C4? BOTH are a pound. But C4 will create bigger explosion.

So saying "Blah blah kilo jouls of plasma" In start trek, is like saying "Blah blah kilo jouls of water"

Plasma weapons in star trek are considered OUT DATED. Mankind uses photon energy ( FAR MORE POWERFUL THAN PLASMA) because Mankind Advanced plasma to its limits. and now, They are moving onto Quantum Energy because Photonic energy has reached its limits.

So in essence, PLASMA weapons would be ill effective against Federation shields.

Even a LIGHT burst of the enterprises Mark 13 Phasers, would cut thru a covies shields and HULL. you need to understand, The weapons are different, And the universe Laws are different. Star Treks universe plays on VERY HEAVY Weapons.

Im going to explain why you are ignorant for this statment:
"And, I doubt that Star Fleet or Borg can stand against UNSC or Covenant, if it fights mentioning Forerunners/Flood, well Borg or Star Fleet will be vaporized... In my opinion, although."

your opinion means crap, since opinions are not FACT. you know nothing of star Trek, Star Wars, BSG, or anything other than Halo.

So let me answer all your questions by quoting the Borg:


"We Are the borg. You will be ASSIMILATED. We will add your BIOLOGICAL and TECHNOLOGICAL distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. RESISTANCE... IS FUTILE"




The borg ADAPT. Thats their whole purpose.
NO WHERE in star trek does it say Borg connot adapt to projectiles. it s ASSUMED cause first contact, Picard killed 2 drones with bullets.

Did it occure to anyone, maybe the borg have never been shot with bullets before and have NOW adapted?
DONT assume.
when you ASSUME you make an as$ out of U M E

Im very knowledgeable, and am happy to answers questions.
But when you go calling me Fanboy, especially when my original post does not attack nor defend either, then you deserve title:

NOOB.


Actually I have researched on Star Trek heavily, and I found out that Albative armor that Star Fleet uses for primary hull aren't designed to withstand the explosive compounds- Look at new movie version and notice that "mine-like" torpedoes utterly ripped the hull apart. Ablative armor's chemical properties were designed to offer resistance against the phasers and laser-based technology weapons. And one more thing, Ablative armor is also isn't designed to withstand high-temperature weapons such as plasma as well. Plasma can be hot as 4,000 degrees, enough to melt any metal known to any mankind.

And, Quantum and Photon torpedoes are only weapon that can only rival against the Covenant. Do you realize that plasma weaponry (utilized by Covenant and can be utilized by UNSC if there's SMART AI to utilize the plasma weaponry more efficiently, can effectively destroy any ships, due to being nature of generating about double-digits to triple digits of GIGATONS of TNT or even a single digit of TERATON of TNT?)

In first strike novel, a plasma torpedoes is enough to vaporize a large asteroid entirely, that can be assumed that it's powerful.

And Photon and Quantum Torpedoes firepower generates about double digit of megatons of TNT, that's same amount with shiva nuclear warheads or HAVOK nuclear warheads. Guess what, nuclear warhead didn't do any -blam!- against the shields, despite of being double digit of megaton of TNT. I doubt that photon or quantum torpedoes can actually hurt any Covenant ships... but it can destroy UNSC ships without any doubt due to no shielding.

Still, the borgs would be still destroyed by Flood due to two reasons: If a flood spore infects a borg member, Gravemind can instantly know everything about borg and exploit the weakness which Flood'll wipe out Borgs in ease. You forget that Flood is fundamentally perfect biology, designed to wipe any species, no matter what their technology or strengths of military forces are. Flood'll just destroy them in ease.

And Borg can adapt to almost anything expect kinetic weapons such as MAC or bullets.

Let's not forget about Forerunners and Flood... they numbers in trillions, FAR more than Federation or Borg combined. Forerunners once had massive warships that can be 15 to 30km long.




"borg cannot adapt to kinnetic energy"
my gosh the ignorance abounds.
Someone please back that up with PROOF? What episode of what series says that? Anyone?

*cricket cricket*
borg adapt to everything. go WATCH star trek and actually learn something =)


And as for your weapons power to damage, Go back and Read # PLUT0NIUM 235 Post. He makes it clear for you.



Honestly, your too one sided and not open minded to understand. for these kind of debates, you need to be open minded. Im no longer replying to your posts, since you obviosly proven you know nothing of star trek and obviosly little about universe laws between sci fi shows.
ill leave you to think in ignorance.
=)


Actually, his posts said that photon/quantum torpedoes GENERATE about double digits of megaton of TNT which it isn't powerful so much to gigatons or teratons of TNT, even with small amount of anti-matter.

And, one episode where Captain Picador (not sure spelling) fired a ballistic weapon at drones. I think that's how they didn't adapt to ballistic weapons (kinetic energy).

Well, same thing goes for you. You're being one sided mind as well because you're obviously star trek fanboy. And, I am pretty much open-minded. I even admitted that borgs is powerful civilization but can lose to Flood for several reasons.

And I know laws of universe pretty good. Don't make any dumb assumptions, you know nothing about me at all.

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Any civilization with Technology Tier 1 or 0 is capable to destroying the Borgs as well... So.

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I agree with you, but this wouldn't make an effective argument. Every other word is "probably"

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Mass Effect would get wrecked by halo . The covenant could solo the Reapers and everyone else at the same time , and if it was the Forerunners they would win without any losses. The UNSC would be a strong faction good in space because of higher yeild starship weapons and orbital defences(SMACS) and good on the ground because of Spartans and directed energy weapons
(Spartan Laser).

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Posted by: strugz94
Mass Effect would get wrecked by halo. The Covenant could win against the Reapers being solo only and everyone else at the same time and if it was the Forerunners they would win without any losses. The UNSC would be a strong faction good in space because of higher yield star-ship weapons and orbital defenses (SMACS) and good on the ground because of Spartans and directed energy weapons like Spartan Laser.


Fixed some of your grammar errors. Although, you're right about that Halo Universe will beat Mass Effect without any doubts. Even with UNSC, they still can win against ME due to high yield firepower. Let's see this way:

MAC firing 600 ton super-dense ferric tungsten or depleted uranium, 30,000 meters per second and generates about 64 kilotons energy of TNT, which is more powerful than Mass Accelerator cannons (38 or 36 kilotons energy of TNT).

Also, about covenant's plasma weaponry will easily melt though ablative armor with kinetic barriers due to being possibility of having double digits to triple digit of gigaton of TNT. That's mass effect's wildest dreams...

If Forerunners such was included to fight against the Reapers, it'd be overkill! Forerunners have trillions of ships, and most of them are over 15 to 30km long, have lots of crazy firepower (Most are light-based or neural-based weapons also plasma weaponry as well.) One example in Cryptum is a fortress ship with point defense guns ripped the Halo apart easily during battle.

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