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Posted by: PLUT0NIUM 235
Right this is going to be a long, long, long post so bare with me please, some Star Trek universe related posts:
1) The drones shot in First Contact were standard, assimilation drones, the Borg have access to 'Tactical' drones mentioned a number of times on Voyager with superior combat abilities, with Borg technology would guess these are rather tough drones that are intended for defence of Cubes or shock-troopers in boarding actions, also shields offer no protection against Borg transporter technology, so Covenant cruiser, just transport 25,000 drones onto it and be done with it, assimilate the cruiser and the Covenant are done, their biological and technological are added to the collective, no longer a threat.
2) 100% sure that Federation materials are highly resistant to plasma, a number of occasions E.P.S (Electro-Plasma System) conduits have exploded flooding an area with lethal plasma, the people in the area are killed but the integrity of the corridor walls is not breached, also the doors have been shown to withstand plasma exposure as well and the outer hull is significantly tougher than the corridors.
3) Federation ships are significantly faster than any ships in the Halo universe, even something the size of a Sovereign (one of the biggest Federation ships at around 700 metres) would run rings around even a human Frigate, a shot from the MAC would never, ever be on the cards since the ship has face the target. Also if Phasers burn through the materials used on Federation ships without much trouble they'll effortlessly slice clean through Titanium with little resistance, so fair enough they don't pack much 'energy' but the fact they almost out-right bypass the defences makes that point irrelevant more or less. Hell would be willing to say a Defiant class would be highly effective against human and Covenant ships alike due to their speed and agility, as well as packing serious armament.
4) There are numerous torpedoes in the Federation 'armoury' in Star Trek universe, ranging from Photon to the exotic Phase torpedoes which range in effect. Phase torpedoes for example ignore defences using phase technology, so shields and armour are irrelevant, won't make a difference whether the human ship has two metres or fifty metres of Titanium armour it won't help regardless. A single Phase torpedo would junk a Marathon class, a Covenant Cruiser, heck most things without a doubt, that is a single torpedo for a Covenant capital ship. Human ships will just be ripped to pieces by Photon and Quantum torpedoes, hell phasers would do the trick, humans or Covenant have no hope. Then we get into the realms of the monstrous Tri-Cobalt weapons which are subspace torpedoes, one of the most powerful weapons used in the Star Trek universe, these however are not standard.
5) Back to the Borg Collective, their ships are fast, fast indeed. can cross the distance from the Delta Quadrant to the Alpha Quadrant in almost no time at all (70,000 Light Years!) which would let them get to almost any target with absolutely no warning, just appearing, attacking, disappearing. Would also be willing to guess Borg ships are equally or more resistant to plasma than Federation ships, since Borg ships are on average more resilient, also with their advanced transporters would make them a rather feared opponent, even if a SPARTAN-II kills couple hundred drones, that is nothing to them, not even a droplet in the ocean and all the time would be learning and adapting, until the inevitable conclusion of either he/she is overwhelmed or the Cube simply locks onto the SPARTAN and transports them into space, rendering them useless and dead.
6) Phasers would render things like Longsword Bombers, Seraphs and such worthless since they offer more or less complete spherical coverage and should be incredibly accurate due to the fact they are beams travelling at the speed of light, at close range missing is almost impossible!
That is just a couple of things I would like to add at this time for the Star Trek side of the debate, think of something like an Akira class battle-cruiser from Star Trek engaging some human ships from the Halo universe, the fellow who designed the ship claims it was armed with fifteen torpedo launchers and an absolute stack of torpedoes, remember in First Contact when the Enterprise fires four torpedoes in around a second? Know so many on here 'frown' at such 'tiny' yields as ~64 megatons, but keep in mind the Tsar Bomb could destroy an area similar to Paris, four torpedoes a second with more power than that bomb (entirely possible based on the figures given and matter > energy conversion rules) that could be a continent levelled in a couple of seconds from significant range, Trafalgar would be eaten, absolutely eaten by that amount of fire, Autumn would just crumble, Marathons would crumble, nothing in the human inventory could survive even ONE! of those torpedoes, never mind four a second from lets guess ~8 forward launchers. Most awesome thing is, it is potentially possible to create such a warhead using matter/anti-matter so its not 'fantasy' like most of the Star Wars stuff giving it more credibility. Would love to see Star Trek made more serious, don't believe in the whole Ideological Federation society, because it doesn't work!
i Just read your post...
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=O
You are awesome. THANK YOU!
I couldnt have broken it down better myself.
theres just millions of options in the Trek universe, Making it well balanced for any sci fi comparison, tho i believe sci fi universes operate on different laws.
[Edited on 06.14.2011 10:16 PM PDT]