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Subject: Halo 2 should not be marketed for VISTA
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u know why there reasling it cuz XP Is a peice of crap. There gonna be able to add alot of stuff with the upgrades that vistas gonna have like better AI. And u may even be able to hook in wth live n play halo2. XP just dosent have the combatibiltay as vista will. N u got plenty of toime to save up for vista. Its not schedualed to reasle for another 10 monthes. The they have to realse halo2 that will be another couple months so stop CRYING

  • 03.25.2006 7:28 AM PDT
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u know why there reasling it cuz XP Is a peice of crap.[Sarcasm]Oh yeah, XP is such a big piece of crap. I mean Half Life 2 and Doom 3? Those games suck! Counterstrike Source!? Blah! Oh yeah. Windows XP is the worst OS EVER! F.E.A.R.? Painkiller? Far Cry? Act of War: Direct Action? Man, what crappy games XP supports.[/Sarcasm]

I'm sorry, I couldn't help but criticize you for that incredibly false, uneducated statement.

Vista will have nothing to do with AI. Your OS does not determine the performance of AI in your games. You cannot hook in with Xbox Live and play with Halo 2 players on the console version. Vista has nothing to do with "combatibiltay" in gaming. I don't know a single game out there that supports compatible gameplay between two platforms. And once again, your OS has nothing to do with it.

From what you're saying, you're right, Vista is going to be great, but you believe so for all the wrong reasons. And XP is not crap.

And work on your grammar too.

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XP isn't great. An OS does have alot to do with how games play. Has alot to do with AI. An OS has to do with EVERYTHING you do. Its not just a fancy UI and some folders. It turns things you do into things your computer can understand. Those games are supported by XP because it would have been stupid to make them vista only, since vista isn't going to be released until late 2006. That argument has no validity.

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I own an HDTV [12/30/07]

You know it would be nice if bungie released Halo 2 for Windows 95, 98, XP, Vista, Linux and Mac. (jk Mac's suck!)

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  • 03.25.2006 8:48 AM PDT
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Posted by: WartHogRacerman3
You know it would be nice if bungie released Halo 2 for Windows 95, 98, XP, Vista, Linux and Mac. (jk Mac's suck!)


obviously you've never used a mac. both their architecture and their operating system are incredible.

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who says you have to be an ace to have fun?

Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
Stupid parents let their stupid children play games that are rated M when they should be playing Big Birds Spelling Adventures

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Also the AR is actually good in CQB now and no longer a glorified baseball bat.

Macs are pretty cool. I love the new mouse that has the buttons on the side that you squeeze to get a picture of everything you have open. Then you put the cursor on the item you want to go to, and squeeze the buttons again, and it takes you to it.

Anyway, if you still want to run XP(like I want to with MCE 2005), then dual boot.
Be warned, Vista can screw up XP though if you do dual boot.

  • 03.25.2006 11:22 AM PDT

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XP isn't great. An OS does have alot to do with how games play. Has alot to do with AI. An OS has to do with EVERYTHING you do. Its not just a fancy UI and some folders. It turns things you do into things your computer can understand. Those games are supported by XP because it would have been stupid to make them vista only, since vista isn't going to be released "early 2007". That argument has no validity.


Fixed.

Edit: to the above poster, how do you know that Vista would screw up XP in a DB config?

Is it because of the 'new file managemnt system'? Ya know, NTFS vs Super-NTFS ?

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i'de but vista and the game just for the map editor

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i think that they should make it for both, i mean capcom made res4 for gamecube then ps2 and it worked out fine. people can go out and but the new 500$ computer if they want to , but i am almost broke from buying my xp a couple of months ago and by the time i have the money to get vista there'll already be halo 3 on windows vista 2. who gives a -blam!- if it runs a little bit better on vista. and i dont have the money to go and buy an xbox, and with xbox 360 there arent going to be any more new games on xbox so its a waste of -blam!- money.
by the way red vs blue rocks!

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Posted by: Anton P Nym
who says you have to be an ace to have fun?

Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
Stupid parents let their stupid children play games that are rated M when they should be playing Big Birds Spelling Adventures

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Also the AR is actually good in CQB now and no longer a glorified baseball bat.

I don't know exactly what it screwed up, but I got a copy of Vista's beta from a friend who is at college, and when I tried dualbooting it, it screwed up some setting in my copy of MCE 2005, so randomly after being connected to the internet, XP froze.
I'm still trying to fix it after getting rid of Vista.

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Personally, I see no reason why any Xbox 1 game could ever claim to need the resources Vista is going to be using, stability or otherwise. On the other hand, DX10 (if it proves not to be reverse compatible with XP) does raise an eyebrow.

I’ll be waiting on Vista (still smells like ME to me) and by proxy, H2 will get to sit on the shelf just a little longer. But that’s not an M$ flame. That’s just common sense. Maybe, waiting as long as they have to release it, they'll have worked out some more of its bugs.

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Edit: to the above poster, how do you know that Vista would screw up XP in a DB config?

Is it because of the 'new file managemnt system'? Ya know, NTFS vs Super-NTFS ?


he's right. ive done it. it doesnt actually screw it up, but it creates complications at this point. vista's boot loader (as of the december CTP anyway... havent tried vista since) is a bit buggy, and doesnt go away after you uninstall vista. vista upgrades your ntfs version number above... 3.1 i think it is in xp... and so your file system, although still ntfs, doesnt register properly in some programs.

there were a few other glitches that i cant remember.

oh, and apparently DX10 is going to be much different than DX9... so there may be compatibility issues. and im pretty sure they are only going to make DX10 for vista. lets just wait and see tho.

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Macs are pretty cool. I love the new mouse that has the buttons on the side that you squeeze to get a picture of everything you have open. Then you put the cursor on the item you want to go to, and squeeze the buttons again, and it takes you to it.


wow... apple finally put more than one button on the mouse, and made a real out of the way method of pressing alt-tab. wohoo.

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The Xbox is a console. The programmers can optimize the hell out of their code because it is always going to be played on the same machine. You can't do that on a PC. Vista will be able to do alot more than an xbox, so it should be using more resourced.

I will not get vista right when it comes out. 6 months to a year after maybe, depending on the problems which will accompany its launch.

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  • 03.25.2006 4:15 PM PDT

halo 2 sold xboxs, halo 2 pc will sell vista...

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Posted by: brando_thegreat
halo 2 sold xboxs, halo 2 pc will sell vista...


...and they'll all come angrily flooding this forum with their complaints.

Oh, and caboose? do your reasearch before buying something computer-related. Whispers of MS's new OS Vista appeared at November of last year.

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Hey wait up. I'm getting Vista! Sah-weet.

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Its DX10.....thats why we need to upgrade.

lets not forget that:
Vista wont be backward compatible with other windows programs.
Why not? WinXP is backwards compatible with Windows 2000 and some Win98 programs.
it'll be buggy, and outdated when it comes out.True; which is why most people won't be buying it when it comes out. Most early Vistas will probably be sold in software Bundles with pre-made PCs (which won't help the OSes reputation.
no games support Vista.That should be Vista doesn't support games, which restates the first sentence. Certain older games will probably not run on Vista anymore, like Win98 games and maybe some older Win2000 games.
nor do any support DX10, look at project offset its running on windows XP pro, with a 7800GTX, and is on DX9, and the game is drop dead gorgeous.
forcing consumers to upgrade because they wont support XP anymore.

yea i think i got it all.
If DX10 cannot/does not run DX9 supported programs, then M$ loses money. The primary reason why people continue to purchase Windows over other systems is because its what they're used to. It works with the programs they have now and the programs they plan to purchase in the future. If that suddenly stopped happening many consumers would start looking elsewhere, toward more stable OS that could run the programs they want without buying thousands of dollars of software.

There is always a transition when Windows "upgrades". No program can adapt to all the changes. So your statements are true...but flawwed. Older programs will probably not run or be compatible with Vista, but that doesn't account for most people find online and in stores today...or a year ago. Put another way; if Vista only wrked with Vista programs, it would be a new version of the old Mac OS (and we all know how well that kind of marketting worked. Windows Mac anyone?)

Don't get me wrong; I still prescribe to the old saying "Windows is not a Virus. Viruses are small and efficient." But you've gotta give M$ credit where credit is due: they know their customers. They may spend as much money playing on their fears as they do acutally making an OS that "everyone" can use, but they know better than to make something that blatantly screws us over.

  • 03.26.2006 2:45 AM PDT

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What, like Marathon?

Heh, a Mac ---> Dos conversion


Hehe, "Bungee Software".

Windows 95 is DOS, right?

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XP isn't great. An OS does have alot to do with how games play. Has alot to do with AI. An OS has to do with EVERYTHING you do. Its not just a fancy UI and some folders. It turns things you do into things your computer can understand. Those games are supported by XP because it would have been stupid to make them vista only, since vista isn't going to be released until late 2006. That argument has no validity. When I said an OS has nothing to do with it, I didn't necessarily mean an OS does not have to do with gaming, I meant to say that you can't log in a game of H2PC online and play with people on the Xbox.

  • 03.26.2006 4:23 AM PDT
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Well, you might be able to, but I agree that that has nothing to do with the OS.

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Posted by: GoldenElite0
Yea it's is blatantly for that reason. I don't care what they wrote in the recent FAQ that's probebly the biggest load of bull I've ever seen. Halo 2 can work perfectly fine on windows XP. As in an example: Half life 2 uses XP and Halo 2 runs on the xbox equivalent....Vista Halo is a marketing target.

Like I said in another thread, this is a milestone down the road of corruption. How how long till Bungie produces a crappy game every 3 months? Here's hoping never.
Still Halo 2 vista will still be good at least, but I'm not paying cart loads of money for the OS.


I totally agree. Halo 2 should be released for XP and not for vista. If it means a few more weeks of work, go ahead! Don't make us pay $300+ for one game! Not many people have the CPU to handle vista. I know the computer I'm using can't handle vista. I don't have an xbox yet, and iv'e been going aroung searching for mods for halo pc that turns it into halo 2. They are all good, but not perfect. If Bungie really wants to make money, they should sell it for XP so everyone can buy it. This is ridiculous!

  • 03.26.2006 8:29 AM PDT