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Subject: Question: Is it Halo we love, or is it Bungie?

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Bungie is cool, they put a lot more effort into their games than most other developers out there. Not to mention they LISTEN to their fans. But Halo changed my life! It literally made me into the person I am today. The characters, story, music...all of it. WIthout it, I wouldn't be making my machinimas and I wouldn't be anywhere. I've loved every game put out, even Wars and ODST and ESPECIALLY Reach. I really enjoy the books and other media, too.

Halo is really a work of love and it's really sad about all the people who can't look past their hate and ignorance and understand what makes Halo so special. Every part of it.

  • 06.12.2011 6:18 PM PDT

Don't worry, you're still your mom's favorite Bnet member.

I love both Halo and Bungie in different ways.

  • 06.12.2011 6:33 PM PDT

Halo and Bungie both were big things in my life. I am very pumped for Halo 4, yet I find myself much more excited for Bungie's new universe. This brings me to beleive that it was thanks to Bungie that Halo was great.

Lets hope for the best, good luck Bungie!

  • 06.12.2011 7:17 PM PDT

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My name is Tyler. Computers and Video games is what I love to do.

I love Halo and Bungie.

  • 06.12.2011 7:24 PM PDT

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Why does it have to be one or the other?

  • 06.12.2011 7:30 PM PDT

343 has a terrible problem with continuity. According to them there are 5 variations of the exact same base mk V armor just because they cant keep their artists in check.

  • 06.12.2011 8:13 PM PDT

We can't love both? Which is the case for me, both are awesome. My love of Halo doesn't really need to be explained.

I love Bungie because they're the ones who created Halo in the first place and I think they're a really great company, they listen to the fans' feedback on the game and if it's something that can be changed and it'd make sense to then they'll try to make some changes, plus they've got a good sense of humor, I mean just listen to the dialogue in Halo going on during gameplay and all the easter eggs they've scattered around the games. And they really care about their stories, they give the appearance of not just being in it for themselves and the money, which is what really makes me love them, you can pretty much always expect a great game from them.

  • 06.13.2011 3:46 PM PDT
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We are all going to get banned aren't we?

Halo, couldn't care less about bungie.

  • 06.13.2011 3:49 PM PDT

Love Bungie, Nothing Else

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  • 06.13.2011 3:55 PM PDT
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Imagine a triangle. It's perfect, but a little plain. You take a chisel, and carve a small decorative symbol into it to make it a little more interesting. People like it, but it could use a little more.

So you then take a sledgehammer..


Posted by: ajw34307
I love Halo. I used to love Bungie for the massive involvement they had with the community, that was 3 years ago... After that they became pretty sterile to me. There was no genuine enthusiasm, since Reach was released everything has declined.

  • 06.13.2011 4:47 PM PDT

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Both.

Halo has an amazing universe which Bungie made, and Bungie has always and will contiue to interact with thier fans more than any other dev.

  • 06.13.2011 5:17 PM PDT

How strange it feels, Bungie and Halo have always been two separate entities. My love and affection must therefore be shared equally among both of them.

I love both, on an equal level.

  • 06.13.2011 5:45 PM PDT

If you don't got it, you want it. If you got it, you want more of it. Of course if you don't know what it is, it's hard to get any in the first place.

WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO MY PUMPKINS?

  • 06.13.2011 5:59 PM PDT
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Yes I'm fairly young. No, that doesn't mean I'm automatically dumber than you or have less life experience, thats just generally the case. I am not your general case.

I like Bungie. They made mistakes yes (Halo:Reach) but over all I like them a lot. I will miss them and doubt Halo will be the same without them. Halo...I love Halo. Period.

  • 06.13.2011 6:05 PM PDT

Welcome to bungie, you have no rights. play nice!
CLICK!

Even if it was halo, Bungie has nailed themselves down even deeper.
Bad Bungie.

  • 06.13.2011 6:07 PM PDT

"Team work is a part of playing the game, learn to use it."

I love both. <3

Halo for the hours of fun and challenging experinces.
And Bungie for their dedication to the series and birthing a great game to start them off, I look forward to the next game they give birth to along with the new universe.

  • 06.13.2011 6:18 PM PDT

Difficult question, for over a decade its been a case of halo IS bungie. Time will tell if bungie can move forward with a new franchise other than halo, personally i have every faith in it.

  • 06.13.2011 8:45 PM PDT

first off sorry for the horrible grammar anyways. I love Bungie for what they have made they have made a literal universe i mean i read the books i love it the story i make sure i look at every easter egg they put in the games look at all the terminals they made probably the most in depth game series iv ever seen. i started playing when i was 8 and have been a die hard fan now at 18 and i was so pumped for reach and it was fun as anything i loved it but it just seemed like the only thing it was about was multiplayer all everybody seemed too care about is what rank they are how many killionares and how many credits they get and i love the customizing as much as the next guy its so in depth but they just seemed too only care about multiplayer i mean theres just so much they could have done with the game that they left out seriously you cant even kill a scarab i loved doing that in halo 3 and the fact that on campaign once you get a silver commendation you cannot get credits anymore for that kind of kill or something is ridiculous some say cause of target locater exploits and other exploits but what about arcade fight unlimited lives and unlimited ammunition that's pretty much exploiting and it is very fun but still. i played the game on legendary all skulls on by myself including blind just too see if i could do it and i spent 1 hour and 25 minutes on one level got 356 kills and only got 200 credits.......while somebody could play multiplayer matchmaking for 5 minutes and get like 2000 easily. im so happy for 343 they are a company funded by microsoft but look at there name 343 guilty spark the whole company is focused on halo and what they are doing now looks amazing i would never think they would update halo CE and not alter anything just graphics same engine and everything im just saying im not every halo fan everybody has different likes but i fell in love with halo for the amazing story and characters that almost feel like a real person along with an ever expanding universe not how many kills i can get.

  • 07.15.2011 4:50 PM PDT
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I also do not understand the Reach hate. Yes Bungie could have made the game much better, but overall it was a huge upgrade over Halo 3.

As for the question I love everything about Halo and so I love Bungie, but lately I've stopped caring for Bungie probably due to them sliding out of the community. I'll see what their next project is, but I so far I doubt I do anything more with them.

I just hope Halo doesn't get milked anymore.

[Edited on 07.15.2011 6:02 PM PDT]

  • 07.15.2011 6:01 PM PDT

The bible is the best book Ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AM A PROUD CHRISTIAN. HALO IS AWESOME BUT GOD IS MUCH BETTER!!!!!!!!
Did you knew that JESUSdied for you?

I can't express how much I agree with you.Good post
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I don't understand how any of you are complaining about Halo: Reach, it was a fantastic game. Overall it was the best Halo.

Halo CE had Campaign
Halo 2 had Multiplayer
Halo 3 had forge
ODST had firefight

Reach had all of those in one package! Halo reach is not a middle finger to the face, that's just a terrible thing to say about a company who shared there passion for games with us. I am honestly shocked that people think Reach was so bad.

But an opinion is an opinion, can you all tell me just why you think Reach was so terrible?


Quantity =/= quality, that's the best way to put it.

The campaign was an abysmal effort to tie in the game to CE, it was not needed at all and was pulled off horribly. Levels were more linear than ever, the characters were sterile archetypes nobody cared about and there was no real story until the last 2 missions (can anyone say "shoehorn"?).

It's not just that, it's the way the story is told. Compare this fecal matter to the masterful campaigns of Halo CE, 2 and ODST. The build up is flawlessly drawn together to the final conclusion, here's Halo 2 as an example:
1) Earth is under attack, you follow the Prophet to another Halo.
2) You have been shamed for failing to save Halo, you earn your reprieve as Arbiter and become an assassin. You are told the Great Journey is a lie.
3) All story points converge on the Library. John and Thel meet the Gravemind and become allies to stop the Ring from firing after Johnson and Miranda are kidnapped.
4) Gravemind uses this as a distraction, he takes High Charity as his own whilst John follows Truth to Earth and the other Halos are put on stand-by. The tone that everything is at stake is set for the final installment as the fight is going to be finished.

We're left with questions like:
- What will happen to Cortana?
- Can Earth be saved?
- How will others respond to this "alliance"?
- Will Truth fire the other rings?

It's the sort of thing that sparked off thousands of fan fictions with each interpretation being wildly different. Reach lacked an substance or mystery to it because all along we knew what would happen. We knew Noble Team would die, we knew Reach would fall - the story is a lot less exciting when every detail is able to be guessed from the start.

Multiplayer is a convoluted mess with armour abilities which changed the "golden triangle" of grenades, weapons and melee into a sort of rusty tin quadrilateral. The rule of 3 was broken by armour abilities which were an awful addition, equipment was fine, I can't see what possessed Bungie to put in armour lock...

Firefight is now awful. In ODST we were made to work together, I have never played a more strategic match than my many attempts to get Endure from 2009-2010. It was frantic, it was fun and encouraged players to learn a lesson in teamwork when facing a group of Chieftains on Alpha Site.

In Reach all people care about is individual stats and credits, games are now an incoherent mess if jetpack + rockets with no consequence of failure when you die because you have infinite lives. Custom options? Yeah that's great, but I have not seen any innovative gametypes from the community. It's all "ZOMG EARN ACIEVEMENTS AND CR!!!".

Forge World is brilliant, well executed and great to use. As an avid Forger I'm very keen on using that map to it's fullest potential... Then I look at every other map and think "oh... I can't do anything cool or innovative here, back to Forge World". Halo 3 had a much more versatile Forge mode because every map had something unique that could be done to it, Bungie went slack with the maps in Reach and delivered poorly crafted campaign sections which play horribly (Boardwalk... *shudders*).

Whenever I look at Reach, I see what could have been and the fact that a lot of others share the same vision has left me feeling very underwhelmed by this "swan song" of Bungie's.


[Edited on 07.15.2011 6:56 PM PDT]

  • 07.15.2011 6:54 PM PDT

"Halo! Its divine wind will rush through the stars, propelling all who are worthy along the path to salvation."

Both. Bungie is one of the best companies I've ever seen. They still make their mistakes like Armor Lock and The Pillar of Autumn being ground side. Still, they created Halo, without Bungie there wouldn't be have been any Halo or an Xbox for that matter. Halo kept the Xbox alive long enough so other developers saw how cool their games can be in then new console, like Halo: CE. Now, Halo, its the first FPS or game in general that has hooked interest in me, like Return To Castle Wolfeinstein and Wolf 3D before it, I have a special place for Halo in my heart. Its still not the best game out there, I mean, no game is best. But, hell, it comes pretty darn close.

  • 07.15.2011 7:15 PM PDT

Ah, someone leaked. Now to find the leak and.... plug it.
With justice.

I use coup 5
Never Played halo 1 = Invalid opinion
Bloom isn't whats broken, its your idea of what good is and your opinion
Thats like saying uber nerf armor lock because like 20 percent of the community hates it. Oh wait..................

Actually I'm here For Bungie and halo but its Bungie I love

  • 07.15.2011 7:20 PM PDT

Expressing my strong liberal views without shame. Favorite quotes below:

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
"One starts to live when he can live outside himself."

- Albert Einstein

I love the Halo Universe, but my faith in Bungie has been dwindling ever since they haven't been frank with the fans who love the canon. They claim to have a "Halo Bible" which is 10 pounds, and yet we are the Universe forum can't even decide on major components of the canon like The Fall of Reach.

I'm disappointed in Bungie. I don't hold grudges, and I don't dislike them, but I am disappointed to say the very least.

  • 07.15.2011 8:49 PM PDT


Posted by: Plasma Prestige
I love the Halo Universe, but my faith in Bungie has been dwindling ever since they haven't been frank with the fans who love the canon. They claim to have a "Halo Bible" which is 10 pounds, and yet we are the Universe forum can't even decide on major components of the canon like The Fall of Reach.

I'm disappointed in Bungie. I don't hold grudges, and I don't dislike them, but I am disappointed to say the very least.


The problem over Reach lies mainly with the fans, Plasma, we haven't seen Halo Bible so we don't know what it contains or how exactly it links all the seemingly disconnected threads in Halo, we have only two choices, we can either take Bungie's word for it when they say everything fits or we can say that it's not true and they're pulling crap out of their ass. In any case, you'll always have fans who are displeased with current lore in Halo's universe and will try to find excuses or evidence to try and back up their claim. People have done this for Cryptum, with Reach, Legends, and the number of sources some fans claim conflicts with canon will only grow as time goes on.

  • 07.15.2011 10:02 PM PDT

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I <3 Halo, I <3 Bungie, and I'm pretty sure they <3 us.
Halo is like watching a movie, It feels like a movie.
It is one of a few games where the cutscenes are important, I always enjoy watching them everytime I play.
The innovations in every Halo game is what I like about it. Improving and adding onto the game.
Unfortunately Halo Reach did not impliment a real big change, but the polish of the game is enjoyable.

Hopefully 343 Industry will take their time to polish Halo 4 and make it good.
A rushed and unfinished game is felt easily by the players.
Take time and make it Great!

  • 07.15.2011 10:13 PM PDT

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