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Subject: Canon Halo Assault Rifle Changed?

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  • 06.11.2011 12:58 PM PDT

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I doubt anyone really cares. And it has 60 bullets anyway, it's staying true to the game it's meant to.

  • 06.11.2011 1:19 PM PDT

It's more bulky than the Reach AR, it's just supposed to represent the MA5B in updated graphics.

  • 06.11.2011 1:23 PM PDT
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The MA37 wasn't a prototype rifle; it was the standard infantry rifle of the UNSC Army. The appearance of it has since been retconned to be the appearance of the entire MA5 line.

  • 06.11.2011 2:51 PM PDT

If you're passionate about the thing you're talking about, I'll always lend an ear.

I'd rather just have an upgraded visual of the weapon, not another weapon in Reach that's just replaced it visually, not only that..
I liked the idea of Marines with Metal-style plating as well, it looks more practical in comparison to the current marine. But everything changes I guess. The old pistol looked better as well, it actually looks like it matched that power, the silver gleam. From what i saw in the CEA trailer it does take away from that.

[Edited on 06.11.2011 3:07 PM PDT]

  • 06.11.2011 3:06 PM PDT


Posted by: DorkLord54
The MA37 wasn't a prototype rifle; it was the standard infantry rifle of the UNSC Army. The appearance of it has since been retconned to be the appearance of the entire MA5 line.


I have never heard of that Retcon. The MA37 and MA5 series acted the same, but looked different and were in different groups. (Army and Marines).


Posted by: ninjakenzen
I'd rather just have an upgraded visual of the weapon, not another weapon in Reach that's just replaced it visually, not only that..
I liked the idea of Marines with Metal-style plating as well, it looks more practical in comparison to the current marine. But everything changes I guess. The old pistol looked better as well, it actually looks like it matched that power, the silver gleam. From what i saw in the CEA trailer it does take away from that.


The metal armor simply looked overly heavy and too bulky for me...

As for the pistol, M6D and M6G look nearly the same. Difference is M6D is not supposed to behave like an anti-everything pocket sniper rifle.

  • 06.11.2011 3:21 PM PDT
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Not another one of you... Oh noes the assault rifle has been upgraded now the game sucks.

Come on! STOP [REDACTED] bellyaching.

  • 06.11.2011 9:36 PM PDT
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it's a graphic change, nothing more, nothing less.

hell it could only be a straight up change becuase they reskinned everything using the halo reach engine, and they have yet to add in custom models for these things.

  • 06.11.2011 9:38 PM PDT
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Difference is M6D is not supposed to behave like an anti-everything pocket sniper rifle. Yes it is.

  • 06.11.2011 9:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sierra 1993DJC
Difference is M6D is not supposed to behave like an anti-everything pocket sniper rifle. Yes it is.


this might've been confusing, but i think he simply confused which pistol is which, the m6d is the halo ce era one, it's the m6g that's halo 3 and reach era.

  • 06.11.2011 10:06 PM PDT


Posted by: Atom Alchemist

Posted by: Sierra 1993DJC
Difference is M6D is not supposed to behave like an anti-everything pocket sniper rifle. Yes it is.


this might've been confusing, but i think he simply confused which pistol is which, the m6d is the halo ce era one, it's the m6g that's halo 3 and reach era.


Um, no I know which pistol is in which game.

And it's a fact, the pistol was not meant to be that powerful. Bungie forgot to tone it down.

Again, please show me ANY pistol which behaves like a long range rifle.

  • 06.11.2011 10:09 PM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Atom Alchemist

Posted by: Sierra 1993DJC
Difference is M6D is not supposed to behave like an anti-everything pocket sniper rifle. Yes it is.


this might've been confusing, but i think he simply confused which pistol is which, the m6d is the halo ce era one, it's the m6g that's halo 3 and reach era.


Um, no I know which pistol is in which game.

And it's a fact, the pistol was not meant to be that powerful. Bungie forgot to tone it down.

Again, please show me ANY pistol which behaves like a long range rifle.


And it can't be phallic.

  • 06.11.2011 10:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Atom Alchemist

Posted by: Sierra 1993DJC
Difference is M6D is not supposed to behave like an anti-everything pocket sniper rifle. Yes it is.


this might've been confusing, but i think he simply confused which pistol is which, the m6d is the halo ce era one, it's the m6g that's halo 3 and reach era.


Um, no I know which pistol is in which game.

And it's a fact, the pistol was not meant to be that powerful. Bungie forgot to tone it down.

Again, please show me ANY pistol which behaves like a long range rifle.


ok, but first you have to find me a pistol that is shooting esplosive bullets, like the m6 from ce, and halo3/reach does.

  • 06.12.2011 6:34 PM PDT
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When I think of the MA5B, I am still going to picture the original Halo Assault Rifle.

  • 06.12.2011 6:37 PM PDT


Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Not another one of you... Oh noes the assault rifle has been upgraded now the game sucks.

Come on! STOP [REDACTED] bellyaching.


Agreed. I am concerned about the canon issues with Halo 4, but I'm not freaking out about Anniversary. Yes, the MA5B looks like the MA37, and the Marines are now Army troopers, but I don't think it was out of being careless, I think they just wanted to give us Anniversary as soon as they could, so they used Reach game assets to do so.

  • 06.12.2011 6:42 PM PDT

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I personally think they should just enhance the details of the AR and the Marines BDU from Halo 3.
My question is:
Will Halo CE Anniversary really have 60 rounds mag for the AR like in the original game?
Will 343 add weapons from Halo 2? I mean BR and SMG?

  • 06.12.2011 6:42 PM PDT

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Look at it this way. The Pillar of Autumn left Reach with a supply of Assault Rifles that looked like the do in Halo: Reach. This was just the appearance of the rifle at this time. Somewhere between Halo: CE and Halo 2 (with ODST) the MA5 Assault Rifle series were given a more polished look, to what they are in Halo 3.

As for the M6-D, it can snipe, but it's nowhere near as accurate as a sniper rifle. First you have to really hit the target, and then the only thing that's a real one-shot-kill are Grunts with the off-chance headshot.

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  • 06.12.2011 6:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: CBT1979
I personally think they should just enhance the details of the AR and the Marines BDU from Halo 3.
My question is:
Will Halo CE Anniversary really have 60 rounds mag for the AR like in the original game?
Will 343 add weapons from Halo 2? I mean BR and SMG?


You can see in the trailer that it already has 60 rounds in a mag. And 343i already said the sandbox of weapons remains the same as it was back then, so no BRs, SMGs, DMRs, etc, etc.

  • 06.12.2011 6:46 PM PDT


Posted by: CBT1979
I personally think they should just enhance the details of the AR and the Marines BDU from Halo 3.
My question is:
Will Halo CE Anniversary really have 60 rounds mag for the AR like in the original game?
Will 343 add weapons from Halo 2? I mean BR and SMG?


Halo Anniversary campaign is built around the CE engine, so there will be no Halo 2 weapons. Only halo CE weapons. and from what I can tell, the AR does indeed have 60 rounds.

  • 06.12.2011 6:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: Thugzz Deluxxxe

Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Not another one of you... Oh noes the assault rifle has been upgraded now the game sucks.

Come on! STOP [REDACTED] bellyaching.


Agreed. I am concerned about the canon issues with Halo 4, but I'm not freaking out about Anniversary. Yes, the MA5B looks like the MA37, and the Marines are now Army troopers, but I don't think it was out of being careless, I think they just wanted to give us Anniversary as soon as they could, so they used Reach game assets to do so.
What are you on about? They've just updated the armour. The standard Marine armour and Army armour is the same. They are still Marines.

  • 06.12.2011 6:53 PM PDT

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I doubt anyone really cares. And it has 60 bullets anyway, it's staying true to the game it's meant to.

I care. That AR better be a placeholder.

  • 06.12.2011 7:02 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sierra 1993DJC

Posted by: Thugzz Deluxxxe

Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Not another one of you... Oh noes the assault rifle has been upgraded now the game sucks.

Come on! STOP [REDACTED] bellyaching.


Agreed. I am concerned about the canon issues with Halo 4, but I'm not freaking out about Anniversary. Yes, the MA5B looks like the MA37, and the Marines are now Army troopers, but I don't think it was out of being careless, I think they just wanted to give us Anniversary as soon as they could, so they used Reach game assets to do so.
What are you on about? They've just updated the armour. The standard Marine armour and Army armour is the same. They are still Marines.

Lol. Good one.

  • 06.12.2011 7:02 PM PDT

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Posted by: Thugzz Deluxxxe

Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Not another one of you... Oh noes the assault rifle has been upgraded now the game sucks.

Come on! STOP [REDACTED] bellyaching.


Agreed. I am concerned about the canon issues with Halo 4, but I'm not freaking out about Anniversary. Yes, the MA5B looks like the MA37, and the Marines are now Army troopers, but I don't think it was out of being careless, I think they just wanted to give us Anniversary as soon as they could, so they used Reach game assets to do so.

That is being careless. If their top priority is giving us a new Halo as soon as they can, they better start thinking about what they're deoing.

  • 06.12.2011 7:04 PM PDT

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Posted by: TheGreenAlloy
I care. That AR better be a placeholder.


Riddle me this then, Batman. If the Assault Rifle should look exactly as it did in Halo: CE/3, why then do the (assumed) Marines aboard the Pillar of Autumn at the end of "The Package" have the Halo: Reach Assault Rifles and armor? That would indicate that those specific models and gear are what the crew of the Autumn is equipped with. Aesthetically-wise, at any rate.

  • 06.12.2011 7:56 PM PDT

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  • 06.12.2011 8:02 PM PDT

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