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%%%%%%%%EVERYONE WHO DOES NOT LIKE H2PC ON VISTA LISTEN
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1) Vista is a necessary evil. YOU HAVE TO GET IT SOME TIME. Why? Because MS is banking all there money on this OS. You wont see another one for a long TIME. That means software will soon be for vista only like a lot of software is only for XP and not lower OS.


2) People who are in high school!!!!!!!!!!!! You get a student discount on any OS! Get vista while you still can!

3) Macs right now are no were near as POWERFULL as PC's. Macs however butcher PC's at media tasks like playing videos and creating games. (that’s why most game makers use apples.) PC's dominate when it comes to features, but because so many have them plus windows is so buggy, its not as secure. (VISTA will change that)

4) Most of you will have to buy a new computer because most computers can not run Vista, it requires a 64 bit processor. Most comps (like Intel) have 32 bit. >_<

5) Get with the wave. Its time to get a new, better OS, consider it a future investment. Your goanna have to get it some time, why wait it through?
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Hope that calms everyone down and make them think. LOL soon as halo 2 comes out, people will flock for it, don't worry bungie ;)

-Aktins Diet
PS: I have a $2000 Mac, and a $1500 pc. ;)


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  • 02.10.2006 8:57 PM PDT
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I just thought every1 would like 2 kno wut frankie's man-diaper was about. I am almost guaranteeing that the story outline he is speaking of is about the Arbiter. Wy would any1 use a man-diaper w/ an MC related topic after the awesomeness that is DOA4 and Nicole.

  • 02.10.2006 9:17 PM PDT

United States Army Aircraft Electrician, proudly serving my whacked country.

Mapmaking is something that we'd like to have fun with, and the trick is finding a balance between the super-easy Far Cry or Radiant (for Quake 3 or Doom 3) and the incredibly powerful (but occasionally tough) Unreal editor. We'll just have to see

I suggest something close to Unreal Editor. Ive used all three mentioned, and UED is by far, the best choice to base off of. What you can do with BSP, Static Meshes, Vehicles, Scripting, Emitters, Terrain (which is ALOT nicer than what you can do with any other game),etc, is incredible. I use Unreal Editor myself to make my own maps. I admit that yeah UED (short for Unreal Editor obviously) is scary when first using it, but after getting to know it, it is easy. I seriously suggest some based off of UED.

  • 02.10.2006 9:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: OutlawSkot33
Mapmaking is something that we'd like to have fun with, and the trick is finding a balance between the super-easy Far Cry or Radiant (for Quake 3 or Doom 3) and the incredibly powerful (but occasionally tough) Unreal editor. We'll just have to see

I suggest something close to Unreal Editor. Ive used all three mentioned, and UED is by far, the best choice to base off of. What you can do with BSP, Static Meshes, Vehicles, Scripting, Emitters, Terrain (which is ALOT nicer than what you can do with any other game),etc, is incredible. I use Unreal Editor myself to make my own maps. I admit that yeah UED (short for Unreal Editor obviously) is scary when first using it, but after getting to know it, it is easy. I seriously suggest some based off of UED.

THATS GREAT!- for advanced PC users who have made maps using UED.

But the avarge joe blow has little paience/time/ intellegence to use such a complicated editer. And UED could be so much more user friendly then it is right now, it just takes more scripting which would mean more time, so thats why they did not do that. I prefer an easy quick editer over a complicated one because of the usage of time. The best map editer for that would be FARCRY. It is quick easy, and gets to the point. But i do wish it had some more features. Bungie would be smart if they went in between far cry and a simpified version of UED. It is the best way to get to the general public, plus with speed= more time for tweaking and making it look even sweeter. Avg. person would get very tired and frustrated and not use UED to its full potential. Thus you would again want to a more advanced FARCRY editer.

BUNGIE!: Please do what FARCRY does in there map editer, which is instant "jump in the map mode" for testing. That would be the best. Just a thought. Thanks for reading this.

-Aktins Diet

  • 02.10.2006 10:42 PM PDT
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Pretty Cool... I;m so looking forward to the halo novels... i need a good read!!

  • 02.10.2006 10:49 PM PDT

I have a rendezvous with death. At some disputed barricade.

Dear "atkins diet"

if you think that pc's are more powerful than macs then thats your opinion. But wait! Lets step back here. Macs are MORE than 2x as powerful than a state of the art MS OS with all the addons for the comp you run it on. And do you know why? Its because Pc is behind the times. They are just relying on the die hard fans like your self and some of my friends that just cannot admit the mac is faster and the people who only by pc's for the games. Without these fans Microsoft would crash and burn. In the last quater alone mac sold more computers and made more money than microsoft. I bought a brand new g5 only 5 weeks ago and then 3 days later Mac announced that they were bringing out a new model that was twice as powerful as the one they released only a month ago! Now if microsoft is not going to realise a new OS for, in your words,"ages" and mac is over there bringing out a BRAND NEW COMPUTER THAT IS 2X AS FAST in just a month which would you buy??? As for actual statistics for all those computer nerds here is some COLD HARD EVIDENCE http://www.apple.com/ go there and read the first thing you see! You can follow the links to more infomation! so to all those who asy that macs are slower i have just proven you wrong. And if I am ever seen with an MSn operating system then may i be struck down by god. IN A WORLD WITHOUT DOORS OR WALLS THERE'S NO NEED FOR GATES OR WINDOWS!!!

  • 02.10.2006 10:52 PM PDT
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My stepdad already has Windows Vista. i can't wait for Halo 2 for Vista.

  • 02.10.2006 11:35 PM PDT
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For the mapmaker, it shouldn't be like Halo CE and HEK where people were doing WTH? stuff with that.

  • 02.10.2006 11:36 PM PDT
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Nah do something like "Hammer" from valve it is wonderfull as for vista LONG LIVE THE PENGUIN. Anyway even though i use windows and have a beta for Vista and i dont even use linux <--- whats with that

Anyway Forget wat i just said
Vista will be really good for me programming (go C# thx M$ for making it i luv u)
.NET is wonderful and is gunna be the future for Web apps and games and any sort of app.

Microsoft, keep up the good work.
As for Bill Gates, thats another day

  • 02.10.2006 11:54 PM PDT
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Posted by: SNIP3RS R UZ
Dear "atkins diet"

if you think that pc's are more powerful than macs then thats your opinion. But wait! Lets step back here. Macs are MORE than 2x as powerful than a state of the art MS OS with all the addons for the comp you run it on. And do you know why? Its because Pc is behind the times. They are just relying on the die hard fans like your self and some of my friends that just cannot admit the mac is faster and the people who only by pc's for the games. Without these fans Microsoft would crash and burn. In the last quater alone mac sold more computers and made more money than microsoft. I bought a brand new g5 only 5 weeks ago and then 3 days later Mac announced that they were bringing out a new model that was twice as powerful as the one they released only a month ago! Now if microsoft is not going to realise a new OS for, in your words,"ages" and mac is over there bringing out a BRAND NEW COMPUTER THAT IS 2X AS FAST in just a month which would you buy??? As for actual statistics for all those computer nerds here is some COLD HARD EVIDENCE http://www.apple.com/ go there and read the first thing you see! You can follow the links to more infomation! so to all those who asy that macs are slower i have just proven you wrong. And if I am ever seen with an MSn operating system then may i be struck down by god. IN A WORLD WITHOUT DOORS OR WALLS THERE'S NO NEED FOR GATES OR WINDOWS!!!

I am no fan of Windows. I think it was awful what Bill did. He made old software tec, and just upgraded it a lil everytime with bugs so people would keep upgrading. However, macs processor wise and stats wise is much less powerful vrs PC. Also, The overall pc market sold way more then apple's macs did. Mac however is selling at a higher and higher rate, due largly with its sucsess from the ipod. I think If we could combine the look of the mac, and its shere power in media and gameing programing, along with the amount of features that windows does have (tons of features with tons of bugs ;) ) and its power, then we would have the best computer. Thats why i own both. I make maps and listen to music and watch videos on my mac, and play games, surf the internet, and preform high processing tasks on the pc. I have all my specal files on the mac, cause not as many people are on macs, there for it does not have as many virus's it can get, but also because it is more sucure. I build macs and PCs, and PC's are still top dog. But at last apple is catching up again, and with there new OS, it is worlds better then it once was. But alas, the PC overall is better for tasks like gaming, etc. As of now, PC's rule the roost, But i have a funny feeling that will soon change....
-Aktins Diet

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  • 02.10.2006 11:57 PM PDT
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3) Macs right now are no were near as POWERFULL as PC's. Macs however butcher PC's at media tasks like playing videos and creating games. (that’s why most game makers use apples.) PC's dominate when it comes to features, but because so many have them plus windows is so buggy, its not as secure. (VISTA will change that)

Thats is wrong My quad G5 mac is one of the best one on the market, heres it specs and tell me if you think that macs are behind 12.2 gigs of ram, 2 terrbite hard drive (2000 gigs) and a $3000 graphics chip card and i dont wish to bore you any more you get the picture, bungie should create a port for mac.

  • 02.11.2006 12:55 AM PDT
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opps posted 2 times

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  • 02.11.2006 12:59 AM PDT
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Which every one believes you have, considering the price of teh computer versus your most likely age of 12-17.

  • 02.11.2006 1:13 AM PDT
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cool the new update sounds great ;)

  • 02.11.2006 1:17 AM PDT
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and the pic of the master chif why did u master chif head on a man how is nackied???

  • 02.11.2006 1:19 AM PDT
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Posted by: Aktins_Diet
1) Vista is a necessary evil. YOU HAVE TO GET IT SOME TIME. Why? Because MS is banking all there money on this OS. You wont see another one for a long TIME. That means software will soon be for vista only like a lot of software is only for XP and not lower OS.


Why *must* you get it some time? There are other operating systems (Linux) that are alot more secure and stable than windows while having more features and free software.
As for software being vista only - most new software still works on Windows 2000 and some of it even still works on Windows 98/ME. It will be a long time until all software is written for vista only.


2) People who are in high school!!!!!!!!!!!! You get a student discount on any OS! Get vista while you still can!


The software still costs money. Considering that there are no new features in vista that are worth the money Microsoft will charge student discounts are quite pointless.


3) Macs right now are no were near as POWERFULL as PC's. Macs however butcher PC's at media tasks like playing videos and creating games. (that’s why most game makers use apples.) PC's dominate when it comes to features, but because so many have them plus windows is so buggy, its not as secure. (VISTA will change that)

Actualy, MacOS X, UNIX and Linux all have more features than windows and yet they are all more secure than windows too. Microsoft has been saying that their next OS will be so much more secure for years but its never happened. XP is no more secure than win2k. Win2k is no more secure than NT4. If you believe that VISTA will fix all of microsofts security problems you are very naive.


4) Most of you will have to buy a new computer because most computers can not run Vista, it requires a 64 bit processor. Most comps (like Intel) have 32 bit. >_<

Vista will run on the IA32 platform which includes all modern 32bit Intel and AMD processors (Older IA32 chips like the i386/i486/i586 wont be supported)


5) Get with the wave. Its time to get a new, better OS, consider it a future investment. Your goanna have to get it some time, why wait it through?

I fully agree - but vista isnt the better OS. It is just XP in a new box with a few more "features" that can easily be added to XP by downloading a few things from the net. VISTA certainly isnt an investment either, esp if you buy OEM.


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  • 02.11.2006 2:15 AM PDT
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I am going to make the best map ever, ...

  • 02.11.2006 3:39 AM PDT

Halo 3 (31st), ODST (14th) and Reach (4th) Mythic Conqueror. (Mythic is Solo, Legendary, All skulls on + scoring on and no deaths/saves).

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Ignorance is the true enemy of all things.

Rocking Bungie.net for over 8 years!

Why can't people realise that IF you REALLY want to play Halo 2 you CAN for less than £100. In fact. Let me go find exact prices for you....

new copy of Halo 2: £9.99 http://www.play.com/play247.asp?pa=stts1&page=title&r =XBOX&title=115380
Brand new Xbox: £79.99 http://www.play.com/play247.asp?pa=sr&page=title&r=XB OX&title=107591
Total: £89.98

And used and second hand copies and hardware is even cheaper. Don't get yourself in a tizzy.

The Halo 2 PC for Vista is JUST and SOLELY for those really hardcore Fans that must own EVERY version of the game or MUST make new maps OR for those PC gamers that are going to update to vista anyway and might be interested playing halo 2 on thier home platform. CHILL.

And like. Halo and Halo 2 weren't used by MS to sell the Xbox? Pffft. wake up.

Nice update. I may just have to get all the books sometime.

  • 02.11.2006 3:59 AM PDT
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If you could provide honest answers to the following that are not buried in a heap of marketing department BS, ("I don't know" is preferable to "we have made no announcements on... whatever... at this time") I would be very grateful.

1. What prevents the game from running on XP?

2. What prevents you from developing a version for XP and a version for Vista or a version compatible with both?

3. What specifically about Vista will improve H2 on the PC as opposed to XP?

4. Are you allowed to, on this site, give your own opinions on the XP vs Vista decision independent of the views of Microsoft Corporation?

5. Does Vista really cost more than $400?

6. Does Bungie have a choice in the matter?

7. Is work on ONP and the Vista port occurring simultaneously, and if so, do you think this implies the port is not as time consuming as ONP, and if so, do you think that it would be possible to invest enough time and resources to develop an XP port as well?

If you don't know, say so, if you aren't allowed to say, say so, but please respect us enough to not decorate your answers with all sorts of crap. You don't need to start every sentence with "in order to provide you with the highest quality gaming experience" That is already implied if that is what you are doing, and if you have to say it, it suggests that a higher quality gaming experience is not your actual goal. Be real please.

  • 02.11.2006 5:10 AM PDT
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Posted by: RC Master
Why can't people realise that IF you REALLY want to play Halo 2 you CAN for less than £100. In fact. Let me go find exact prices for you....



Why would I want an Xbox for a single game that I need to pay for additional subscriptions just to play with friends? Its expensive enough to keep a PC up to date as it is without being forced to buy a new OS not to mention the sheer nightmare of having to backup all work on the current pc and get everything to work in Vista...

We are talking about hundreds of gigs thats needs to be organized and moved between OS's, some of us actually do use our computers for more than gaming.

Vista only, is something thats pretty much expected by Microsoft to pull, but that Bungie would cave as easily to such a foolish buisness proposal of limiting Halo2 to Vista only.

Due tell how Bungie could possibly financially gain by making Halo2 catered to such a limited minority like only Vista users considering Halo2 is already outdated on the gaming market by two years and the initial sale boom has been depleted on the Console market...

Its ritual suicide even attempting such an unstable endevour and all it does is kills of the possibilities of future PC releases from the Halo franchise's due to lack of sales.

  • 02.11.2006 5:12 AM PDT
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cool, i cant wait

  • 02.11.2006 5:43 AM PDT
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adolf hitler?
lol

  • 02.11.2006 6:23 AM PDT
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Posted by: Frankie, the Content Monkey of Awesomeness
We tried to help and Eric said all my suggestions were "interesting." I am glad he appreciated these gems and look forward to seeing which one he for sure picks:

* Attack of Awesome
* Superalien Space Horrorfiends
* Oh Teh Noes!!117
* Galaxy Rawk
* Project Awesome
* Fangtasm!
* March of the Intellibots

I have to say that Shishka's "Master Chief and the Dark Secret of Space" fills me with shivery excitement too.

AND I just saw another novel outline, from a yet-to-be-revealed author (think Joyce, Tolkien, Homer), so awesome and secret that I had to wear a diaper to read it. A man-diaper.

Now that sounds more like Frankie. It's good to see him out of that "Evil Lawyer of Death" mode that had so consumed him in the last update.

  • 02.11.2006 6:28 AM PDT
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dude is that master chiefs head replacing jesuses head?

  • 02.11.2006 6:29 AM PDT