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ill more than likely get halo for vista, because i am already getting vista for free(no comment), so it will not be much of a problem, as far as money, but i wonder how much the game will cost? if they are using it on a more advanced OS than they will more than likely raise the price on pc games. Just look at the XBOX 360, the games on it are more expensive, because the hardware itself is more expensive. If halo 2 for Vista is going to be more than 50 bucks, than i am not even going to bother buying it(until the price goes down, that is).

  • 02.12.2006 11:27 AM PDT
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I think that everyone will wait until the price goes down ...

  • 02.12.2006 11:52 AM PDT
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Dude, edit your post... and alot of people will get it when prices go down, just wait n see...

  • 02.12.2006 12:00 PM PDT
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Posted by: Master Zenek
Hey, Atkins! This one's for you. :)

Now, being a Gamer, (specifically for the console side), I know that a certain amount of K@$H must be set aside for hardware and software. Myself, I wait the 3-4 years between consoles to buy them. Saved a ton for the 360 myself! Also, not to brag, but I have great taste in games, only buying one or two stinkers for my 'ol BOX. MY POINT was not to scramble like mad-men to the Comp-USA or whatever, to pay out the wazoo for a next gen computer system to play an X-BOX game with some (cool) bells and whistles, unless you've got the money and want it BAD.

Now, about your dividing the world into classes bit... Yes. Most of the world doesn't have the financial oppertunites that Americans have. I'm aware that 99.9% of Ethiopia, Guatemalla, and Haiti won't be buying Vista anytime soon. If I were rich, I wouldn't be working at a department store this afternoon, and I've bills and crap to pay off too mate! Men's dept...it beats shoes, but YUK! Anyhoo, You can't judge people by how fat a wallet they have, or doesn't have. But I can tell you: If someone is living pay check to paycheck, then I don't think that they should invest in a new expensive PC at that point in time, nor would they probably have the high-speed internet connection needed to play online. Maybe not the extra funds for the game its self... You never know.

Three things before I jet:
1) Don't put people into "classes" that in its self divides people and makes its own problems. People have more or less money for an infinate amount of reasons.
2) Don't turn this thing into a Red vs. Blue (state) thing. I mean that...
3) Companies make money. They MUST if they want to remain a company. You know... selling quality stuff to people, to make jobs... fuel the economy....

I don't see people by their economic status by the way. I just see people. Stank, ugly, strange humans... ;)

-Zenek


Thank you for replying! Sorry that I put you in a category. But what Human does not? The truth of the matter is that there is classes in this world. And the saddest thing of all is that being in a certain class, people often forget what the other “class” is going through. America everyday is having a larger and larger separation between poor and rich classes, as there are less jobs for people to get. (to many people, to little jobs, and a recessive economy means lay-offs.) So paint a picture were there is no classes is like looking through rose tinted glasses. Its like saying there is no racism in this world. (Which sadly there is in all colors and shades.)
Now to what you do….
That’s great! Good to see you in with the rest of the world working and making a living, and I do wish the best for you. Sorry that I may have judged you by what you say, but as you know first impressions is the most impacting event when forming (especially over the internet) an opinion of someone and how they think and live. My sincere apologies for that. I would hope however that you could see where I came from when I fried that back at you. After all, I can see where the other people are coming from. Also, some people who live by paycheck by paycheck aren’t the smartest people with money, and often want something and will try to buy it, but if it is so far out of there reach and they love it so much, it can be depressing. You also have to consider the teens and kids who have a hard time making $500 bucks with school and life. You have the luxury of working 8 hours a day; they can only do 2-4 while still breathing in school. (Also collage kids to, almost forgot them!)

Three things before I move on:

1) Some people are born into this world being poor and having limited abilities because of there environment. The “rags to riches” story is a very unlikely scenario for the average person. I am pretty well off, and to see people go through trying times and not help my troubled “brother” is inhuman, and immoral. Because we humans have the power to change the world on an individual level, I think it is important to make it my business, as a human being, and a person of faith. Would god let someone who is kind or struggling sit there on a log?

2) I think your right about this. Sorry for bringing that into the conversation. I will try to look out for more of that.

3) Lets say that I have a great connection with some business . I can assure you that they make plenty of money, and that all they want to do is see how far they can go to make the most money- regardless of what may happen. If you could pay for something 30% cheaper would you, still knowing that companies would make 80-100% profit? Dumb question, because we all know the answer. My problem is that companies are forgetting the people below them in the economic world, and are quiet often forgetting what we need to do has humans. $ is to strong for them.

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Posted by: Aktins_Diet
I totally agree with you that MS is forgetting who put them on the map. But what company has not forgotten its people? As it is right now, all the major ISP’s like version and Comcast are setting up a plan together in a small room on how there goanna totally control the internet. Were you have to pay to download a certain amount of flies or stream only so much. They did it with Cell Phones. Some day the internet will not be free. It also gives advertisements more control on who to target, and thus companies get more $. Welcome to Corporate America were Capitalism rules.


They may be trying to do this but it will never take effect. As things become cheaper and easier to implement more people are going to expect cheaper and hassle free service.

Verizon and Comcast don't own the internet or the hardware used to run it. They may own a portion of the hadware but don't own it all. I can assure you that if this is tried it will not work. Everyone is happy with the current system of a flat monthly rate. THe only way this could be implemented successfully is if they did a system where you get a flat monthly rate or pay by bandwidth consumption, so you have a choice. This would only benefit people who don't use the internet alot but want the high speed.


That’s great for those who don’t use it that much, but realize this, Most people use the internet on a day to day basis. Companies still make money with people having an unlimited amount of bandwidth. And you can’t tell me that and empire does not want to buy a cake and eat it to. :) Of course companies want to control and make money as much as possible. And just a couple of months ago, Version and other companies where trying to soften some laws to make it possible. You see, as a company, they want to extend there reach. Again, what big corporation would not want to do this, if you can? $$$$=power=control. You cant tell me that does not exist in the business world. There should be no hassle fees. You and I both know that that is placed in an attempt to make more money. Funny thing is people actually still pay for it instead of stop paying and make a protest.
There will be a choice, flat monthly rate (you cant download as much) or service packs where you have to pay more to have so much bandwidth/ unlimited. If you were in charge and could make billions more every year, would you?

-Aktins Diet


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  • 02.12.2006 12:37 PM PDT
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So yea, out here in Germany its next to impossible to get an american 360 so I guess I'll work on that before I worry too much about Halo 2 for PC, hopefully a NEW Bungie game will come out first anyway. (we can dream can't we?)

  • 02.12.2006 1:01 PM PDT
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Posted by: SPARTAN 685
So yea, out here in Germany its next to impossible to get an american 360 so I guess I'll work on that before I worry too much about Halo 2 for PC, hopefully a NEW Bungie game will come out first anyway. (we can dream can't we?)

Ebay can help you. Also will any german stores let you get a rain check?

(gotta love the internet, where you can talk to anyone in the world! ^^) )

If i new you better i would get you a 360 and ship it over to you.

THATS WHAT BUNGIE COULD DO!
Sell 360's at there store. Then people like you could get a 360, and Bungie could make money still!

  • 02.12.2006 1:10 PM PDT
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like those beer commercials
brilliant!

  • 02.12.2006 1:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: MorKon
like those beer commercials
brilliant!

lol yes deffently! :)

  • 02.12.2006 1:37 PM PDT
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what very awful master chief? master chief is not awful!

  • 02.12.2006 3:45 PM PDT
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I am afraid he is Peter. >_<

  • 02.12.2006 4:18 PM PDT
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I hope Bungie is working on a new game, hopefully not another alien shoot em up. Maybe some crazy space age racing game......

  • 02.12.2006 5:01 PM PDT
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Halo 2 for Vista and not XP. I know Vista's more powerful and that I understand but I still feel let down :(

  • 02.12.2006 6:37 PM PDT
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well, first of all, all this drama over halo 2 for the PC, WHO CARES!!! i mean, i know its clear that its obviously somewhat of a marketing relationship meant to rip us off for more money, but theres TONS of that everywhere you look, all the subliminal advertisements, business parterships and other economic riff raff, thats life. If someone really wants it, theyll buy it, if they cant afford it, too bad, i dont mean to sound cold, but life isnt about video games and software upgrades anyway, its only a game, its no big deal. (ok ok, it is a huge deal to some people (including me) but still, im more focused on their "new project," ive already played halo 2 ever since it came out and still do)

Secondly, thank god for the new novel, i heard a lot of ors that they werent making any more, and if they were, nylund wasnt going to have anything to do with them. But now i find out that he is making more, and im overjoyed, he is one of the best authors i know, not because of halo, but all his writing, i have read 4 of his books OTHER than the halo novels, he is a gifted writer and an inspiration

and finally, on the mister chief... i just dont know what to say. i dont know if i feel good or bad about it, its just a feeling...

  • 02.12.2006 7:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: sargeant kozi
and finally, on the mister chief... i just dont know what to say. i dont know if i feel good or bad about it, its just a feeling...


Please don't come out of the closet on these forms.Do it at home.

  • 02.12.2006 7:46 PM PDT
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what's gonna happen with this mess is that people are vengeafull and do not forget and might just boycott the game altogether since there is a xbox version of it....

also people just out of spite may try to get the game thru illegal means therefore bungie ends up on the losing end...

i wonder why they stay silent on this tough....95 percent of the messages here are bashing them real bad on this mess...

looks like they jsut don't care or they are scrambling to talk to microsoft to find a solution on this and then make the announcement....

bungie is trying to play a high stakes game here and cockiness may end up being their ultimate demise...

remember there are tons of games out there and tons more coming out that are gonna be the next "halo" type of situation like gears of wars and such so you don't want to put the barrel to your head and shoot yourself.... write to pc gamer and computer gaming world about this and try to lobby to them so that they can make this known..."how upset we are!!!!"

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  • 02.12.2006 8:55 PM PDT
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Just so that you waanna see a good game go to this link..

http://xboxmovies.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/2898/Far-Cry-Instinct s-PREDATOR-Xbox-360-vs-PC-Water-Comparison/

that is why i was saying that there are better stuff coming out there..better than halo..so you don't wanna lose the loyal fanbase that you have with stupid trix like this crap that is going on....

if you would be completely brand new to the game thing and you would see a demo of halo 2 and the predator demo i think the choice would be clear on what the kid would chose...



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  • 02.12.2006 9:04 PM PDT
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well maybe u wont but ill mostlikely be outta halo by 2010 gezz thats a long time

  • 02.12.2006 9:19 PM PDT
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B O R I N G

once again

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Just anounce your next game... whatever it is.

Losing interest rappidly.

  • 02.13.2006 4:57 AM PDT