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Subject: This is a great time to be a Halo fan my fellow Spartans
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I agree it is a good time indeed to become a fan. I've played and beaten every game on the very first day they came out with it and i have even read the books but up until Tuesday or so did i really care about the story line as much b/c.. it was just a story. All I ever noticed is that after Halo 3 was released I was like, "7 halos, the Ark, the Flood, what is this? Noah's Ark?" I decided to google "Master Chief" just b/c some douche on my facebook was posting about how "if i was master chief.." I guess you can say curiosity struck me when i found details that i didn't remember in the books or game.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_Chief_(Halo)

You'll notice by reading the summary of the storyline or canon, if you will, that there are named hyperlinks (in blue ofc) and basically it's so you can get more info and not get confused. For example if you didn't know who the Forerunners were, you would just click it and usually it would be in blue like it is here. I kinda realized after a while that just about EVERY single other site i was sent to, to find out more information of course, just had more pieces to what seemed like an endless puzzle.

Basically what i'm saying is i became probably one of the biggest fans of halo over a whole night of not sleeping and clicking and reading and clicking and reading.. the canon was just so intense! I never realized that there was SO MUCH i didn't know. And everything in wiki seemed to highlight and/or summarize all of the important or "need to know" info in it so it didn't seem that it was too important to actually read every book, i assumed this b/c after what i read, it seemed like i didn't even have to play the game!! Anything i KNEW was important in the game for me to understand the canon seemed to already be summarized!

Plus, all of these unexplained errors are all found on wiki and/or halo nation. Some contradictions are even explain, like when i was reading about some of the spartans it says right in the wiki or halo nation description that they died but THEY ACTUALLY were either restationed or secretly moved to another mission or etc..

If you REALLY wanna be a hardcore fan just do what i did, i'm not saying spend hours without sleep doing what i did just leave a bookmark or something. I have the Opera browser in my comp so i like using their speed dial as bookmarks and now you can use as many speed dial windows as you want!


Here are a few sites i ran into that got me digging deeper.

On the 3rd page of this forum site, this guy says something about Ceo of bungie saying that Master Chief is in fact Marathon man, which OPENED but did not alter my thoughts about the storyline and future of the Halo series.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/25953890/marathon-halo-r elation?page=1

I found this one in that forum site that i posted right above this, and if you're familiar with marathon and remember it and have played the halo trilogy as well, i suggest you read the whole thing, every minute or so that i read got more and more interesting. Don't think of it as MC=MM just think of reincarnation or something.

http://marathon.bungie.org/story/you.html

If you don't already know who Adjutant Reflex is, i highly recommend that you read this. If you believe in any way like I do that Bungie likes to keep secrets or like to give clues without admitting it...this is one of their best examples.

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Adjutant_Reflex

I have reason to believe that this is in fact.. Marathon Man.

http://marathongame.wikia.com/wiki/Mjolnir_Recon_number_54

This is one of the newest hyperlinks i ran into while i was "researching" the canon of the bungie universe. If you read, it gives "theories" which we all recognize as clues by bungie, if you remember back before halo 2 and 3 and reach came out the wiki or halo nation would describe "theories" that would later come to be part of the canon. But also keep in mind that not EVERY "theory" was turned into canon and they may have been written by fans.

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Unidentified_planet_(Halo_3)

Keep in mind, in the United states you are guilty until proven innocent.
In the Bungie Universe it works that way with all theories as they are not fact until proven so. Just b/c a Bungie representative SAYS it's not true doesn't mean crap and they have proven this in the past.. just be patient.. we will all know the truth soon enough.

Unless of course you have cancer or AIDS or something.. then i highly recommend that you write a letter.

  • 06.12.2011 6:35 AM PDT
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  • 06.12.2011 6:48 AM PDT

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This site is better than wikipedia
Back to topic. I had the same experience as op a couple of years ago. Bungie did an awesome job creating the halo universe

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@ZedFish, Yea, b/c i stated above that i beat all of the games and read all of the books in a single day before i decided to go on my researching adventure.


Posted by: Spartan 2104
This site is better than wikipedia
Back to topic. I had the same experience as op a couple of years ago. Bungie did an awesome job creating the halo universe


I'm sorry, i forgot to add Halopedia in the thread, i did in fact run into that site plenty of times, for some reason i confused it with Halo Nation b/c the sites look similar in backround. Thank you for adding that for our future "researchers".

  • 06.12.2011 6:58 AM PDT
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Woah, all the hostility. Accept your props, boy. When someone gives you kudos, its best to go along with it.

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[Edited on 06.12.2011 7:01 AM PDT]

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Posted by: ZedFish
Woah, all the hostility. Accept your props, boy. When someone gives you kudos, its best to go along with it.

:P


I'm sorry :/ i thought you were being sarcastic.
But if you were.. shame on you xP

  • 06.12.2011 7:14 AM PDT
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No, I once went through the same research, just not in one night.

Granted, that was not long after I got into Halo, but then I got stuck into reading books, paying more attention to the campaigns, and whatnot. Now, I'd say that research accounts for only 5% of my Halo knowledge.

  • 06.12.2011 7:27 AM PDT
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I totally just accidentally "reported" your post.. sorry it's morning and the report button was right next to reply...

anyways..
Posted by: ZedFish
No, I once went through the same research, just not in one night.

Granted, that was not long after I got into Halo, but then I got stuck into reading books, paying more attention to the campaigns, and whatnot. Now, I'd say that research accounts for only 5% of my Halo knowledge.


when you say 5%, are you saying you only know about 5% of the whole story or.. O.o

  • 06.12.2011 8:32 AM PDT

"Find where the liar hides, so that I may place my boot between his gums!" - Rtas 'Vadum

Halo Nation is the worst game wikis I have ever seen. Things such as basic grammar have been lacking in certain places, to say nothing about the truth of the actual information there. Halopedia is slightly better but I have seen instances of pure speculation getting into articles and even statements being sourced incorrectly.

As for theories, your idea is nothing until it has stood up to the evidence. However it is done so by trying to disprove it and shoot holes through it. If it stands up to that then you can consider it a theory but it is not "proven" until what you predict comes to actually pass. In your case, a Bungie representative disproving your theory would be your worst case scenario and it certainly does not mean "crap".

Yet again I don't see what the point of this thread is, other than a blog. Read (Or skim) these and see what a proper "theory" should look like:

The Precursor, The Flood, and the Acceleration of Evolution (V2)

Halo 4, In plain sight. V 1.5 Origins update

Humanity are not Forerunners, but in fact Precursors?

Mendicant Bias and the Great Intragalactic Scavenger Hunt

Those were probably he best ones I have seen. (Even though some may have been disproven now they are still examples of what to aim for) They have a structured argument that flows logically from one point to the next that always relates to the main point; they are not fractured. There is sufficient reasoning and evidence given for all points made and all of that is contained within the thread. There is no heavy reliance upon links to other threads/sites. Most importantly, the relevant pieces of evidence are extracted (From actual sources and not vague, unverifyable "A guy at Bungie said this") and put into the thread so that the reader does not have to sift through pages and pages of irrelevant crap. It is not the job of the reader to find your evidence, it is yours. Oh and Halopedia/Halo Nation is about the worst thing you can use for evidence.

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  • 06.12.2011 10:07 AM PDT
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Posted by: anton1792
Halo Nation is the worst game wikis I have ever seen. Things such as basic grammar have been lacking in certain places, to say nothing about the truth of the actual information there. Halopedia is slightly better but I have seen instances of pure speculation getting into articles and even statements being sourced incorrectly.

As for theories, your idea is nothing until it has stood up to the evidence. However it is done so by trying to disprove it and shoot holes through it. If it stands up to that then you can consider it a theory but it is not "proven" until what you predict comes to actually pass. In your case, a Bungie representative disproving your theory would be your worst case scenario and it certainly does not mean "crap".

Yet again I don't see what the point of this thread is, other than a blog. Read (Or skim) these and see what a proper "theory" should look like:

The Precursor, The Flood, and the Acceleration of Evolution (V2)

Halo 4, In plain sight. V 1.5 Origins update

Humanity are not Forerunners, but in fact Precursors?

Mendicant Bias and the Great Intragalactic Scavenger Hunt

Those were probably he best ones I have seen. (Even though some may have been disproven now they are still examples of what to aim for) They have a structured argument that flows logically from one point to the next that always relates to the main point; they are not fractured. There is sufficient reasoning and evidence given for all points made and all of that is contained within the thread. There is no heavy reliance upon links to other threads/sites. Most importantly, the relevant pieces of evidence are extracted (From actual sources and not vague, unverifyable "A guy at Bungie said this") and put into the thread so that the reader does not have to sift through pages and pages of irrelevant crap. It is not the job of the reader to find your evidence, it is yours. Oh and Halopedia/Halo Nation is about the worst thing you can use for evidence.


You must not have read the end where i said nothing is true until proven otherwise. All you can do is prove something to be un-true and if you can't do that.. just wait. I didn't state any theories in this did i? All i was trying to say is that this is a great time to be a fan and research and read the canon.

And all of those links you posted.. for the past couple of days ive been posting threads and replies stating everything that that guys said, from gravemind being a living AI ro humans being precursors instead of forerunner. You sire actually just made me really happy b/c i feel like you just posted my best argument for my "theories" xD

Thank you sir, you also just gave more "research" for our fellow spartans :)

  • 06.12.2011 10:09 AM PDT

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Posted by: Monitor117
I didn't state any theories in this did i?

From your own OP:

Don't think of it as MC=MM just think of reincarnation or something.
I have reason to believe that this [Adjutant reflex] is in fact.. Marathon Man.

Posted by: Monitor117
And all of those links you posted.. for the past couple of days ive been posting threads and replies stating everything that that guys said, from gravemind being a living AI ro humans being precursors instead of forerunner.

Posting threads and replies with no evidence to back them up. Also, Humans are not Precursors. Cryptum explicitly proved that wrong. That is why I said some of them were proven wrong but are nonetheless great examples.

  • 06.12.2011 10:58 AM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Unless you've actually read the books, why should anyone give you the time of day? Wiki sites are notoriously unreliable and if that is how you get your ideas, why even bother?

  • 06.12.2011 12:04 PM PDT