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Subject: To all The idiots petitioning for multiplayer.

343 cant just snap their fingers and make multiplayer come alive, the game is scheduled for its launch already, exactly a 10 years after the release of halo CE. Designing multiplayer now will push the game back months or possibly years, tying into the halo 4 release and virtually killing the point of a 10 years later remake.

-Play something else
-Johnny

  • 06.12.2011 3:14 PM PDT

Halo without Bungie is like a cookie made without love.

If they put multiplayer it would kill halo even more. Halo so far is a zombie tho.

  • 06.12.2011 3:25 PM PDT


Posted by: woooooooo13
If they put multiplayer it would kill halo even more. Halo so far is a zombie tho.


A zombie?

  • 06.12.2011 3:31 PM PDT

If they create a multiplayer it would kill halo reach and possibly halo 4

  • 06.12.2011 3:31 PM PDT


Posted by: skull56546
If they create a multiplayer it would kill halo reach and possibly halo 4

I HIGHLY doubt that bro. Halo CE's multiplayer, in comparison to what is available on the market today, is terrible



[Edited on 06.12.2011 3:33 PM PDT]

  • 06.12.2011 3:33 PM PDT


Posted by: JohnyRL

Posted by: skull56546
If they create a multiplayer it would kill halo reach and possibly halo 4

I HIGHLY doubt that bro. Halo CE's multiplayer, in comparison to what is available on the market today, is terrible



CE multiplayer was the most balanced multiplayer of all the Halo games. Everyone started with a powerful easy to use pistol, so everyone stood a chance against everyone else, perfectly fair. Games nowadays don't seem to understand that making it so you start with weaker weapons, and have to fight to get better ones off the map, actually makes it somewhat unfair.

Why should someone get a killing spree automatically because he got to the sword first? He shouldn't. And if your fighting a team of vehicles, is it fair to not stand a chance simply because the other team occupies all the anti-vehicle weapons?

CE balanced everything absolutely perfectly. Modern developers could learn much from it. And it's pretty sad that they don't.

[Edited on 06.12.2011 3:57 PM PDT]

  • 06.12.2011 3:53 PM PDT
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Posted by: JohnyRL
343 cant just snap their fingers and make multiplayer come alive, the game is scheduled for its launch already, exactly a 10 years after the release of halo CE. Designing multiplayer now will push the game back months or possibly years, tying into the halo 4 release and virtually killing the point of a 10 years later remake.

-Play something else
-Johnny


1. If they are remaking a video game, dont half ass it and only do the Campaign. That would be like if (slash When) they remade Spider-Man and the movie ended halfway through.
2. The "10 years Anniversary" is just a marketing ploy as is the name Halo: CE Anniversary.
3. Are you afraid that Halo: CE online would make Halo 4 boring because the gameplay is so flawless should they be released around the same time?
4.If it took "years" to do, that would make it released after Halo 4.

  • 06.12.2011 3:53 PM PDT

PP start off, and the pistol was unbalanced compaired to other weaps, i disagree...

  • 06.12.2011 4:00 PM PDT

Thats where your wrong. Its a campaign remake, not a game remake, halo won game of the year mainly for its campaign, if it didnt have multiplayer it probably would have still won..

  • 06.12.2011 4:00 PM PDT

Posted by: JohnyRL
Posted by: skull56546
If they create a multiplayer it would kill halo reach and possibly halo 4

I HIGHLY doubt that bro. Halo CE's multiplayer, in comparison to what is available on the market today, is terrible

Many people who still play HPC today would disagree with that assertion, as would I from my own limited experiences in local play with both HCE and Reach.

Though, I suppose I couldn't assemble a good argument that it would for sure become popular; after all, popularity and quality are only moderately connected, with marketing usually doing most of the work.

But I guess it'll be hard to make either of those points, since we are of course "idiots" who think that a "terrible" game is fun.

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Though since you bring up the "imbalance" of the pistol, let's make it clear that this is where our side is coming from, so that you may assemble a coherent argument against our actual point: we fully understand that the pistol is up there in some absolute sense with the "power weapons." We think this is good, and believe that the entire idea of "power weapons" as tools that make it extremely easy to fight players without "power weapons" can easily be problematic for gameplay. If a starting weapon exist that is as effective as those weapons, albeit less specialized for certain purposes, then that is exactly what we want in our Halo, and only Halo 1 delivers in that way.

[Edited on 06.12.2011 4:08 PM PDT]

  • 06.12.2011 4:05 PM PDT

Halo without Bungie is like a cookie made without love.


Posted by: JohnyRL

Posted by: woooooooo13
If they put multiplayer it would kill halo even more. Halo so far is a zombie tho.


A zombie?

Halo won't just die as dead as it is.

  • 06.12.2011 4:07 PM PDT
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Lol

Balance =/= fun. Proof? CoD.

Also, CE wasn't balanced (Pistol = game over) and it's multi is riding off of a decade old mechanics that should be fixed.

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I'm not. Challenge me, if you like.

  • 06.12.2011 4:09 PM PDT

i dont care about halo 4. I just dont want to see terrable multiplayer being bashed

  • 06.12.2011 4:12 PM PDT


Posted by: strictly187
Lol

Balance =/= fun. Proof? CoD.

Also, CE wasn't balanced (Pistol = game over) and it's multi is riding off of a decade old mechanics that should be fixed.

inb4urmadcuzurbad

I'm not. Challenge me, if you like.


The pistol was perfectly balanced. Everyone started with it. It wasn't some stupid game where everyone thinks "Get power weapons, get power weapons, get power weapons", and those who lost the race to them couldn't do anything but suffer. The pistol allowed for everyone to have a way to still do good, even if they did lose the race to the sniper or rockets. That's a perfectly balanced game.

  • 06.12.2011 4:28 PM PDT

The fact is that the pistol was too good. One simply cannot have a weapon that suits all situations they encounter.

  • 06.12.2011 4:33 PM PDT


Posted by: JohnyRL
The fact is that the pistol was too good. One simply cannot have a weapon that suits all situations they encounter.


Why, because then you can't do good with your power weapons? If people were getting you with the pistol, just use the pistol yourself. Also, the Battle rifle from Halo 3 and 2 was pretty much the pistol also. They were still pretty balanced weren't they?

"One simply cannot have a weapon that suits all situations they encounter" Would you like to give me a good, reasonable argument as to why?

Sure, there isn't a gun that suits every situation in real life, but why should video games be realistic?

[Edited on 06.12.2011 4:45 PM PDT]

  • 06.12.2011 4:44 PM PDT

Because what is the point of the other weapons? Pistol close range awesome, pistol mid range awesome, pistol long range awesome. Hey lets call the Game Halo Combat Pistol and screw all other weaps since the pistol is superior in all cases. This is exactly why halo 3's battle rifle was screwed.

  • 06.12.2011 4:47 PM PDT

As good as the pistol was, rockets still beat it close range. Shotgun > pistol when it came to those surprise encounters from around the corner. Sniper was superior at long range as long as you weren't running around with it in the open.

I'm starting to wonder, have you ever even played the original multiplayer? Because there were various ways to counter it. The pistol wasn't the ultimate weapon vs. everything in every situation. But it was good enough to give everyone a fair chance, and to keep people from losing simply because the other team had all the power weapons.

  • 06.12.2011 4:56 PM PDT
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Why do you think your better than everyone?

  • 06.12.2011 4:59 PM PDT

You dont get it do you? Shotgun was a close range weapon. it didnt work at long range (BALANCED) Rockets good at mid and close rangem, not so much at long range BALANCED. Halo CE pistol kills close range long range and mid range. You just cant have a weapon like that in a multiplayer title...

  • 06.12.2011 5:00 PM PDT

What?
Posted by: DAJSK
Why do you think your better than everyone?

  • 06.12.2011 5:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: JohnyRL
What?
Posted by: DAJSK
Why do you think your better than everyone?
I don't know, it just seams like you think you are smatter than every one. Just let them make a petition for something that will never happen. Now that you called them idiots your starting stuff.

  • 06.12.2011 5:06 PM PDT

OP is a genie-us.

  • 06.12.2011 5:07 PM PDT

Sorry if it appeared that way. I believe you all are idiots in that regard. You all however are bound to be smarter than me in some aspects. :3

  • 06.12.2011 5:08 PM PDT
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No, I agree about the petition. Everything you said in your post. Just calling everybody who wants it an idiot bothers me.

  • 06.12.2011 5:09 PM PDT