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Subject: For all you "omg i need 2 upgrade my PC" noobs
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I came here to this forum originally to blast the idiots that think they will need to upgrade their PCs for Windows Vista.

Well, Guess what idiots, you don't have to. Believe it or not, you can run it on any decent modern system now.

I would suggest you take a look at the offical Microsoft guide to building PCs marketed with Vista on them:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsvista/evaluate/hardwa re/entpguid.mspx

Now I know its difficult for most of you idiotic kids to do any form of research and hearsay is the only knowledge you have, but get this:

If you have a DX9 capable card right now, you can run the fancy avalon graphics system. If you don't, THEN YOU CAN TURN IT OFF.

Gah, honestly, When I see these idiotic kids just being morons going ZOMFG I DONT HAVE MONEY 2 BUY 4GB ADDITIONAL RAN FOR WINDOWZ VISTA1!! This is an operating system for christs sake, not FEAR.

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  • 02.11.2006 7:08 PM PDT
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FEAR was great I went out and bought 1 gb or ram just so I could run it full everything and it was worth every penny great game.

  • 02.11.2006 7:28 PM PDT
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I know its really difficult for you, since you have such minimal intelligence, but if you bought it 6 months ago, you are sure as hell fine with Vista.

How about you go and take a look at the official Vista requirements set by MICROSOFT before you open your trap eh?

I'm not here to make friends. I want to educate you idiots (such as yourself) who think they will need to upgrade, when infact many people are ok.

Edit: According to what im trying to do, you people should love me, infact fellate me since I am trying to save you people money.


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  • 02.11.2006 9:03 PM PDT
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Well, like he said. Calling people here idiots isn't a particuarly good way of getting them to be receptive to anything you have to say - whether you want to befriend them or not.

  • 02.11.2006 9:05 PM PDT
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While that may be true, its just its so damn difficult to get these idiots just to stop their wild speculation and LOOK at the official list that Microsoft has so generously provided for people to see.

I see why America is considered so stupid, people don't even research before they go out and buy whatever. Its why companies like Best buy are so profitable.

  • 02.11.2006 9:07 PM PDT
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Well, though I'm not sure I really agree with your approach. I will agree with you in the sense that I'm not sure why everyone's getting worked up about their PC not being able to handle it... I just reviewed the req's and it didn't look steep at all.

  • 02.11.2006 9:11 PM PDT
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Exactly! I know that my methods aren't exactly the best, but it seems to be the only way to get most people to listen.


You are a bit different, you aren't what I would consider an "idiot" you have some knowledge, but you just didn't know. If you actually research what you do before you do something, you can then make a much more informed decision.

  • 02.11.2006 9:28 PM PDT
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How much is vista?

  • 02.11.2006 9:58 PM PDT
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I'm not sure if they've released solid prices yet, but I've seen XP pro go from anywhere to $100 - $300 (yes 300, I think I saw it at CompUSA or some place for that much).

Chances are that if you're smart and look around when it comes out you should end up paying around $150ish for it.

  • 02.11.2006 10:00 PM PDT
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Actually, they are planning on having several versions.

The "Stripped down" version will be actually only around $70, however it is stripped down and will only let you install so many things.


The "Ultimate" edition, which is the analouge to Corporate + Media center will cost roughly $270

There are several other editions in between.

  • 02.11.2006 10:14 PM PDT
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I like that idea. I think I'd have to pass on the $270 version, personally.

I'm hoping that my college's deal with Microsoft permits me to get a copy for free/reduced price when it comes out.

Oh and Runite, the thread(s) where people are flipping about the requirements for Vista, are they in this section? I haven't seen any here... I have however seen some in The Underground section.

I think people are confusing the enhanced desktop feature (WDDM I think it is) and the fact that it requires a FX and up video card. FX and comparable cards are cheap these days, so I'm still not sure what the big deal is.

  • 02.11.2006 10:21 PM PDT
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Reefer, I don't want to sound like a dick. But if the min req's of Vista is in the vein of 512mb ram, a GeForce 4 or 5 era video card, and a recent processor (probably within the last 4 years), and you may have to upgrade... how the hell did you play Halo PC to begin with?

  • 02.11.2006 10:23 PM PDT
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Well, that's something I can sympathize with.

  • 02.11.2006 10:33 PM PDT
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Its been in development for ages boy.

They have already had betas out where select people could test them.


This is where you hit yourself on the head and say "oh".

They already know the minimum reqs, they posted them shortly after longhorn was renamed to vista.

How about instead of doing this crap, go read what they need?

Oh and changing specs? Yeah, like the entire pre-built PC industry (dell, emachines etc) will completely retool their bottom line plan every few days and alayze all the costs of it every few monts?

Go take some business classes, you obviously don't know jack.

And for those that only "think" they need to upgrade, they can go read the official reqs and then they can then make their decision. None of this crap "LOL I GOT AN INTEL 3GHZ PROC AND 1GB OF RAM BUT I DONT HAVE ANY MONEY TO UPGRADE" crap. That stuff pisses me off.

Get the picture?

  • 02.11.2006 11:32 PM PDT
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You do realize that DirectX 10 is going to require new graphics cards to get the full benefits of Vista and the newer games. Many people are still using the older AGP, PCI, and the god-forbidden integrated graphics to play halo, which have been being phased out since PCI-Express came out.

You do realize Vista may require at least a single-core 64-bit processor to get the full Vista, even to just RUN the OS. Factor in that most Intel processors over a year old are more than likely not ^this^.

Summary: People have crappier computers for Halo unless they have newer games. Xbox owners did not need to buy an Xbox 180 to play Halo 2, so you might see why most people are bi7ching about Vista if you're smarter than you seem.



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  • 02.12.2006 1:10 AM PDT
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who said that we all live in America? i don't much appricate(sp?) being called an idiotic kid or noob. i have no intentions for upgrading for awhile because this is just another marketing ploy by Microsoft to get more people to buy thier stuff.sure not all of us are the smartest but theres no need to flame people who haven't yet proven they aren't that smart.i also don't like the fact that you think we are all in the group of "OFMG i need to upgrade but i got no money to upgrade" yeah it may be crap it may piss some people off but for the majority it probably doesn't do either.i think it suck that halo 2 is only going to be for windows vista but whats the bet that some computer wiz will find out a way to format it for XP or Microsoft will eventually bring it to XP. Don't assume everyone lives in America every country has its "stupid" people or "dumb" people both of which really means you can't speak but we use it differently as an insult but it make really no difference what so ever.so both of you don't flame each other just because you take offence at what the other says sure i've said what i dislike but i didn't insult anyone did i? so leave your dislikes to a min or less insulting its a sure way to either get black listed or banned.
thank you for reading this post and hope it may enlighten you on my view on things and other things.


What happened to all the nice people on here? used to be such a friendly place

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  • 02.12.2006 3:23 AM PDT
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What?

Full features? You say it like you would run vista at 16xAA with Softshadowing.

No, this is an OS were talking about here. Are you people just so thick to understand this? It may require? Go download a copy for yourself and see that it dosen't.

I know its difficult for you to read, but its been tested on 1.2ghz systems and lower.

As for the link, yeah you are right, what the hell:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsvista/evaluate/hardwa re/entpguid.mspx

Sorry about that. Wierd that it messed up.

Edit: Some of you people have difficulty grasping my aims here:

I'm trying to get you idiotic people to realize that most of you DON'T need to upgrade your hardware to run this OS.

You said that you will require hard ware upgrades to enjoy games: Ok think about this for a minute here. If the games work fine on WinXP, then why would you need more powerful hardware to run the same games on windows Vista? Nice thinking there.

As for the american thing, I apologise. There are a fair share of idiotic people about the world, and I wouldn't want to deny anyone's country of me acknowledging them. Its even more imperative for people Overseas in Europe and Aus. Europe has the lovely VAT tax in some places, and Aus has the lovely taxes that they toss in, which makes DFI boards near $300 AUD there.

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  • 02.12.2006 3:52 AM PDT
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i am not one of them people that say that about my computer but


for the dumbass who started this topic thing there are people out there who needs to upgrade there computers tho play halo.

  • 02.12.2006 6:31 AM PDT
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To all the people running around saying that you need to upgrade...go home! If your 9 and play halo on your daddies computer, but you also have doom or half life 2 or wait far cry, then...go home! If you are an old man who sits in his one room one window apartment playing games on his suped up super computer and you just realized that you have way to many games and -blam!- loaded onto that piece then erase them, buy vista...and go home! LOL

  • 02.12.2006 7:25 AM PDT
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Here's my two pence.

Runiteshark: stop being an absolute -blam!-tard of an obnoxious arrogant twat just because you can read specs that microsoft didn't write, but were written by a beta tester, microsoft have actually released very minimal information about Vista.


Let me explain why you may need to upgrade, hopefully in a more polite and accurate fashion than runiteshark attempted to.

In the past, all windows operating systems have used the onboard graphics for display, which means it doesnt have access to all the 3D processing power that all your games have access to in your graphics card. Vista changes this, it has access to your graphics card and so, can do everything your games can, from basic XP-Style display, to full AA + AF CS:source on your desktop. Now obviously, this will put more strain on your graphics card than XP does so no longer will you be able to run your pc to it's full potential with a very old graphics card. Chances are you'll only need something in the low end range (geforce 5 series), but preferably something along the lines of a geforce 6600, as that can use DX9. BUT, this is not a necessary upgrade, if your graphics card doesnt have the memory or speed to handle everything at once, Vista can roll-back its display to the way it did it with XP, so it may look slightly uglier, but it'll work. So if your pc is more than 4 years old, you may need a graphics upgrade.

Now, onto CPUs. Contrary to popular belief, a 64bit CPU will not be necessary, as vista will run in both 32 and 64 bit modes, with obviously the 64 bit mode being faster. This means that ifyou're running an early Pentium 4, or an Athlon XP, it will run, just not to its full potential, thought if you do have one of those, i heartily recommed you upgrade to an Athlon 64 processor, as they're easily affordable 64 bit processors, and they beat every intel equivalent into the ground.

RAM: 512mb is a must. 1gb is recommended, and anyting higher giving major performance boosts, even beyond 4gb as vista can now utilise large amounts of ram properly, unlike XP. I recommend having at least 1gb.

HD: anything above 80GB will do the job here, but i recommend having at least 120GB on a SATA connection, rather than the old IDE connection.

That's about it, basically, that was all to say: You probably don't have to upgrade, but vista will run a million times better if you do.

  • 02.12.2006 7:37 AM PDT
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"PC systems with GPUs that do not support WDDM will only be able to provide a Windows XP-comparable desktop graphics experience, with regards to features, stability, and performance."

You're talking about a system running the WDDM desktop, something that doesn't have to be run.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsvista/evaluate/hardwa re/vistarpc.mspx

  • 02.12.2006 7:49 AM PDT

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